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On October 07 2010 05:39 Smackzilla wrote:
So what's the next big SC1 tournament and what are the prize payouts?
Instead of trolling you'd be better off doing a research. It costs millions of dollars a year to sustain a single BW proteam. Go ahead and show me a single SC2 esport enterprise that has had millions of dollars invested into it. I bet the entirety of SC2 esports hasn't had more than several million dollars put into it, but that's just an estimation.
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On October 07 2010 05:46 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 05:39 Smackzilla wrote:
So what's the next big SC1 tournament and what are the prize payouts? Instead of trolling you'd be better off doing a research. It costs millions of dollars a year to sustain a single BW proteam. Go ahead and show me a single SC2 esport enterprise that has had millions of dollars invested into it. I bet the entirety of SC2 esports hasn't had more than several million dollars put into it, but that's just an estimation.
Dude, its not trolling. It really is an honest question. And yes, I realize there's a lot more to professional sports leagues than tournament payouts.
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On October 06 2010 22:09 Fungee wrote:
JaeDong making the switch would be awesome but sad for the BW scene. Acti-Blizz is hurrying way too much in trying to kill off BW.
Balance problems and lack of diversity compared to SC:BW definitely take away a lot of appeal from SC2 as it stands. SC:BW fans totally have the right to complain about Activision Blizzard forcibly trying to kill off SC:BW scene with their new flagship product which is still far from finished instead of a smooth transition. SC:BW is still far superior as a spectator sport for obvious reasons. IMHO this does far more damage than good for the current state of e-sports.
Really, what's World of Wacrafts part in "trying to kill off the BW scene" ?
"The fastest selling PC game in history" is, regardless of one might think of the game itself, Blizzards flagship and cashcow.
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On October 07 2010 05:31 john0507 wrote:
He'll move when Sc2 gets bigger , or when Sc1 gets smaller , both will most likely happen , with the latter one coming first.
In anything , money talks , in this case sponsor talks , Sc2 looks pretty good despite just starting off.
Nada already abandoned the sinking Sc1 ship , after a certain amount of time corporate sponsors start abandoning ship , then the ship sinks. And we'll most probably see Jaedong vs Flash in a GSL final lol. It's an evitable fate. The only thing is when that will actually happen.
i hope it happens with a better map pool than gsl1
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On October 06 2010 05:28 darmousseh wrote:
If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time.
hmm something seems a little off about this statement
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On October 05 2010 22:47 ironchef wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 21:53 papaz wrote:On October 05 2010 20:39 mustaju wrote:On October 05 2010 20:18 Ginastic wrote:
"- FlaSh is three years younger then me so I will be too old if I continue to play for another five years"
Why do SC players retire so early...? I could understand if it was football or any other sports, but SC you should be able to play much looonger Try imagining what years of practice 13 hours a day do to your wrists. Also, your reaction speed and multitasking abilities become progressively worse. If people can drive formula 1/play tennis in ATP tour/be fighter pilots and lots more at age of 25-35 I don't know how much better reaction skills SC needs so that you can't compete at age 25. Yeah... My guess is it's more of a social thing. As progressed as Korea is with eSports, I get the feeling most dont want to do it for too long and feel the need to get a "real job" or get married eventually. Even if its still eSport related, like analyst/coach/commentator, but not like as a player. Given the lifespan of games, and it still being a bit shaky industry,I think it's a reasonable position.
Millitary service... also esports unless you are at the very top can only sustain you for so long, and even so, you know it will end for you eventually, so you need to get education/job before you are too old.
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Jaedong should register for the qualifier if he's serious. I'd love to see him compete in Star2 like everyone else.
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jaedong switching over? goodbye, bw. you will be missed...
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LOL once he joins SC2 it'll be the days of 'The Legend Killer' all over again..
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So much for zerg being UP! (jkjk) If this comes to pass soon (GSL 2011 anyone?) that would be completly epic. Cool v Jaedong finals would make Artosis die while casting.
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On October 06 2010 05:13 Ekko wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 04:58 splints wrote:On October 05 2010 22:47 ironchef wrote:On October 05 2010 21:53 papaz wrote:On October 05 2010 20:39 mustaju wrote:On October 05 2010 20:18 Ginastic wrote:
"- FlaSh is three years younger then me so I will be too old if I continue to play for another five years"
Why do SC players retire so early...? I could understand if it was football or any other sports, but SC you should be able to play much looonger Try imagining what years of practice 13 hours a day do to your wrists. Also, your reaction speed and multitasking abilities become progressively worse. If people can drive formula 1/play tennis in ATP tour/be fighter pilots and lots more at age of 25-35 I don't know how much better reaction skills SC needs so that you can't compete at age 25. Yeah... My guess is it's more of a social thing. As progressed as Korea is with eSports, I get the feeling most dont want to do it for too long and feel the need to get a "real job" or get married eventually. Even if its still eSport related, like analyst/coach/commentator, but not like as a player. Given the lifespan of games, and it still being a bit shaky industry,I think it's a reasonable position. Look at boxer... he still plays sc but you can see that he just can't cope with the micro/multitasks as well Watching his game vs Idra that he basically lost from the beginning letting Idra expand so quickly and then coming back from nothing and almost winning makes me think that Boxer has a shot if he gets serious. I doubt he is all that serious about SC right now.
There's what, two released games of Boxer? And they both happen to be losses. So I guess Boxer must have a 100% lose ratio huh. Let's at least wait and see till GSL2 before we use two ladder games to determine whether both Boxer AND Jaedong will success in SC2
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There's what, two released games of Boxer? And they both happen to be losses. So I guess Boxer must have a 100% lose ratio huh. Let's at least wait and see till GSL2 before we use two ladder games to determine whether both Boxer AND Jaedong will success in SC2
I have 5 saved replays of manofoneway, so I'm sure there are more of him winning, plus he is ranked 9th on the Korean Ladder according to Blizzard's Top 200, so I'm sure he will be successful in SC2. He is the legendary Boxer of course.
