EPTKeSPA-Gretech negotiations fail; Lawsuits next - Page 3
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caelym
United States6429 Posts
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Atticus.axl
United States456 Posts
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nihoh
Australia978 Posts
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
Here's to hoping whichever way the ruling falls, that it falls quickly so leagues can continue. On October 28 2010 10:03 nihoh wrote: They should hire a korean video game company to clone SC1. Like DOTA and HON. It won't be illegal if they jsut copy the mechanics. Atrox failed hard. | ||
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FireBlast!
United Kingdom5251 Posts
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Prophecy3
Canada223 Posts
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LastDance
New Zealand510 Posts
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aztrorisk
United States896 Posts
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On October 28 2010 09:31 mrdx wrote: No, don't overdramatize it. If KeSPA/MBCGame/OGN lose, they will pay Blizzard a fine and accept Blizzard/Gretech's terms. The Starleagues get hurt but will most likely be carried on. Blizzard may be tough and greedy but they are not retarded. Why would they? eSports is barely profitable as it is and KeSPA assumes all of the financial risk associated with the Starleagues. Do you think they'll seriously continue to invest in it if Blizzard gets to call all the shots? What makes you think they would bend over for Blizzard when they've continously refused to do throughout this entire process? Given their pride, I can almost guarantee that they'll dissolve before allowing themselves to be pushed around by one small foreign company. | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On October 28 2010 10:23 LegendaryZ wrote: Why would they? eSports is barely profitable as it is and KeSPA assumes all of the financial risk associated with the Starleagues. Do you think they'll seriously continue to invest in it if Blizzard gets to call all the shots? What makes you think they would bend over for Blizzard when they've continously refused to do throughout this entire process? Given their pride, I can almost guarantee that they'll dissolve before allowing them to be pushed around by one small company. Completely agreed. If there's one thing we can be certain about, if Kespa loses and loses badly, SCBW is dead. I don't mean "dead" as in it's popularity will fall a bit; if Kespa disappears, then the entire organization crumbles, and it will take far too long to put everything back together again. Proleague will not start in time to keep people's interests. Progamers will be restless waiting for a solution and probably will move. and I honestly think Blizzard honestly doesn't give a crap, because it means that all those SCBW people will transition to a new game... dum dum... SC2? I wish Blizzard would just leave everything THE WAY IT WAS... I know there's IP rights issues, but why wasn't there before? Why NOW? You've already let Gretech/Gom take SC2... why BOTHER fighting about SCBW??????? I want SCBW to live =( edit: On October 28 2010 09:43 caelym wrote: Totally support Blizzard and Gretech on this. IP rights are IP rights. Kespa and broadcasting station are lucky to have milked the BW cash cow for over 10 years. ... are you serious? because CLEARLY the Koreans had nothing to do with the continued popularity of SC1... right? you're talking about the REASON why SC1 thrived over a DECADE and paved the way for SC2. SC2 would have just been a 'good' release with WC3 dynamics. Maybe you don't remember that Blizzard debuted SC2 in KOREA. | ||
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cocoa_sg
Singapore296 Posts
On October 28 2010 09:30 strength wrote: Good! Blizzard kill kespa and create sc2 pro leagues thanks Please stop widening the chasm between us BW and SC2 fans. Just stop it, and grow up! You are ridiculous. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On October 28 2010 06:54 snowdrift wrote: This. Such bad PR for BlizzardTargeting MBCGame -- the predators are trying to separate the weakest member of the herd from its fellows. It won't work. KeSPA Fighting! On October 28 2010 09:43 caelym wrote: Totally support Blizzard and Gretech on this. IP rights are IP rights. Kespa and broadcasting station are lucky to have milked the BW cash cow for over 10 years. BW was never a cash cow lol. It's basically just advertising and little to no profit plus advertising. Blizzard should just be happy to have their game being played on TV to a large audience. It's great, free advertising for them and they haven't done shit with BW in such a long time. This is about control and reducing competition for the GSL, not IP rights. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On October 28 2010 08:29 Zona wrote: That might not be the only factor...I have a feeling it's more CJ/Ongamenet/Gretech wanting to take over BW as well as SC2. If Blizzard is fully cooperating with Gretech, there is no way CJ will let Ongamenet's business be damaged. (While the rest of the sponsors, especially those with consumer-focused businesses like the phone companies, will balk at only having OGN as the sole broadcaster of pro BW.) This is the only post in the entire thread that knows what its talking about. Everyone else is just blindly taking sides without even knowing WHAT KeSPA is. | ||
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Rikstah
Australia126 Posts
On October 28 2010 10:29 Wings wrote: Completely agreed. If there's one thing we can be certain about, if Kespa loses and loses badly, SCBW is dead. I don't mean "dead" as in it's popularity will fall a bit; if Kespa disappears, then the entire organization crumbles, and it will take far too long to put everything back together again. Proleague will not start in time to keep people's interests. Progamers will be restless waiting for a solution and probably will move. and I honestly think Blizzard honestly doesn't give a crap, because it means that all those SCBW people will transition to a new game... dum dum... SC2? I wish Blizzard would just leave everything THE WAY IT WAS... I know there's IP rights issues, but why wasn't there before? Why NOW? You've already let Gretech/Gom take SC2... why BOTHER fighting about SCBW??????? I want SCBW to live =( edit: ... are you serious? because CLEARLY the Koreans had nothing to do with the continued popularity of SC1... right? you're talking about the REASON why SC1 thrived over a DECADE and paved the way for SC2. SC2 would have just been a 'good' release with WC3 dynamics. Maybe you don't remember that Blizzard debuted SC2 in KOREA. I agree. People are of the opinion that Kespa has just been milking a cash cow, I think it would be more accurate to say that Kespa has created the beastly 10 year cash cow. The game wouldn't have thrived for over a decade without them. You can argue IP rights one way or the other (and lets face it guys - this really isn't clear cut, theres points back and forth, either side trying to say its in black and white is just being emotional or terribly misinformed) but you can't ignore the fact that Kespa and its organisation is what kept BW interesting for so long. Also I feel that Caelym you are misinformed on the matter because there wasn't any profit to be gained from pro league. Kespa doesn't make any profits at all, they are just the sponsors for the leagues. The money they originally had tried to charge the broadcasting stations wasn't even close to covering the costs of running 12 teams on full time salaries. - Yes one could argue that advertising = profit but thats not how it works when theres no direct correlation between the pro league sponsorship and people buying your products. | ||
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St. Fu
United States75 Posts
I really don't want this to be the end of BW. Hopefully the lawsuit will move too slow and speed up the negotiations. | ||
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thehitman
1105 Posts
If all parties want the best for e-sports and players, than they must agree terms and all sides must make compromises. I expected Brood War to die out slowly, but this is just absurd, I'd like proleague and individual leagues to continue for at least a year. | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On October 28 2010 10:53 Scarecrow wrote: This. Such bad PR for Blizzard BW was never a cash cow lol. It's basically just advertising and little to no profit plus advertising. Blizzard should just be happy to have their game being played on TV to a large audience. It's great, free advertising for them and they haven't done shit with BW in such a long time. This is about control and reducing competition for the GSL, not IP rights. And we all know advertising is a tiny, negligible part of business. That's why Microsoft is spending 1 billion dollars (not an exaggeration) on an ad campaign for Kinect. That's why companies pay huge amounts of money to get 30 seconds during the Super Bowl. | ||
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ionlyplayPROtoss
Canada573 Posts
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