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[Interview] IdrA after MLG DC

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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 03:17:02
October 26 2010 03:14 GMT
#1
Official interview with IdrA from MLG after his win at Pro Circuit Washington DC. IdrA talks about Korea, being back in the US, his opponents, the patch, and of course HuK's mothership rush.

...

MLG: Select noted that that he didn't have a lot of good TvZ practice heading into D.C. Should we look forward to some practice games between you two in the future?

Idra: He mentioned that he's considering coming to Korea for a GSL sometime in the future. If that happens I'd be happy to practice with him. His TvP series showed just how strong he can be when he has a solid strategy ironed out. Unfortunately, for now I can't play with him due to cross-server connection problems.

...

MLG: One more question for you. HuK had a show-stopping moment in the Losers Bracket Finals when he went for a Mothership rush. Does Huk's bravado earn a thumbs up or thumbs down from you?

Idra: It was absolutely idiotic. This is first and foremost a competition. No one can say with a straight face that he felt that Mothership rush was his best chance to win the game. Fan service is great, without the fans we wouldn't exist, but the fans are there to watch SC2, not WWE. It cheapens the tournament to do something like that.

...


Read the full interview here.
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ReighT
Profile Joined July 2010
46 Posts
October 26 2010 03:19 GMT
#2
Gosh, IdrA is such a serious player. While I think that if everyone 4 gated and 6 pooled in a tournament, it wouldn't be fun, but every once in a while I think it actually kind of makes the tourny a bit more interesting. But props to IdrA anyways, he's a good player.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 26 2010 03:29 GMT
#3
I actually agree with IdrA 100%, HuK honestly threw away the tournament trying the mothership build.
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F00LY
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States125 Posts
October 26 2010 03:35 GMT
#4
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 26 2010 03:35 GMT
#5
Good interview his answer on balance was spot on as right now it will seem z> t as bad terrans disappear so honest ^^.

Wish he could have gone to dallace + semi finals for GSL though.
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 26 2010 04:02 GMT
#6
Everyone knows Huk felt he had no chance vs Select's TvP so he did that to throw the game/please the fans. Doesn't matter if he denies, it we know it's true.
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
October 26 2010 04:03 GMT
#7
I would love to see Huk defeat Idra with a mothership rush and then ask his opinion of it.
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
October 26 2010 04:07 GMT
#8
On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.


No he wouldn't.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
October 26 2010 04:11 GMT
#9
I love IdrA, moreso than I love HuK, but I do slightly disagree with what he said about the Mothership Rush. I think it's pretty safe to say that HuK didn't have much of a chance vs SeleCT, and that he had ZERO chance against IdrA. So I actually liked that he decided to just be wacky in the end and give it a shot.
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FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
October 26 2010 04:20 GMT
#10
On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.


Uh, no. That game was surely not lost due to a misclick.
LiGhtoftheSwaRm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States39 Posts
October 26 2010 04:36 GMT
#11
On October 26 2010 13:11 HollowLord wrote:
I think it's pretty safe to say that HuK didn't have much of a chance vs SeleCT, and that he had ZERO chance against IdrA. So I actually liked that he decided to just be wacky in the end and give it a shot.


I believe that's the point IdrA was trying to make here. IdrA believed HuK was ridiculous to concede in such a way; whether it was for the fans or not. I personally agree w/ him..
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
October 26 2010 04:37 GMT
#12
On October 26 2010 13:07 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.


No he wouldn't.

yes he would've. hes huk
tarian
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
October 26 2010 04:38 GMT
#13
On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.

I agree that it was possible for him to win that game without the minor mistakes he made.
-KarmA
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States353 Posts
October 26 2010 04:42 GMT
#14
On October 26 2010 13:11 HollowLord wrote:
I love IdrA, moreso than I love HuK, but I do slightly disagree with what he said about the Mothership Rush. I think it's pretty safe to say that HuK didn't have much of a chance vs SeleCT, and that he had ZERO chance against IdrA. So I actually liked that he decided to just be wacky in the end and give it a shot.


Thats right. If youre gonna go out might as well go out big right?
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
October 26 2010 04:52 GMT
#15
On October 26 2010 13:42 MOARpylons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 13:11 HollowLord wrote:
I love IdrA, moreso than I love HuK, but I do slightly disagree with what he said about the Mothership Rush. I think it's pretty safe to say that HuK didn't have much of a chance vs SeleCT, and that he had ZERO chance against IdrA. So I actually liked that he decided to just be wacky in the end and give it a shot.


