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I want to know... would you pay someone to do a paper for you if you had the money, and no means to write it yourself?
Stupid question. If someone had no means to write it and had the money to pay you, and they needed the paper, they would, of course, pay you. By assuming no means, the person has no other option than to not write anything, even if they wanted to and has to resort to outside sources.
The question should have been worded differently: "If you had the option and the ability to pay ME money, would you resort to my services rather than write the paper yourself?"
I'm surprised that after all that education you still can't grasp basic logic and proper wording. So the answer to the [right] question would have been: no, I wouldn't pay you money, because I can write similarly or better myself.
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yea yea everyone take your shotz
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This is interesting. I wish you were around when I was in university.
I can see how this would work. I work in the business of sending kids to university - I end up "brainstorming" and "editing" their personal essays (and other things) and helping them come up with "ideas" to make their extracurricular activities sound better than they are.
These kids will go on to top universities and get stuck - because they are not there due to their own merit, they are there because of people like me. Then they will need to write a term paper for some class... and look for people like shotz. *shrug*
It's just the way the world works, as he said. Money can buy anything. Even academia.
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Your post was definitely douchey. The fact that you didn't care that it was douchey was probably what offended people.
People (especially on the internet) have very good douche detectors. When they smell one who isn't apologetic, it offends their internal sense of what is right and non-douchey (how dare he say that without feeling ashamed).
Your personality aside (I don't really give a shit if you're a douche in real life), I think it's an interesting issue and clearly very telling about the credentials that everyday people are carrying around them. I would never pay for such an essay, as it goes against my moral code. I believe in value for its own sake, and not as a signal. A signal is merely an indicator of value. Without actual merit, who are you? Just getting by on a lie? I wouldn't be able to live with that.
There are degrees to it of course. "It's just a degree." "I'm doing this to please my parents." "I don't care about the degree."
It does dishearten me to see so many people willing to cheat. But hey, people are willing to pay for anything worth something to them.
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sounds like you on cocaine
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On August 08 2009 10:01 lilsusie wrote:
This is interesting. I wish you were around when I was in university.
I can see how this would work. I work in the business of sending kids to university - I end up "brainstorming" and "editing" their personal essays (and other things) and helping them come up with "ideas" to make their extracurricular activities sound better than they are.
These kids will go on to top universities and get stuck - because they are not there due to their own merit, they are there because of people like me. Then they will need to write a term paper for some class... and look for people like shotz. *shrug*
It's just the way the world works, as he said. Money can buy anything. Even academia.
Susie, baby... I know right?? Esp. in Korean culture, going to a top university is blown up to something it's not.
So kids end up going to schools where they can't take the pressure of their workload. This time, no one's out there to help them.
But my clients are surprisingly NOT college kids. College kids (as you and I both know) don't have any doe. LOL.
Most of my clients are people going back to school in the face of a recession. Many of them are working, and looking to get promoted. And in order to get this promotion, often times, they need not be the BEST POLICE OFFICER at the station, but have a bachelor's degree.
One of my clients/friend is a buddy I met while I was living in Hamilton Heights, NYC. Ex-drug dealer like myself, trying to make it straight. You think I charged him up the ass? No. He was struggling at his community college, with an intro to western philosophy class. Is he going to need that to become a mid-level manager? Is he going to need to know Descartes to tell people to get back to work? Maybe. But I doubt it.
I think, therefore I am. Infinitely useful to some, meaningless to many.
PS: Susie, nice commentary on Gom. Work on your Korean KEKEKEKEKEK. JK--you're so much better than I am. I totally dig your style. Are you in Korea? I wish I could go... never been. 
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On August 08 2009 07:47 eatmyshorts5 wrote:
Gonna be honest the essays are pretty high quality but also to be honest i wouldn't pay for one.
Some are good (not great), but some are terrible.
And the OP's justification is bullshit. It's not that difficult to obtain financial aid if you're proactive about it, especially in ivy league schools.
The credentials don't MAKE A MAN. The MAN MAKES THE MAN. Yet you're supplying a service that specifically grants people credentials without them demonstrating their own worth. You certainly seem like a craft entrepreneur, but it's a shame that you've let your morals go to waste. And I don't buy your rationalization of the practice at all. I hope you're doing something good with the money.
