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taintmachine
Profile Joined May 2010
United States431 Posts
October 31 2010 02:14 GMT
#321
i didn't say zero evidence. reading comprehension. i said hard evidence, as in a replay or a screenshot. idra very might well have bm'd them given his personality, but we don't know for sure and shouldn't get worked up over things that might have been said months ago.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 31 2010 02:44 GMT
#322
On October 31 2010 11:14 taintmachine wrote:
i didn't say zero evidence. reading comprehension. i said hard evidence, as in a replay or a screenshot. idra very might well have bm'd them given his personality, but we don't know for sure and shouldn't get worked up over things that might have been said months ago.

Pal, you probably don't notice or choose not to notice arrogant posts and downplaying of fellow players constantly displayed by Idra even on here, if you still want a hard evidence. There's so much evidence, that you are really behind, nobody, including Idra, is going to deny the fact that he BMs players.

The latest Idra BMs on here got him banned for his posts regarding Werra clan, I think. Also, he said that Loner is a second rate player. I wonder if he still thinks F91 is second rate, or rather, what he thinks of himself - is he any better than Loner's level (i.e. second rate)?
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
October 31 2010 03:01 GMT
#323
On October 31 2010 02:34 Chma wrote:
Show nested quote +

And your points is that because FBH has done unprofessional stuff when winning live in the past, it's OK to do it?

I'm not saying IdrA isn't/hasn't been bad mannered, but doing sh*t like this on live TV is so friggin un-classy, doesn't matter who he's insulting.

/Chma

Edit: It's funny how people praise Zenio for bm'ing IdrA, when alot of people "hate" IdrA for bm'ing. Failed logic right there my friends.. Unless you think "but mom, he started it" is a valid reason.


First of all, no one hates Idra. You give his influence too much credit. As for Zenio bm'ing Idra, it makes total sense. Someone we dislike gets dissed, and it makes us happy. As pointed out, the difference between Zenio and Idra is that Idra talks trash when he loses, trying to salvage his fragile ego, while Zenio does it when he wins.
kirkybaby
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)781 Posts
October 31 2010 03:11 GMT
#324
Wow. All this confirms that people on this forum are hypersensitive probably as a result of overzealous moderation.


Oh no! A disrespectful hand gesture! Heavens to Betsy! Where are the manners?!?
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Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-31 03:12:18
October 31 2010 03:11 GMT
#325
On October 31 2010 03:26 Incognoto wrote:
Zenio sucks. He can't say Ihdra is BM on Bnet and then pull a stunt like that in front of an audience. It's like saying "it's bad to hunt rabbits with a scoped sniper" and then grenade launching the poor critters instead.

I used to dislike Ihdra because of his flames (towards drewbie and silver :p) but actually I realise now it's not important.

I am now a fan of his and I cheer for him because he is a foreigner and I can actually tell him apart from the other contestants (and Boxer.. I can tell Boxer from the other contestants.. I guess he just owns like that).


Your analogy is so terrible. Zenio didn't actually say "it's bad to hunt rabbits," it was more akin to saying "you shot some of my rabbits so I'll shoot you." Aka he gave payback. If Idra wants to run his mouth then he should be ready to face the consequences.

And your last paragraph is also stupid to no end. So you're cheering for Idra because of the color of his skin and because the other contestants have black hair? I don't even know what to say. Stop being ignorant?
fishball232
Profile Joined May 2010
United States90 Posts
October 31 2010 03:42 GMT
#326
yay idra lost. this means more koreans into the final stages.
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 31 2010 03:57 GMT
#327
On October 31 2010 12:42 fishball232 wrote:
yay idra lost. this means more koreans into the final stages.


Welcome to the Korean RTS scene.
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koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
October 31 2010 04:30 GMT
#328
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago.
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
October 31 2010 04:57 GMT
#329
was that a fist pump?
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
October 31 2010 05:42 GMT
#330
People are highly overreacting to a simple hand gesture...
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
October 31 2010 06:08 GMT
#331
On October 31 2010 12:42 fishball232 wrote:
yay idra lost. this means more koreans into the final stages.


wtf?
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10340 Posts
October 31 2010 06:28 GMT
#332
At least he didn't call him "Grack."
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kyophan
Profile Joined January 2010
United States113 Posts
October 31 2010 09:22 GMT
#333
On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY. Beta was a long time ago, Idra is much more mature and we barely see idra rage. BM in real life is NOT acceptable compared to online. Especially when that bm was ages ago.


While he has lost a fan for....bm inappropriately with a ceremony? He has gained many more for it.

Idra much more mature now? Nah. Bm online behind a screen is more acceptabl than bm in real life?
MrPello
Profile Joined October 2009
Sweden187 Posts
October 31 2010 10:59 GMT
#334
Zenio is simply a duchebag. BM in non-official ladder games (or in closed beta lolwtf?) is one thing. BMing on TV and naming someone direct in a interview something else.

Zenio I hope you loose horrible from now on.
Comrade
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden102 Posts
October 31 2010 11:03 GMT
#335
On October 31 2010 12:11 kirkybaby wrote:
Wow. All this confirms that people on this forum are hypersensitive probably as a result of overzealous moderation.


Oh no! A disrespectful hand gesture! Heavens to Betsy! Where are the manners?!?


but was it needed? In beta? I mean sure IdrA is used to bm like crazy but... Z still butt hurt from beta? It just seems a little much too have a grudge about that for this long.
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Azalie
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand117 Posts
October 31 2010 11:56 GMT
#336
Idra needs to beat him and slap his face son
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
October 31 2010 14:06 GMT
#337
On October 31 2010 13:30 koolaid1990 wrote:
Zenio you just lost a FAN. I respected you, but that BM WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. SURE IDRA BMED LIKE CRAZY IN BETA, BUT HE HAS GROWN ALOT PROFESSIONALY.



Yet you see him getting banned for trash talking on forums.. what he said about the werra clan didn't sound professional at all..
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-31 14:40:17
October 31 2010 14:38 GMT
#338
in my eyes, Zenio GAINED a fan. I was already kinda a fan, but for someone to finally step up to idra's bullshit in a live setting, maybe it will humble the little nerd and make him realize when he talks shit to all these people on bnet, someday he might actually meet them in person and his 5'2 120lbs mouth wont be able to talk as much shit.

Idra deserved this, no one should be defending him.

Thats the thing that pisses me off most about Idra.. He is this big badass on Bnet, but in live settings he is the most timid, shy nerd you'll ever see in pro gaming. At least BM players before him like Elky or FBH would maintain their personality in live settings. That deserves more respect than just doing it online.
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Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
October 31 2010 16:10 GMT
#339
zenio gained a fan through sick play and awesome ceremony.
SIT DOWN IDRA!
ShineSun
Profile Joined April 2009
United States15 Posts
October 31 2010 16:27 GMT
#340
Idra kid, you deserve it.
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