Thats right. If youre gonna go out might as well go out big right?


If he can't admit to this himself (which he can't, if you listen to State of the Game), then it's a pretty worthless sentiment.
Lumin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States217 Posts
October 26 2010 05:08 GMT
#16
Huk had zero chance against Select. Select was the far superior player, giving up and going Mothership...*shrugs* Seems like an easy cop-out for me.
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
October 26 2010 05:18 GMT
#17
Nice, Grack's been going to the gym. Next thing we know, IdrA will be like Incontrol and be a beast in both starcraft and real life
tarian
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
October 26 2010 05:22 GMT
#18
MLG: So, the Mothership is viable against bio, although obviously not the safest choice.

HuK: Well, yeah, it’s not like I haven’t ever Mothership rushed before, and had I not lost my natural and actually used it intelligently I could’ve won. I’ve done it before against good Terrans. It’s definitely possible to do. I don’t think when Boxer was Nuke rushing people it was the "smartest" or "safest" build, but he did it anyway and won. I’ve just got to work on that second part [laughs]. Maybe not Mothership rushing every time, but I definitely want to be able to threaten my enemy with every unit/strategy.

HuK did not give up at all.


Source: http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/316371/Mothership-Down-MLG-Interviews-HuK-after-His-Showstopping-Performance-in-D-C
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
October 26 2010 05:36 GMT
#19
On October 26 2010 13:36 LiGhtoftheSwaRm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 13:11 HollowLord wrote:
I think it's pretty safe to say that HuK didn't have much of a chance vs SeleCT, and that he had ZERO chance against IdrA. So I actually liked that he decided to just be wacky in the end and give it a shot.


I believe that's the point IdrA was trying to make here. IdrA believed HuK was ridiculous to concede in such a way; whether it was for the fans or not. I personally agree w/ him..


Totally agree with that.
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Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
October 26 2010 05:39 GMT
#20
Hahaha the part about the mothership rush is classic.
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jdreamer
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia296 Posts
October 26 2010 05:43 GMT
#21
IdrA, no doubt is good but his attitude... meh.....

GO HUKKK!
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Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
October 26 2010 05:58 GMT
#22
I doubt he will make it to semi-finals. There are a lot of players who can eliminate him earlier. I'd say Check, FD, Nada, Boxer, the other boxer, Inca, Ensnare, Rainbow, Genius have a really good chance of taking him on in the process. Semi-final is only 4 players and there are a lot of candidates, so expect Idra @ Dallas.
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
October 26 2010 06:01 GMT
#23
On October 26 2010 14:58 Reasonable wrote:
I doubt he will make it to semi-finals. There are a lot of players who can eliminate him earlier. I'd say Check, FD, Nada, Boxer, the other boxer, Inca, Ensnare, Rainbow, Genius have a really good chance of taking him on in the process. Semi-final is only 4 players and there are a lot of candidates, so expect Idra @ Dallas.


It's too bad you didn't see the bracket list and notice that Check, FD, other boxer, Inca, Rainbow and Genius are all in the other half of the bracket. And NaDa and Boxer would have to play against each other first before meeting IdrA.
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 26 2010 06:26 GMT
#24
On October 26 2010 12:19 ReighT wrote:
Gosh, IdrA is such a serious player. While I think that if everyone 4 gated and 6 pooled in a tournament, it wouldn't be fun, but every once in a while I think it actually kind of makes the tourny a bit more interesting. But props to IdrA anyways, he's a good player.


IdrA is saying 6pooling and 4gating are dumb along the lines of mothership rushing. He is saying people should play standard or with solid builds. For clarification purposes 4 initial warp gates and 6 pool is considered all-in for the most part.
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MagnusHyperion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States288 Posts
October 26 2010 06:28 GMT
#25
On October 26 2010 14:58 Reasonable wrote:
I doubt he will make it to semi-finals. There are a lot of players who can eliminate him earlier. I'd say Check, FD, Nada, Boxer, the other boxer, Inca, Ensnare, Rainbow, Genius have a really good chance of taking him on in the process. Semi-final is only 4 players and there are a lot of candidates, so expect Idra @ Dallas.


are you insane?
Have you actually been watching ANY of Idra's play?
I've seen all his matches in the GSL so far and let me put it this way. He is making Koreans looks like Foreigners. His play is OUSTANDING and he has been varying his strategies significantly. If you honestly think Idra isn't on the level of Inca/Ensnare/Genius/Check then you need to go back to watching BW games until you understand RTS better. Also, "the other boxer", are you insane? That guy is practically a joke! Beyond that, need I remind you that Idra and SlayerSBoxeR have played games before and that Idra has absolutely ravaged him!?