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Legions of nerds gonna die at his hands if he makes the switch. ^^ This would be an encouragement to actually give a crap about SC2. :D
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On October 07 2010 10:45 SilentCrono wrote:
jaedong switching over? goodbye, bw. you will be missed...
He never said he was going to switch. It was an IF (note the neutral stance) SC2 has a higher status than BW in Korea, which isn't looking good (thank god) as negotiations between KesPA and Blizzard are breaking down rapidly.
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On October 06 2010 08:55 jdr_ wrote:
Coincidence that these 3 made the top 4? As for people saying "Rainbow was bad in the finals durr hurr", please shut the fuck up, that's the nature of starcraft. When Jaedong loses to flash first tank/sci vessel push, he looks like a scrub. Or remember the first set of the MSL finals jaedong won over flash, when he opened mutas and just flat out killed all of flashes SCVS forcing a GG? Like literally, every single one of them. That's the nature of SC, the losing player always looks worse than he is.
QFT
I watched those 5 finals games in the GSL finally. Everyone was saying, "oh, well ITR didnt play nearly as well as he did earlier in the series" or even "ITRs play was horrible." Thats ridiculous, he didnt seem to play that badly. Its just Fruitdealers aggression and responses were too much for ITR. I mean, theres only so much you can do when it seems like every time you move out mutas intercept your medivacs, or if you siege up in a position only to find lings and roaches charging your fungal growthed army while banelings drop out of overlords, etc. Ive never seen a zerg player use the variety of units Fruitdealer did, and definitely not to the effect he had. ITR was outplayed, but its not like he was as bad as people made him out to be.
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SICK! i wonder if he'll find the new mechanics a lil tricky to pick up at first  GL HF JaeDong!
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Personaly i'm not supprised that some zerg started to thing to move out of BW the previus season they were winning games vs protoss with an almost middle game hydralisk russ kal were loosing the one game after another from zerg stork also the same strangly Kal recovered also Storn woke up! When kal said he wanted Jaedong he did couse he has some unfinished buissness with the zerg dont forget he managed to eliminated effort like it was nothing in a large game like he was nothing.
All protoss pro players eyes were to Kal and Stork that finaly recovered i belive that snow will recover also the zerg will have really hard time from the beggin i hope jaedong will not quit after the game with Kal also.
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Note, that these changes are only current planned ideas, they are subject to change so i wouldnt freak out too much yet, but zerg players, you guys can freak out in ecstacy all you guys want, lol.
I can understand were blizzard is going with the depot before rax. All 3 races has their pros and cons for when and where they can build their buildings.Terran can build anywere anytime, pretty normal/standard if you look at it until we look at protoss and zerg. In the very early game, protoss is essentially pylon before building any buildings anyways. Another restriction of protoss is that they can build only in the radius of the pylon. i would rather pick terrans current building restrictions, which is none so far. Now lets look at zerg, they can only spawn buildings were there is creep (besides the hatch). So going from terran, to protoss, to zerg, zerg has it way worse than the other 2 races. So this new supply depot before rax is kinda evening out the balance between the building aspect.
On the other hand, this does suck for those terrans that love early proxy rushes or reaper rushes, as a current terran player i can only accept this new change and find new ways to put on early early pressure.
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On October 07 2010 06:06 Legace wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 22:09 Fungee wrote:
JaeDong making the switch would be awesome but sad for the BW scene. Acti-Blizz is hurrying way too much in trying to kill off BW.
Balance problems and lack of diversity compared to SC:BW definitely take away a lot of appeal from SC2 as it stands. SC:BW fans totally have the right to complain about Activision Blizzard forcibly trying to kill off SC:BW scene with their new flagship product which is still far from finished instead of a smooth transition. SC:BW is still far superior as a spectator sport for obvious reasons. IMHO this does far more damage than good for the current state of e-sports.
Really, what's World of Wacrafts part in "trying to kill off the BW scene" ? "The fastest selling PC game in history" is, regardless of one might think of the game itself, Blizzards flagship and cashcow.
Wow I forgot such a game existed. Should've added flagship strategy game.
Blizz should direct some income from Cataclysm to funding some cool SC2 tourneys.
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On October 05 2010 18:16 Subversion wrote:Am I wrong in saying that SCBW progamers actually earn a lot less money than they should? I think 85,000 dollars EVERY MONTH is a pretty big draw card. Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 13:31 Shinta) wrote:On October 05 2010 11:31 peachsncream wrote:
You guys do realize in sc2, jaedong won't be crazy sick like he is in brood war right... lol duck, you're so right. Crazy sick would be adjectives to describe a human-like player. With Jaedong's RTS talent and the new mechanics of SC2, Jaedong will be a sc2 GOD-LIKE player. You see all the Zerg's now-a-days losing games and complaining about imbalance when really they are losing because they can't handle how hard Zerg is compared to the other races (Zerg can actually be very good, as shown by Fruitseller). With Jaedong's skills (far surpassing Cool's in SC:BW by over 10 fold), the Zerg race's potential can finally be peaked (until new patches come out). SO EXCITED!!!! lol, always someone who has to turn a thread into a balance argument, sigh.
Actually that wasn't a balance argument at all. In fact if you actually read what I said, you'd see that it was the opposite of a balance argument. Thx for reading my post, but I'd prefer if you didn't completely misinterpret it.
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