EPTHaven't we learned to love FBH's antics by now? Or is this just an SC2 thing o.O
[Interview] GSL2 Ro16 Winner of Zenio vs IdrA - Page 7
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ndralcasid
United States524 Posts
Haven't we learned to love FBH's antics by now? Or is this just an SC2 thing o.O | ||
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thehitman
1105 Posts
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Mintastic
United States166 Posts
On October 30 2010 03:50 Milkis wrote: yeah and the gosugamer translation is blatantly wrong -_- anyway this is one reason i'm sensitive to accuracy of translations. 이기고 나서 세리모니가 이슈가 되고 있다. ▲ 평소에 배틀넷에서 그렉 필즈 선수가 매너도 없고 해서 까불지 말라라는 뜻으로 한 번 해봤다. 클로즈베타때 나도 당해봐서 하게 됐다. 세리모니는 세리모니일 뿐이다. 잘 봐주셨으면 좋겠다. ▲ Because Greg Fields does not have any manners on battle.net, so I did the ceremony to tell him to don't mess with people. I've been victimized to his bm during the Closed Beta, which motivated me to do this. In the end, however, a ceremony is only a ceremony, and I hope you all watched it well. I think I like your translation the best. Gonna root for Zenio more now that I know he has some personality. Although his celebration needs more work, maybe he should talk to FBH for some pointers. | ||
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Choirdrunk
Canada131 Posts
Two theories for why an otherwise intelligent person would fail to correct his mistakes in the face of so much evidence. 1. Aspberger's Syndrome. I don't know IdrA on a personal level at all. I have seen interviews. He seems too high functioning to have Aspberger's in his recent interviews but it's possible and would explain many of the characteristics his frenemies seem to agree upon. 2. Insecurity without resolution. I've both lived a part of this and seen it amongst some of the kids at university and grad school. Not uncommon amongst kids at the top schools. You start life different. More introverted than most kids. Maybe physically smaller. Maybe significantly better at certain subjects, like math, than kids your age group. You're seen as "weird" or "nerdy." You learn to wall yourself off from society, become exceedingly cautious when interacting with new people, begin assuming people will be mean or hurtful. I was that kid. Maybe he was too? This would help explain why the only people we know to be IdrA's friends, rather than just his fans, are yes-men like Artosis who he would never feel unsafe around (watch the Artosis-IdrA interview before the first IEM if you question whether this is the relationship). It would also explain why Rekrul mentioned IdrA never had any romantic interactions prior to a 2008 or 2009 visit to Korea. (I'm not saying this last part to be hurtful, I'm saying it because, if true, such a fact would have a remarkable impact on a young man's view of himself. Not getting laid or having a girlfriend makes a lot of young men feel like they are failures ... which some compensate for by exuding arrogance and finding undue validation in things like ... well, Starcraft. So a loss isn't simply a loss. It's another indication regarding one's lack of value). And, yes, IdrA is skinny and a nerd but he's nowhere near unattractive enough to have that be the reason for his not having a girlfriend ever. He definitely falls into the 95% of men that "have a chance if..." Problem is, only way to solve the problem, is to 1. recognize its a problem; and then 2. treat it like you would any other problem (i.e., rationally assess the issue, examine potential solutions, process the superior solutions. And you treat your failures just as dispassionately. If you get a calc problem wrong, you figure out what you did wrong. If you try to get it on with a cute brunette that rejects you, you figure out what you did wrong. Hit the reset button, play again. Crying "(girls) imba" or "s/he's dumb" is as valid a strategy in Starcraft as it is in your social life ... which means, not at all). Which, because it involves initially painful introspection, is harder than it sounds. So, basically, in order for IdrA to become a well rounded individual capable of appropriate introspection and, subsequently, the ability to become one of the best pro-gamers, it sounds like we need to get him a girlfriend or we need to convince him to engage in the process of effective socializing. Who's up for flying to Korea and whipping this kid into shape? | ||
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MrBGJM
Australia124 Posts
so much disrespect. To get a "gg" from idra before he leaves a game in which he lost...and then do that. This guy needs a smack across the face imo. and i am not going to talk about that hair of his =\ | ||
