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[Interview] GSL2 Ro16 Winner of Zenio vs IdrA - Page 15

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sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
October 30 2010 15:20 GMT
#281
On October 30 2010 23:19 writer22816 wrote:
i love how idra still can't win shit even though he switched to sc2 lol


Wait.. what?
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
_vladimir_
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia530 Posts
October 30 2010 15:28 GMT
#282
On October 30 2010 23:19 writer22816 wrote:
i love how idra still can't win shit even though he switched to sc2 lol


I'm the first one who hate Idra, and i love what Zenio done, hope we will see more dissing of Idra around, so he gets back what he deserves, but how can you say something like this lol..
So everyone who doesnt actualy win GSL is shit? By that kind of comment you are not discrespecting only Idra for who most of us don't care, but alot of other good players who were stoped at round 32/16/8 at GSL...
MC:" 2nd game i all in, he drone he drone, me win."
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 15:44:24
October 30 2010 15:43 GMT
#283
On October 30 2010 23:19 writer22816 wrote:
i love how idra still can't win shit even though he switched to sc2 lol



Oh he can win shit, just that those victories will for the most part be outside of korea.

Id say just by getting that far in the gsl he has done more in korea than entire Teamliquid
"Mudkip"
alonndo
Profile Joined August 2010
46 Posts
October 30 2010 16:11 GMT
#284
did anyone win in a big tournament in korea as foreigner=?=
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
October 30 2010 16:33 GMT
#285
On October 31 2010 01:11 alonndo wrote:
did anyone win in a big tournament in korea as foreigner=?=

not in recent years. idra woulda imo if koreans didnt cheese him out of the first gsl.
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
October 30 2010 16:41 GMT
#286
On October 31 2010 01:33 OneFierceZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 01:11 alonndo wrote:
did anyone win in a big tournament in korea as foreigner=?=

not in recent years. idra woulda imo if koreans didnt cheese him out of the first gsl.

Idras main weaknesses are his inability to adapt and lack of creative play.
Example: game 1 vs zenio. All he had to do was make a spire.
Idra won't change his play style and will always lose to a quality creative Korean eventually.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 30 2010 17:13 GMT
#287
On October 31 2010 01:33 OneFierceZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 01:11 alonndo wrote:
did anyone win in a big tournament in korea as foreigner=?=

not in recent years. idra woulda imo if koreans didnt cheese him out of the first gsl.


Of course if Idra loses it has to be cheese rofl... Did cheese make him not scout Lotzes ninja expansion?
RoMarX
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina189 Posts
October 30 2010 17:19 GMT
#288
On October 30 2010 23:08 Sanguinarius wrote:
Zenio BMing is just as bad as Idra - if not worse because it was done on TV.

Way to sink to a lower level.......


at least he BM like a man (more or less) and not like a retarded nerd behind a computer (like Idra)
Hellooo!!!!!!!
Chma
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden15 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 17:36:31
October 30 2010 17:34 GMT
#289
On October 30 2010 00:25 awu25 wrote:
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On October 30 2010 00:21 Karthane wrote:
On October 30 2010 00:15 Razyel wrote:
i bet that Zenio didnt came with strategy for sure more mind for involved here.

Um, what?...anyways, zenio responds to BM from
Beta with a physical gesture? That's not professional at all, so he has no right to speak about what idra has done.

what do you mean he has no right to speak about what Idra has done to HIM during beta
haven't you ever seen firebathero from BW
people have done insulting celebrations before, it's not like this is the first time for it to happen on live TV

And your points is that because FBH has done unprofessional stuff when winning live in the past, it's OK to do it?

I'm not saying IdrA isn't/hasn't been bad mannered, but doing sh*t like this on live TV is so friggin un-classy, doesn't matter who he's insulting.

/Chma

Edit: It's funny how people praise Zenio for bm'ing IdrA, when alot of people "hate" IdrA for bm'ing. Failed logic right there my friends.. Unless you think "but mom, he started it" is a valid reason.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
October 30 2010 17:34 GMT
#290
On October 31 2010 02:19 RoMarX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 23:08 Sanguinarius wrote:
Zenio BMing is just as bad as Idra - if not worse because it was done on TV.

Way to sink to a lower level.......


at least he BM like a man (more or less) and not like a retarded nerd behind a computer (like Idra)

I'll spit in your face on national TV and I'm pretty sure you'll change your mind about that.

