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Mike Morhaime's letter to the community - Page 5

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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
October 07 2010 12:43 GMT
#81
idk why so many people are mad

it was a nice letter from a nice guy

and I had no idea they were adding a semi-pro league, that's awesome
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 07 2010 12:45 GMT
#82
On October 07 2010 21:36 Tef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 20:37 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On October 07 2010 20:23 PlaGuE_R wrote:
wow, im speechless at the stupidity of some of the posters on this thread....

btw, I'm glad that MM voices the fact that Blizz doesnt want bw to die

you are wrong it has nothing to do with stupidity but with naivety. From your part.

If you have followed last months events, obviously...

Blizzard doesn't care about bw or no bw. If they can make money on pro bw, they will probably be happy to do so. If they can't they will try to make it disappear. Period.


I doubt they will be happy if the BW scene dies. Nobody will be happy about it except the occasional hater. But for most SC2 players the BW scenes existance wont affect their situation at all. Blizzard is a company that wants to make a profit from their products, if they can make a profit by promoting GSL but not the BW scene, then they will do the former. If they can make a profit from both, then they will probably do so too. However, making a profit from the BW scene for Blizzard, in terms of license to arrange tournaments, is impossible due to dissagreements between the parties (Blizzard/Kespa) over that particular subject.


But the 'profit' should be the free promotion of their game. If they actually want to make pure profit from running tournaments it will never work. They never even mentioned BW's IP rights back in 2004/05 when the Korean scene was at it's peak and BW managed to reach 4.5 million copies sold in Korea, they clearly knew it was a benefit to them. When your game is shown on TV all day, has 100,000 people turn up to an event, and the main gamers are known all over the country it's stupidly shortsighted to think: how can i make more money directly from this? Other companies would pay MILLIONS to have this kind of promotion/advertisement.
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
October 07 2010 12:46 GMT
#83
I kinda liked the letter... Also I seriously doubt Blizzard wants to kill BW. I dont even think they want money from BW, they do probably want some kind of control of BW tho.

But I do think they want SC2 to live more than BW, and the whole issue have become so infected that its looking more and more like one or the other. I consider both sides at fault in this, Kespa should just have opened the door to SC2 from the beginning rather that trying to shut it out turning this into a war and Blizzard should have given up some of that precious control to Kespa if it meant both game flourishing. Now that it is a war i fear it will end up with one of them R.I.P.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
October 07 2010 12:49 GMT
#84
On October 07 2010 21:43 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
idk why so many people are mad

it was a nice letter from a nice guy

and I had no idea they were adding a semi-pro league, that's awesome

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158742

It just seems like damage control after a fight with the cultural minister of Korea.
Hi!
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
October 07 2010 12:51 GMT
#85
"I’d also like to mention that we are actively encouraging the creation of amateur StarCraft II tournaments as well, and we look forward to supporting more community tournaments at that level. "
aha, like delaying HDH2 until GSL preseason 3 is over
interesting way of supporte
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
SeF
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil34 Posts
October 07 2010 12:54 GMT
#86
Very nice post! It's good to see that Blizzard really listen players and always consider doing what people want.

But, nothing about a LAN support or any kind of integration between differrent SC2 license's region / acoounts.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
October 07 2010 13:05 GMT
#87
On October 07 2010 17:30 Sprouter wrote:
Show nested quote +
Korea is the only region where World of Warcraft players can play StarCraft II for free!
holy fuck blizzard really wants korea to play sc2

More like they want korea to play WoW , because nobody plays WoW in korea luls
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 07 2010 13:08 GMT
#88
So he basically said he can't confirm anything but they're aware of the issues? Got it. Lol.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Exclamator
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Korea (North)27 Posts
October 07 2010 13:09 GMT
#89
and we’re committed to providing new features,


Yes, their negative chatrooms feature is pretty awesome.

I haven't experienced this personally, but isn't there some sort of limit on how many custom maps a person can have or make? I'd like details on this.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 07 2010 13:09 GMT
#90
On October 07 2010 21:51 Art_of_Kill wrote:
"I’d also like to mention that we are actively encouraging the creation of amateur StarCraft II tournaments as well, and we look forward to supporting more community tournaments at that level. "
aha, like delaying HDH2 until GSL preseason 3 is over
interesting way of supporte


Yeah i think this is funny too. They support the creation of tournaments but along with Bnet 2 just put loads of obstacles in the way of actually running it. eSports is running in spite of Blizzard/Bnet 2 rather thank thanks to it.
Terrorcore
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada132 Posts
October 07 2010 13:10 GMT
#91
On October 07 2010 22:09 Exclamator wrote:
Show nested quote +
and we’re committed to providing new features,


Yes, their negative chatrooms feature is pretty awesome.

I haven't experienced this personally, but isn't there some sort of limit on how many custom maps a person can have or make? I'd like details on this.


10 (I believe?).

I think it was 5 before but they recently up'd it to 10. I think.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
October 07 2010 13:16 GMT
#92
On October 07 2010 17:40 Ravloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 17:30 Sprouter wrote:
Korea is the only region where World of Warcraft players can play StarCraft II for free!
holy fuck blizzard really wants korea to play sc2


I think it's the other way around.


What does this mean, the other way around???!? I

Korea wants blizzard to play sc2?
Blizzard wants sc2 to play korea??
Sc2 wants blizzard to play korea???
or even: Korea wants to play sc2 in a blizzard??

I've tried like every permutation and none of them make any sense. Care to fill me in on what you're going for here? It would make me feel better.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
aru
Profile Joined April 2010
183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 13:18:20
October 07 2010 13:16 GMT
#93
On October 07 2010 21:46 DND_Enkil wrote:
I kinda liked the letter... Also I seriously doubt Blizzard wants to kill BW. I dont even think they want money from BW, they do probably want some kind of control of BW tho.