Let me sum up my response in the following manner: I disrespectfully disagree with your assessment that Idra is weaker than other players in the tournament given that he has handily demolished every player that has stood in his way by an average margin of 150% supply and a 2 base edge. Watching any of his VODs within the last 3 months will show his mechanical strength on par with FELLOW SC1 pro-gamers (don't forget he was a Terran BW player on CJ Entus) and watching VODs from MLG and his Ro64/32 GSL games shows he is expanding out to incorporating different strategies in tournament settings. I predict Idra will probably make it to the Ro4 in his current form, but will end up taking a respectable 4th place behind Fruit Dealer, ITR/Hopetorture, and Genius.
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enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
October 26 2010 06:32 GMT
#26
been an idra fan since before [media] was created <3
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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
October 26 2010 07:32 GMT
#27
Watch RO32 Idra vs OgsGon + Show Spoiler +
Idra demolished him. It wasn't even close. Taking out the no.1 player on arguably the no. 1 team in SC2 at the moment with hardly any effort...... I'd say he has a fighting chance to take it all.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
October 26 2010 07:42 GMT
#28
On October 26 2010 16:32 johanngrunt wrote:
Watch RO32 Idra vs OgsGon + Show Spoiler +
Idra demolished him. It wasn't even close. Taking out the no.1 player on arguably the no. 1 team in SC2 at the moment with hardly any effort...... I'd say he has a fighting chance to take it all.

wtf where did you hear that gon was #1 on ogs?
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Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
October 26 2010 07:51 GMT
#29
i can't imagine how much rage a buff idra will have now.
i like cheese
Vasili
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia125 Posts
October 26 2010 07:53 GMT
#30
If people played standard all the time then where do new builds come from? Seriously thats retarded logic. Respect to HuK for whatever his reasons were behind mothership rushing. Ppl like HuK become the inventors of builds for which standard players copy.
FOURPLAYuk
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom29 Posts
October 26 2010 09:02 GMT
#31
I like huk but I agree with idra that going mothership was quite silly.
As a competitive player you should do everything in your power to win, spending so many resources on teching up to a mothership was stupid.
When he did get it out he let it slide ahead and get sniped, if he was seriously doing that build theres no way he would let it get lost so easily.

Secondly Idra has really won me over as a player ever since watching him play in the beta, I love players who take the game seriously and practice hard, I dont think he was in this interview but I wish he wasnt as rude as he can be, I think being polite and sportsmanlike is an important aspect of being a professional gamer.
Zakka
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands762 Posts
October 26 2010 09:03 GMT
#32
I enjoy watching Huk lose more than watching IdrA win. Who is he to say "what the fans whant to see". I watch for entertainment >:/

HUK FIGHTING!
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 26 2010 09:40 GMT
#33
yeah I agree with Idra. Why throw away your chance for 2nd place and another shot at first and do some silly strat that basically cannot win.

and Idra isn't saying that huk was wrong for not playing standard. He criticized huk for doing a build to please the crowd rather than try to win. Huk basically knew that he was throwing the game away, which is retarded at the 2nd-3rd place match of one of the biggest US tournaments.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 26 2010 11:07 GMT
#34
I agree with Idra, you shouldn't throw away chances just to try and make the game epic because thats not how epic is made.
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Gantzie
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia245 Posts
October 26 2010 11:22 GMT
#35
On October 26 2010 14:22 tarian wrote:
Show nested quote +
MLG: So, the Mothership is viable against bio, although obviously not the safest choice.

HuK: Well, yeah, it’s not like I haven’t ever Mothership rushed before, and had I not lost my natural and actually used it intelligently I could’ve won. I’ve done it before against good Terrans. It’s definitely possible to do. I don’t think when Boxer was Nuke rushing people it was the "smartest" or "safest" build, but he did it anyway and won. I’ve just got to work on that second part [laughs]. Maybe not Mothership rushing every time, but I definitely want to be able to threaten my enemy with every unit/strategy.

HuK did not give up at all.