It's worse than being rude months ago.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Easy772
Profile Joined May 2010
374 Posts
October 30 2010 17:48 GMT
#291
On October 30 2010 00:21 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 00:15 Razyel wrote:
i bet that Zenio didnt came with strategy for sure more mind for involved here.

Um, what?...anyways, zenio responds to BM from
Beta with a physical gesture? That's not professional at all, so he has no right to speak about what idra has done.


IdrA kind of deserved it

When I look at IdrA on camera after a loss he looks more angry at himself than anyone else. You can tell the game means a lot to him. Online games however is where IdrA becomes a tough guy all of a sudden and doesn't give a thought to being blunt and bad mannered. I bet that he is really just redirecting his anger towards himself back at the opponent, which is kind of an immature move. IdrA enjoys playing the villain, but underneath all of it he's just so passionate about the game and a somewhat sore loser at the same time. Just like a lot of people who are mature for their age, they still have streaks of childishness to remind you that they are indeed still kids.
"The best way to improve is to play one matchup on one map doing one strategy.. if you are good at one strategy you are a good player, if you are okay at many strategies you are an okay player at best" -Day[9] 181
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
October 30 2010 18:05 GMT
#292
What goes around comes around.

To compare Zenio BM the same as Idra is not fair. Idra is known to BM quite a bit and unless Zenio is lying about the BM on ladder(which koreans see Idra alot more than us), his gesture torwards Idra was justified. It is not like Zenio does it all the time....JUST ONCE. You can`t expect to see insults thrown around and people taking it up the butt and not do anything about it...would you?
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
October 30 2010 18:07 GMT
#293
ugh all-ining a player in his worst match up and then insulting him? really? this guy is just gonna get knocked out later anyway.

such a waste.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
RoMarX
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina189 Posts
October 30 2010 18:11 GMT
#294
On October 31 2010 02:34 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 02:19 RoMarX wrote:
On October 30 2010 23:08 Sanguinarius wrote:
Zenio BMing is just as bad as Idra - if not worse because it was done on TV.

Way to sink to a lower level.......


at least he BM like a man (more or less) and not like a retarded nerd behind a computer (like Idra)

I'll spit in your face on national TV and I'm pretty sure you'll change your mind about that.

It's worse than being rude months ago.


lol i wouldnt change my mind. I think that trash talkers cowards like idra deserve that kind of bm and worse, so i would like if he gets humillated in TV, because imo he totally deserves that. But if i were on zenios places i dont think i would bm just because i know that idra is just a pathetic guy who wouldnt deserve my attention.
Hellooo!!!!!!!
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
October 30 2010 18:17 GMT
#295
On October 31 2010 00:20 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 23:19 writer22816 wrote:
i love how idra still can't win shit even though he switched to sc2 lol


Wait.. what?


i think he is talking about in korea, sure idra is still the best foreigner at sc2 but unless he can win in korea he is not as good as he thinks he is when he bm people
USAMO
Profile Joined May 2010
United States12 Posts
October 30 2010 18:24 GMT
#296
Idra fails in BW and again in GSL. He's nothing in Korea.
I'm doing math. Please don't disturb.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 18:27:45
October 30 2010 18:26 GMT
#297
Zenio sucks. He can't say Ihdra is BM on Bnet and then pull a stunt like that in front of an audience. It's like saying "it's bad to hunt rabbits with a scoped sniper" and then grenade launching the poor critters instead.

I used to dislike Ihdra because of his flames (towards drewbie and silver :p) but actually I realise now it's not important.

I am now a fan of his and I cheer for him because he is a foreigner and I can actually tell him apart from the other contestants (and Boxer.. I can tell Boxer from the other contestants.. I guess he just owns like that).
maru lover forever
USAMO
Profile Joined May 2010
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 18:29:19
October 30 2010 18:28 GMT
#298
Most people thought Idra will do the best. However Boxer and Nada are both in round 8 and one will make round 4. Idra is only in round 16.
I'm doing math. Please don't disturb.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 30 2010 18:30 GMT
#299
Yeah that's true. Way to go them.

Still Ihdra vs Boxer or Nada... who do you think wins? (I am a Boxer fan and I heard Nada is cool too)
maru lover forever
MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
October 30 2010 18:35 GMT
#300
Oh come on guys, he just moved his arm, its not a big deal at all.

You ever watched sports like basketball, football, hockey (especially), even soccer?

You'll see stuff 1000x more BM than an arm movement!
Chill: "Please let us know when you will be streaming yourself eating a hat so I can put it on the calendar. Thanks."
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