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Jibba,
Which ones did you think were good? Which ones are terrible? 
PS: And compared to the other "writing services" out there, mine are like pure rocks
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I read your Nietzsche sample and I'm curious why the writer uses "me" near the middle of the 2nd page.
There are several other sites which offer the same service, what makes your site stand out? Most professors also run plagiarism tests now, don't know how they work though.
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On August 08 2009 10:17 shotz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2009 10:01 lilsusie wrote:
This is interesting. I wish you were around when I was in university.
I can see how this would work. I work in the business of sending kids to university - I end up "brainstorming" and "editing" their personal essays (and other things) and helping them come up with "ideas" to make their extracurricular activities sound better than they are.
These kids will go on to top universities and get stuck - because they are not there due to their own merit, they are there because of people like me. Then they will need to write a term paper for some class... and look for people like shotz. *shrug*
It's just the way the world works, as he said. Money can buy anything. Even academia. Susie, baby... I know right?? Esp. in Korean culture, going to a top university is blown up to something it's not. So kids end up going to schools where they can't take the pressure of their workload. This time, no one's out there to help them. But my clients are surprisingly NOT college kids. College kids (as you and I both know) don't have any doe. LOL. Most of my clients are people going back to school in the face of a recession. Many of them are working, and looking to get promoted. And in order to get this promotion, often times, they need not be the BEST POLICE OFFICER at the station, but have a bachelor's degree. One of my clients/friend is a buddy I met while I was living in Hamilton Heights, NYC. Ex-drug dealer like myself, trying to make it straight. You think I charged him up the ass? No. He was struggling at his community college, with an intro to western philosophy class. Is he going to need that to become a mid-level manager? Is he going to need to know Descartes to tell people to get back to work? Maybe. But I doubt it. I think, therefore I am. Infinitely useful to some, meaningless to many. PS: Susie, nice commentary on Gom. Work on your Korean KEKEKEKEKEK. JK--you're so much better than I am. I totally dig your style. Are you in Korea? I wish I could go... never been.
Thanks. But please don't call me baby.
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Do you play Starcraft? Or is this just simply a forum to spread your business?
Though honestly I'm pretty sure you're just a troll. A pretty bad one at that.
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On August 08 2009 10:47 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I read your Nietzsche sample and I'm curious why the writer uses "me" near the middle of the 2nd page.
There are several other sites which offer the same service, what makes your site stand out? Most professors also run plagiarism tests now, don't know how they work though.
Zulu, darling. Try one of em out. See what you get back. Then feed it to your dog.
We stand out b/c we meet our clients regularly, face-to-face. Obviously, we can only meet the ones in NYC right now, since that's where we're based. But we're looking into that...
Zulunation, what a groovy ID.
Anyways, we stand out also b/c you can reach us. We're accessible. Though I may come off like an irresponsible "douche" (why do ppl use this as an insult? it's disgusting and unpleasant rolling off the tongue), this is my livelihood and I treat it as such.
As to why my writer used "me" in the Nietzsche paper, I'd have to check. The samples up there are by no means, error-free. Many of our papers are needed ASAP, and many of them get As, at LEAST Bs, only b/c the professors know very little about the subject in the first place.
Zulu fan of Nietzsche? I had a professor once who claimed that Nietzsche saved his life.
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Yeah, I play some starcraft. Nahh.. more accurately, I used to. A couple of my RL buddies play BGH. I'm the only one I know into professional SC.
Mostly, I watch when I eat. I'm a huge fan of Bisu. Though I respect JD, Fantasy, Flash, etc. as great players.
I like Sea, too. I hate Stork.
And I think Leta is the most overrated garbage.
edit: i'm still not sure what a troll is.
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I know a (Korean) Eddie H at Columbia ...
*whistles*
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lol oh shit its yang dong geun
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On August 08 2009 10:47 lilsusie wrote:
Thanks. But please don't call me baby.
nice song too.
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On August 08 2009 10:57 shotz wrote:
I hate Stork.
I don't think we can get along.
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Sorry for the personal question, but about how much do you make a year from this? You said it was full time, but do you have any side sources of income? I'm just curious.
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How are you a senior @ Columbia if you dropped out of college after your first year?
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