Source: http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/316371/Mothership-Down-MLG-Interviews-HuK-after-His-Showstopping-Performance-in-D-C


rofl i cant believe he compares his play with the one and only boxers play. and no Gon is not number 1 in oGs , oGsTop or oGsMc is.
Dunked
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
October 26 2010 11:30 GMT
#36
after reading the second question.... i simply know what was comming!
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
October 26 2010 11:45 GMT
#37
--- Nuked ---
tchan
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia121 Posts
October 26 2010 12:43 GMT
#38
Deep down we all know Idra loves Huk despite how cold his responses were.
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
October 26 2010 13:14 GMT
#39
This interview just reaffirms how much I dislike idra, what a wankstain. I love how he BMs his opponents if he loses, AND if he wins. Apologize for playing that race! Huk's matches are 1000x times more interesting to watch. God bless your macro style, idra, but you are boring to watch.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 26 2010 13:43 GMT
#40
On October 26 2010 22:14 lowercase wrote:
This interview just reaffirms how much I dislike idra, what a wankstain. I love how he BMs his opponents if he loses, AND if he wins. Apologize for playing that race! Huk's matches are 1000x times more interesting to watch. God bless your macro style, idra, but you are boring to watch.

I'm sure that with all teh fans who enjoy watching him play and the money he makes he cares about you liking huk's games more than his.
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Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
October 26 2010 14:31 GMT
#41
I do tend to agree with IdrA when he refers to HuK's play, throwing your chance to win just to please fans is idiotic to say the least. In regards to the rest of his comments, he shows all the aspects of a player who has played profesionally in Korea.
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Cragfire
Profile Joined April 2010
United States34 Posts
October 26 2010 15:39 GMT
#42
On October 26 2010 13:20 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.


Uh, no. That game was surely not lost due to a misclick.


Maybe he accidentally mothership
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 16:00 GMT
#43
On October 26 2010 13:03 phant wrote:
I would love to see Huk defeat Idra with a mothership rush and then ask his opinion of it.


you're very good at making motherships
its a useful talent toi have
brutality
Profile Joined August 2010
United States167 Posts
October 26 2010 19:03 GMT
#44
On October 26 2010 13:11 HollowLord wrote:
I love IdrA, moreso than I love HuK, but I do slightly disagree with what he said about the Mothership Rush. I think it's pretty safe to say that HuK didn't have much of a chance vs SeleCT, and that he had ZERO chance against IdrA. So I actually liked that he decided to just be wacky in the end and give it a shot.


bigt brawl, i know hurts bringing up that name again, but huk vs select BO5. Huk comes back and dominates without using any funky strat. just straight up solid play. especially the last game on kulas
Red.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Spain228 Posts
October 26 2010 19:15 GMT
#45
On October 27 2010 01:00 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 13:03 phant wrote:
I would love to see Huk defeat Idra with a mothership rush and then ask his opinion of it.


you're very good at making motherships
its a useful talent toi have


that picture cant just be more awesome
"Truth is cold and tough; lies are warm and always give you an excuse"
neoenigma
Profile Joined October 2010
United States243 Posts
October 26 2010 19:50 GMT
#46
Lots of respect for Idra. He's living his dream. Moving to Korea to play a video game professionally had to be a crazy life decision... but I'm sure it's paying off. Gets to hang out with friends and win money playing Starcraft.

His attitude on this tournament stems from his competitive nature. He doesn't actually play Starcraft because he enjoys video games. He competes in Starcraft because he likes to win. He doesn't even like custom maps. I suppose this is why he responded to Huk's mothership the way he did. You wouldn't see a football team or a baseball team doing something silly because they know they are going to lose. They play hard until the very end... because that's the professional thing to do. If you WIN... that's when you do something silly. Like a dance in the endzone or spelling out your name with supply depots.

Good luck in GSL2 Idra. You are every bit as good as those koreans and you can definitely win.
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
October 26 2010 20:38 GMT
#47
i guess that competative mindset of those top tier players won't be all that healthy for the communities behind the scene, honestly, isnt esport built on the fact of pleasing the fans?
what quote?
ThE_ShiZ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States143 Posts
October 26 2010 20:41 GMT
#48
This interview just reaffirms how much I dislike idra, what a wankstain. I love how he BMs his opponents if he loses, AND if he wins. Apologize for playing that race! Huk's matches are 1000x times more interesting to watch. God bless your macro style, idra, but you are boring to watch.


