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On October 28 2010 10:09 Prophecy3 wrote:
Where's the IP rights of the Pros exactly? It's THEIR skill that allowed Blizzard to even talk about eSports. When all is said and done, it will probably be the players and the fans who lose out most. As usual.
According to Blizzard, progamers have no right. That's the point. That's why they think Kespa is selling their IP rights to OGN/MBC and not a license to have the players to pay the players.
That's why Blizzard has to lose. Otherwise players are automatically under contract of the devs of the game they play and they can't sell themselves to a sponsor for salary/expense covering.
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i found blizzard to be really disingenuous. they claim they are acting in the best interest of BW fans, which is a lie.
already, we know the foreign pro gaming SC:BW scene is dead. even in SK, many famous SC:BW pro gamers have moved on. Blizzcon even dropped BW as a competition. and blizz claim that they are acting in the best interest of the BW fans? really? are they honestly going to pump more money into BW tournaments?
on the other hand, i know MBC will act in best interest of the fans, because they already managed to get a sponsor who will pay the prize pool.
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On October 28 2010 06:54 snowdrift wrote:
Targeting MBCGame -- the predators are trying to separate the weakest member of the herd from its fellows. It won't work.
KeSPA Fighting!
Exactly, Blizzard is dodging the big Korean corporations, and targets a small TV channel instead.
Then can't even defeat Infinity Ward... 
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United States238 Posts
On October 28 2010 11:42 endy wrote:Exactly, Blizzard is dodging the big Korean corporations, and targets a small TV channel instead. Then can't even defeat Infinity Ward...
MBC isn't exactly "small". It's one of the three major public broadcasting station along with KBS and SBS.
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I'm sad it's coming to this
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Does the fact that KeSPA not wanting to compromise (not arguing right or wrong here) mean that they think they will get something better from the lawsuit than the deals current proposed by Blizzard and Gretech?
If not, I'm not quite sure what KeSPA is doing...
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On October 28 2010 11:43 Selith wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 11:42 endy wrote:Exactly, Blizzard is dodging the big Korean corporations, and targets a small TV channel instead. Then can't even defeat Infinity Ward... MBC isn't exactly "small". It's one of the three major public broadcasting station along with KBS and SBS.
I meant small compared to Activision or the big Korean corporations who compose Kespa.
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I think it is 'first or die' for Kespa. So much so it doesn't even matter what the odds are that they lose. They can't compromise because there's so little profit in esports. Even when they are as popular as Starcraft.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On October 28 2010 09:31 mrdx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 09:07 LegendaryZ wrote:On October 28 2010 08:48 tournamentnow wrote:
I like where this is heading, Kespa old bunch of corrupted bureaucrats will need to deal with their own legal system. Of course the korean legal system may itself be corrupted because you've got connections throughout the all organisations. There's so much money on the line.. You DO realize that if Blizzard wins this, it's very possible that the pro teams may disband and the BW leagues may disappear, right? No, don't overdramatize it. If KeSPA/MBCGame/OGN lose, they will pay Blizzard a fine and accept Blizzard/Gretech's terms. The Starleagues get hurt but will most likely be carried on. Blizzard may be tough and greedy but they are not retarded.
i.e their terms of proleague not taking up prime time spots on TV?
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everyone is wrong here they are both greedy but Kespa has to understand the game is still owned by blizzard right...?
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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So the shit has hit the fan...
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
On October 28 2010 07:24 Kralic wrote:This seems interesting but it really isn't, they will go to court then there will be a undisclosed settlement. BW will continue and you will not know what was given or paid up to keep it going. BW goes on everyone is happy. 
This is easily the best case scenario with great chance of happening.
On October 28 2010 12:54 crazeman wrote:
So the shit has hit the fan...
Some will run and some will stand...
my question is whos gonna stand?MBC?
The court is most likely to favor the fans over the companies(politics,trust me on this one).MBC will win or there will be a successful negotiation a day before doomsday.
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It seems to me it doesn't matter how "active" MBCGame was, or how reasonable KESPA or MBCG were. In the end, it's blizzard's game, and if the buyer doesn't like the price, they don't buy. KESPA sold rights to broadcast Starcraft, which obviously is not theirs to sell.
If i walk into a music store and I don't like the fact that the CD I want is $25, I can't just grab it and walk out of the store with it. It doesn't work that way people. It doesn't make it any better that KESPA got away with it for years.
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Aw crap. I had a tiny bit of hope it would work out this time, but I guess not. This is bad D:
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Why is it so hard to negotiate -_-
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
On October 28 2010 13:04 SubtleArt wrote:
Why is it so hard to negotiate -_-
both sides are stupid....in the end its we who suffer.
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On October 28 2010 12:56 Loophole wrote:
It seems to me it doesn't matter how "active" MBCGame was, or how reasonable KESPA or MBCG were. In the end, it's blizzard's game, and if the buyer doesn't like the price, they don't buy. KESPA sold rights to broadcast Starcraft, which obviously is not theirs to sell.
If i walk into a music store and I don't like the fact that the CD I want is $25, I can't just grab it and walk out of the store with it. It doesn't work that way people. It doesn't make it any better that KESPA got away with it for years.
It's more like Blizzard inventing the piano, the Koreans playing the piano and making a CD out of it, and then Blizzard says, "you can't do that, I invented the piano."
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On October 28 2010 11:32 Xtar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 10:09 Prophecy3 wrote:
Where's the IP rights of the Pros exactly? It's THEIR skill that allowed Blizzard to even talk about eSports. When all is said and done, it will probably be the players and the fans who lose out most. As usual. According to Blizzard, progamers have no right. That's the point. That's why they think Kespa is selling their IP rights to OGN/MBC and not a license to have the players to pay the players. That's why Blizzard has to lose. Otherwise players are automatically under contract of the devs of the game they play and they can't sell themselves to a sponsor for salary/expense covering.
This is a fairly biased opinion and surely you can even see that?
a post in the other direction with out any argument for the other side would read, and quite rightly so
"That's why Blizzard has to win. Otherwise companies will begin to abuse the IP's of companys left right and centre and copyright laws will cease to exist in any useful manner"
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
now I have to feel guilty about watching the GSL....BW I love you but I love SC2 too...please can we have a 3way.
seriously WORK TOGETHER!!!!!
what if gretech buys off MBC?Is that possible?
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