But I do think they want SC2 to live more than BW, and the whole issue have become so infected that its looking more and more like one or the other. I consider both sides at fault in this, Kespa should just have opened the door to SC2 from the beginning rather that trying to shut it out turning this into a war and Blizzard should have given up some of that precious control to Kespa if it meant both game flourishing. Now that it is a war i fear it will end up with one of them R.I.P.


They don't _want_ to kill BW, but if the choice is between letting Kespa use it or killing it, they'd rather kill it.

SC2's integration into Battle.net 2.0 and new EULA was designed so that Kespa couldn't use SC2 even if they wanted to. I think it'd be more accurate to say that Blizzard wanted Kespa out of the picture for SC2 than Kespa not willing to run with it; they were willing for WC3 before it failed due to scandals.
r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 13:17:44
October 07 2010 13:17 GMT
#94
I really would appreciate Blizzard not forgetting that old game of theirs that has 10 years of professional gamingm is perfectly balanced, has more than 100 pros and awesome maps and I hope they at least keep making tournaments and giving as much money as they are giving to that new game of theirs that has horrible balance and amateurs cheesing their way to semi-finals of championships that has horrendous maps.

Apart from it, thanks for chat channels.
Born to fast expand
Tef
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden443 Posts
October 07 2010 13:20 GMT
#95
On October 07 2010 21:45 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 21:36 Tef wrote:
On October 07 2010 20:37 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On October 07 2010 20:23 PlaGuE_R wrote:
wow, im speechless at the stupidity of some of the posters on this thread....

btw, I'm glad that MM voices the fact that Blizz doesnt want bw to die

you are wrong it has nothing to do with stupidity but with naivety. From your part.

If you have followed last months events, obviously...

Blizzard doesn't care about bw or no bw. If they can make money on pro bw, they will probably be happy to do so. If they can't they will try to make it disappear. Period.


I doubt they will be happy if the BW scene dies. Nobody will be happy about it except the occasional hater. But for most SC2 players the BW scenes existance wont affect their situation at all. Blizzard is a company that wants to make a profit from their products, if they can make a profit by promoting GSL but not the BW scene, then they will do the former. If they can make a profit from both, then they will probably do so too. However, making a profit from the BW scene for Blizzard, in terms of license to arrange tournaments, is impossible due to dissagreements between the parties (Blizzard/Kespa) over that particular subject.


But the 'profit' should be the free promotion of their game. If they actually want to make pure profit from running tournaments it will never work. They never even mentioned BW's IP rights back in 2004/05 when the Korean scene was at it's peak and BW managed to reach 4.5 million copies sold in Korea, they clearly knew it was a benefit to them. When your game is shown on TV all day, has 100,000 people turn up to an event, and the main gamers are known all over the country it's stupidly shortsighted to think: how can i make more money directly from this? Other companies would pay MILLIONS to have this kind of promotion/advertisement.


It's a valid point that Blizzard has made money on BW sales in Korea due to its popularity. But if that kind of promotion is in conflict with their intention to be the owner and issuer of tournament license they have to enforce what they see as their rights to their own IP. Another fact is that BW has already peaked and its life cycle is almost over as a retail game that is directly profitable for Blizzard. The only reason Blizzard have to ensure the future prosperity of the BW scene is good will. And that is why we now have this letter.
Dont fuck up, dont fuck yourself
Zamiel
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States211 Posts
October 07 2010 13:21 GMT
#96
/flame on

I don't get why there are people in this thread saying its a "nice" post, unless they just don't follow the SC2 scene, in which case it may be a "nice" post for them because it summarizes everything upcoming that the fans already know about. For the rest of us, however...

Morhaime states, "I hope I’ve addressed some of the questions", but he literally states nothing new in the post. The closest question he comes to answering is "Is Blizzard deliberately influencing Gretech to be assholes with negotiating?", and he of course can't reveal any negotiation details anyway so he gives a vague statement that he "remains optimistic".

Nonetheless, interesting read, thanks Waxangel.
"Mech is at the store buying groceries and you attack him at home. You burn his house down. And then he comes home and puts out the fire, and then you burn down the grocery store so he can't buy more groceries."
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
October 07 2010 13:27 GMT
#97
Gimmee Lan, Mike Morhaime.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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RinconH
Profile Joined April 2010
United States512 Posts
October 07 2010 13:30 GMT
#98
E-Sports makes very little money compared to Blizzard's bottom line and will probably continue to do so for SC2's duration.

I'm confused why people see them as trying to dominate their IP.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
October 07 2010 13:32 GMT
#99
We recognize many of you are interested to continue watching StarCraft I matches on TV, and as long as there is interest, we would like to see that continue as well.


lol
POGGERS
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 13:37:13
October 07 2010 13:33 GMT
#100
On October 07 2010 22:16 LaughingTulkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2010 17:40 Ravloo wrote:
On October 07 2010 17:30 Sprouter wrote:
Korea is the only region where World of Warcraft players can play StarCraft II for free!
holy fuck blizzard really wants korea to play sc2


I think it's the other way around.


What does this mean, the other way around???!? I

Korea wants blizzard to play sc2?
Blizzard wants sc2 to play korea??
Sc2 wants blizzard to play korea???
or even: Korea wants to play sc2 in a blizzard??

I've tried like every permutation and none of them make any sense. Care to fill me in on what you're going for here? It would make me feel better.



Haha that reminds me the "Nada is the Mondragon of the korean scene"

On topic, the letter is nice, but if BW sold that many copies in Korea, it's because of the popularity of the game. They're doing it wrong... They should make the game popular first, sell a shitload of copies, and then big tournaments will be held, and a real progaming structure may arise.
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