Skill-based macro games are much more interesting than luck-of-the-draw surprise strats. I'll take drawn-out macro over gimpy BS anyday. Idra wins, simple as that. He ROFLSTOMPED Huk at DC easily, and Huk is the Raleigh Champion, so that goes to show you the difference.

Besides, BW was heavily macro based and has been for the past few years, I wouldn't call it boring at all, even though the strategies are MUCH less diverse. Every game was FE into muta/lurk,bioball,corsair/dt/reaver/dragoon (depending on map). The maps have gotten much larger to compliment this.
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stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
October 26 2010 20:46 GMT
#49
idiot or not, everyone will remember Huk and his mothership rush in that tourney.

Eternal glory
BenSC
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway13 Posts
October 26 2010 21:14 GMT
#50
Maybe Gregory Fields will become the new bonjwa?
There is no stupidity only conscious ignorance.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 21:34:15
October 26 2010 21:31 GMT
#51
On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he would of had a very small chance of winning that game.


Fixed it for you

On a serious note, I really liked the interview. IdrA really knows the game well. I have a lot of respect for him, when he's not being overly badmannered
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 26 2010 21:36 GMT
#52

On October 26 2010 13:11 HollowLord wrote:
I love IdrA, moreso than I love HuK, but I do slightly disagree with what he said about the Mothership Rush. I think it's pretty safe to say that HuK didn't have much of a chance vs SeleCT, and that he had ZERO chance against IdrA. So I actually liked that he decided to just be wacky in the end and give it a shot.


Nah, if HuK doesn't make mistakes and plays solid and standard, HuK is the hard one to beat. Unfortunatly he hasn't been at his best in tournaments lately, so everyone's assuming he's not a good player
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 22:06:40
October 26 2010 22:06 GMT
#53
On October 27 2010 06:14 BenSC wrote:
Maybe Grack Pieldsu will become the new bonjwa?

fixed.

but I don't think "bonjwa" will be coined for another few years. The game is being patched so quickly and often that a dominating player might just be because he caught onto the change faster, or it suited his playstyle, while everyone struggles to catch up. I think bonjwas would be defined in a time when everyone is pretty equal... and then.. someone rises out of smoke and grabs a thunderbolt from the skies and proclaims himself God.

That's what bonjwa means to me, lol
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Patton1942
Profile Joined August 2010
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 23:18:50
October 26 2010 23:11 GMT
#54
I think its fair to say that play like HuKs appeal to the less hardcore, serious crowd. The more casual players. While IdrA's hardcore dedication, and devotion appeals to the more serious players. The type of players that practice, instead of play. Who have notes for each game they play, each map they practice on, each racial lineup and about their opponent. stuff like that. Hardcore SCII folks. That, of course, is just my opinion and not a verifiable fact.

As a much more casual player, I enjoy the showman that is HuK shenanigans. I think out of the box thinking is good for a young, ever changing and dynamic sport like SCII.
If I saw a MLB closer do something silly that cost my team the league championship and a shot at the world series? I would be upset. But then, I take baseball more seriously than I do SCII.
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Razgreez
Profile Joined October 2010
United States24 Posts
October 26 2010 23:21 GMT
#55
HuK used ambient noise in a convention hall as part of the metagame

That's some slick out-of-the-box thinking imo
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19208 Posts
October 27 2010 02:31 GMT
#56
Hahaha the part about the mothership rush is classic.

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0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
October 27 2010 02:33 GMT
#57
Even though Idra still talks against cheese among other things like he used to, the answers to his interviews seem a lot more mature.
Feels like a year ago he would have said "ya qxc basically abused ravens, can't do much against an imba strat like that" but instead he commented on how impressive the build actually was, and that he needed to have gone roach to stop it.
Thumbs up.
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Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 27 2010 02:56 GMT
#58
Damn Idra's a dick I love it haha
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MrHeckOne
Profile Joined October 2010
Costa Rica23 Posts
October 27 2010 06:03 GMT
#59
Interesting responses from IdrA. I would recommend it to be read in full.
Phiggot03
Profile Joined December 2009
Vietnam132 Posts
October 27 2010 07:04 GMT
#60
Anyone who thinks Idra's play is "boring" is probably some silver BGH newb.
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
October 27 2010 09:37 GMT
#61
On October 26 2010 12:19 ReighT wrote:
Gosh, IdrA is such a serious player. While I think that if everyone 4 gated and 6 pooled in a tournament, it wouldn't be fun, but every once in a while I think it actually kind of makes the tourny a bit more interesting. But props to IdrA anyways, he's a good player.