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Slakkoo
Sweden1119 Posts
Zenio should just be a man and say "Like I care if he BM's me, I beat him". I lost my respect for Zenio | ||
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bosu001
Korea (South)3 Posts
On October 30 2010 03:50 Milkis wrote: yeah and the gosugamer translation is blatantly wrong -_- anyway this is one reason i'm sensitive to accuracy of translations. 이기고 나서 세리모니가 이슈가 되고 있다. ▲ 평소에 배틀넷에서 그렉 필즈 선수가 매너도 없고 해서 까불지 말라라는 뜻으로 한 번 해봤다. 클로즈베타때 나도 당해봐서 하게 됐다. 세리모니는 세리모니일 뿐이다. 잘 봐주셨으면 좋겠다. ▲ Because Greg Fields does not have any manners on battle.net, so I did the ceremony to tell him to don't mess with people. I've been victimized to his bm during the Closed Beta, which motivated me to do this. In the end, however, a ceremony is only a ceremony, and I hope you all watched it well. This is the best translation!! i'm korean. i cant speak english but i can read it this TR is perpect! anyway, i am sorry for Zenio's celemony many korean blamed his act. and i'm sorry, IdrA we really love foreign player! and love IdrA though IdrA has BM, but we like his playing cheer up IdrA i look foward to see you GSL3season | ||
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vitruvia
Canada235 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On October 30 2010 04:09 leveller wrote: In BW, where IdrA played T, he was always complaining about toss OP rofl... I know. And you'd wonder why he never chooses the OP race. Oh right, he has "self-respect"  Even TLO has it now | ||
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leecH
Germany385 Posts
On October 30 2010 04:28 Slakkoo wrote: Answering BM with BM is BM. Zenio should just be a man and say "Like I care if he BM's me, I beat him". I lost my respect for Zenio basicly you say idra can do what he want but if someone bm him you loose respect? correct me if i am wrong please. but your just rooting for idra and that is ok...... i see zenio showing spontaneous emotions. and would he did it if he did not get bm by someone on the ladder? i dont think so my friend paycheck baby. zenio doing bm like the big boys do it. at least thats what i see. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
I think Zenio won the first Korean beta tournament ever, as well. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
Also if you think Zenio's was the worst BM ever you should seriously watch Firebathehero is was 100 times worse then Zenio's lol. | ||
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omg.deus
Korea (South)150 Posts
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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Meeru
18 Posts
On October 30 2010 03:58 JQL wrote: What zenio did is not smart at all (at least dont do it in public), in my opinion, he made Koreans look bad. He made SC2 and E-sports look like trash. Lol youtube firebathero and tell me if you have the same opinion | ||
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antelope591
Canada820 Posts
On October 30 2010 04:27 MrBGJM wrote: worst BM ive seen ever in esports. so much disrespect. To get a "gg" from idra before he leaves a game in which he lost...and then do that. This guy needs a smack across the face imo. and i am not going to talk about that hair of his =\ Seriously? Ever hear of FBH? This was nowhere near close to the worst BM ever in esports lol | ||
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daheadhunter
United States4 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On October 30 2010 05:00 daheadhunter wrote: Idra has been extremely well mannered since retail. bahaahaha<3 Both Zenio and IdrA are bosses. I love IdrA for telling it how it is and not concealing his rage, and I love Zenio for doing shit like that/standing up to him. Just enjoy the spectacle, folks. This is SC2 not SamuraiCraft. | ||
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Tercotta
Canada402 Posts
And that is nothing compared to real sport. Take any sport where they jump around when they score. My background is competitive fencing here in Canada. A sport where screaming to influence the referee is encouraged. Now I'm not advocating that a player shouts with joy every time they pick off a scouting SCV but let them act up somewhat. It's natural. Every single sport does it. Is Zenio disrespectful? Hell no. He doesn't like Idra and he did a single gesture in celebration. Hockey players throw down and fight. This is nothing. Calm down. Starcraft needs to take the manner stick out of its ass and enjoy the conquering of your enemies. | ||
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Spoh
United States57 Posts
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