Man your right, all he does is win. No fun at all.
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cangiz
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada286 Posts
October 27 2010 15:38 GMT
#62
Idra could not be more right. I honestly always thought Idra had a bad attitude, but the more I'm watching him play and the more interviews I read from he, I find it very hard to disagree with what he says. Huk threw away that game, and while the mothership is very cool, its not worth throwing games away and especially not when there is money on the line.

As far as I'm concerned, I would rather watch Idra dominate players with pure skill, then seeing some gay cheese from HuK that he cant even win with. Good play will always get you far and lately Idra is looking invincible.

+ Show Spoiler +
With Real Boxer and Fruitdealer out of the tourney, I think Idra's chance of winning went up by a long shot. He is a very smart guy and he will not lose to Fake Boxer the way that fruitdealer did after studying those games. And for the people making fun of fake boxer, the guy can play. The games against babywerra were painful to watch, but I think he is more comfortable in a tournament environment, and taking out the previous GSL winner in swift fashion will definently help.
Dubai
CheeseGrater
Profile Joined August 2010
United States290 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 19:42:36
October 27 2010 19:42 GMT
#63
On October 28 2010 00:38 cangiz wrote:
Idra could not be more right. I honestly always thought Idra had a bad attitude, but the more I'm watching him play and the more interviews I read from he, I find it very hard to disagree with what he says. Huk threw away that game, and while the mothership is very cool, its not worth throwing games away and especially not when there is money on the line.

As far as I'm concerned, I would rather watch Idra dominate players with pure skill, then seeing some gay cheese from HuK that he cant even win with. Good play will always get you far and lately Idra is looking invincible.

+ Show Spoiler +
With Real Boxer and Fruitdealer out of the tourney, I think Idra's chance of winning went up by a long shot. He is a very smart guy and he will not lose to Fake Boxer the way that fruitdealer did after studying those games. And for the people making fun of fake boxer, the guy can play. The games against babywerra were painful to watch, but I think he is more comfortable in a tournament environment, and taking out the previous GSL winner in swift fashion will definently help.


+ Show Spoiler +
Real boxer isn't out of the tourney
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 22:06:17
October 27 2010 22:02 GMT
#64
On October 26 2010 14:22 tarian wrote:
Show nested quote +
MLG: So, the Mothership is viable against bio, although obviously not the safest choice.

HuK: Well, yeah, it’s not like I haven’t ever Mothership rushed before, and had I not lost my natural and actually used it intelligently I could’ve won. I’ve done it before against good Terrans. It’s definitely possible to do. I don’t think when Boxer was Nuke rushing people it was the "smartest" or "safest" build, but he did it anyway and won. I’ve just got to work on that second part [laughs]. Maybe not Mothership rushing every time, but I definitely want to be able to threaten my enemy with every unit/strategy.

HuK did not give up at all.


Source: http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/316371/Mothership-Down-MLG-Interviews-HuK-after-His-Showstopping-Performance-in-D-C

Ye, clearly intelligent play against what select was doing.. Let me put this in lamen terms. He Teched to a unit on a map with wide open spaces while fast expanding against a 2 rax expand build into 3 rax. Now even blizzard claimed that terran > toss in the early game. What selects doing is not a harass and i can't believe huk would even try to classify it into that category. At any period in the game a bio force that has not been weakened is going to fuck you sideways to next tuesday if you dont have the proper Tech/units to handle it. after Expanding and then deciding to fast tech off what 2-3 gateways against a terran doing this strategy is just stupid and no player at his level would even consider this anything but a crowd pleaser, And he has the balls to turn around say that it was part of his strategy? Now i know huk is a smart player and he does not believe what he says. I really enjoyed watching huk until after this interview, but lying to us just seems to me like he takes me for a common idiot. If this had been on a different map where he had a strategy to deffend vs early bio aggression while he teched to mothership i would have said, wow thats pretty genius. but we didn't see that here.
I'll continue watching huk in excitement for more plays like this(as long as he has a solid plan to deal with aggression like i mentioned) . However i would much appreciate it if he does not treat his fans like a bunch of idiots when he says that this was part of his strategy.

:best of luck in the gsl Huk
.Carnage
Profile Joined August 2010
United States99 Posts
October 28 2010 03:14 GMT
#65
On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.

This may be correct but the truth is he didn't. So this just makes his build even more stupid the fact that it boiled down to 1 misclick.
He's just not the fastest zergling in the control group. -DayJ
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
October 28 2010 04:23 GMT
#66
On October 28 2010 12:14 .Carnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 12:35 F00LY wrote:
Except for the fact that, had HuK not misclicked, he very well may have won that game.

This may be correct but the truth is he didn't. So this just makes his build even more stupid the fact that it boiled down to 1 misclick.


It was a big misclick. It's like trying to Storm right on the ramp of your natural only to found out that you stormed your mineral lines.

Ergo, HTs suck?
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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
October 28 2010 05:59 GMT
#67
I'm a big fan of spectating sc2 now that I don't really have time to play anymore and I just have to say I disagree with all the Huk hate and IdrA love. Huk made two huge mistakes in the mothership game, he didn't scout select busting the rocks and he missed vortex bad, minus those mistakes and he wins that game. IdrA is a super solid player, probably the most consistent Zerg player atm, at least against T players for sure, we need to see him against some top P's and Z's to see how he fares, but he is boring to watch imo. He does the same builds and has the same reactions all the time like a robot (with the exception of that awesome hydra/spine push on steppes). He's a really good example of how to play Zerg atm, but he's not gonna stay a top level player for long. He's easy to figure out. I actually want him to do well and am glad he's representing foreigners and the US, but his attitude toward the game and predictable play are going to be his downfalls.
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SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 28 2010 09:59 GMT
#68
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 28 2010 07:02 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 14:22 tarian wrote:
MLG: So, the Mothership is viable against bio, although obviously not the safest choice.

HuK: Well, yeah, it’s not like I haven’t ever Mothership rushed before, and had I not lost my natural and actually used it intelligently I could’ve won. I’ve done it before against good Terrans. It’s definitely possible to do. I don’t think when Boxer was Nuke rushing people it was the "smartest" or "safest" build, but he did it anyway and won. I’ve just got to work on that second part [laughs]. Maybe not Mothership rushing every time, but I definitely want to be able to threaten my enemy with every unit/strategy.

HuK did not give up at all.


Source: http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/316371/Mothership-Down-MLG-Interviews-HuK-after-His-Showstopping-Performance-in-D-C

Ye, clearly intelligent play against what select was doing.. Let me put this in lamen terms. He Teched to a unit on a map with wide open spaces while fast expanding against a 2 rax expand build into 3 rax. Now even blizzard claimed that terran > toss in the early game. What selects doing is not a harass and i can't believe huk would even try to classify it into that category. At any period in the game a bio force that has not been weakened is going to fuck you sideways to next tuesday if you dont have the proper Tech/units to handle it. after Expanding and then deciding to fast tech off what 2-3 gateways against a terran doing this strategy is just stupid and no player at his level would even consider this anything but a crowd pleaser, And he has the balls to turn around say that it was part of his strategy? Now i know huk is a smart player and he does not believe what he says. I really enjoyed watching huk until after this interview, but lying to us just seems to me like he takes me for a common idiot. If this had been on a different map where he had a strategy to deffend vs early bio aggression while he teched to mothership i would have said, wow thats pretty genius. but we didn't see that here.
I'll continue watching huk in excitement for more plays like this(as long as he has a solid plan to deal with aggression like i mentioned) . However i would much appreciate it if he does not treat his fans like a bunch of idiots when he says that this was part of his strategy.

:best of luck in the gsl Huk


You aren't a fan of HuK if you write a large paragraph of hate speech like that. You don't have to worry about "how he treats his fans."
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aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
October 31 2010 03:17 GMT
#69
that mothership rush was worth losing the game if it pleased the fans
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giant123
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2 Posts
November 02 2010 00:05 GMT
#70
On October 26 2010 13:03 phant wrote:
I would love to see Huk defeat Idra with a mothership rush and then ask his opinion of it.

this is also my opinion. i think huk is a great player, if he managed to disrupt Idra's macro machine. he would have a decent chance, and motherships would defiantly be a very fan oriented way to win.
KPSM
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada3 Posts
November 02 2010 21:35 GMT
#71
Huk is better than Idra and if you mix it up you might catch someone off guard. But if you don't like it then you can keep doing your "standard builds" and grind out your games
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