I'm so disillusioned with academia. I paid over 35,000 to attend a TOP TOP university in New York for a year. And I couldn't go back, once I realized my financial aid wasn't going to work out.
So fuck it. I dealt drugs. I tried running some chicks; got my ass kicked. Dealt more drugs. Read books. Hundreds of them. For about a year, you couldn't find me on the street handing out white without a book in my back pocket.
Started a women's clothing business. Tanked after a year. I don't regret it. It made me smarter. Took trips to LA. Anyone out in LA? Used to be in the fashion district all the time. Beautiful Korean chicks.
Yeah, I'm Korean. I started watching Starcraft ever since I got rid of my TV. Now, it's like my TV. I just watch whenever I eat. I'm a Bisu fanboi I guess HAH.
Anyway, about two years ago (I still have not gone back), I started another business. I write term papers for people. Essays. Top-quality shit. Like CRAZY good. Surprisingly, it's been doing real well. Started marketing all over the US. Mostly in NY, but now we're all over. I hired a couple writers. Now we have five.
None of my clients ever come to me about that bullshit. "OMG you're writing papers for people? How do you live with yourself? What about the academic code?"
Well, FUCK the academic code.
If I can't go to school b/c I wasn't born with a goddamn trust fund in my name, then fuck it. And fuck you too, if you feel any different.
It's all bullshit. You get ahead by knowing what people want, and knowing how to give it to them.
Most of my clients are older folks. 28. 32. My oldest was a 66, already with one Masters in Abnormal Psych. They never give me that "morality" bullshit. Why? Because these older folk know how this world works. No, I'm not disillusioned with LIFE. I LOVE LIFE. I'm disillusioned with academia.
All my life I was told, once I get into an Ivy League school, I'll have it made. Well, what do you know? Not true. That's what the sheep think. That's what you may think. But trust me, I know first hand, it AINT TRUE. It's about being active. Being smart. The credentials don't MAKE A MAN. The MAN MAKES THE MAN. Credentials are just badges.
I've met actors. I've employed entrepreneurs. I've employed hipster cafe owners, and turned down Ivy Leaguers.
Some of my clients are in the top-tiers of law enforcement. MANY of my clients are in the education system. HAHAHAHA. What does that say to you??? That professors are coming up to ME, little old me, for help with a second masters?
Goodness...
But anyways, I want to know TL. I want to know your opinion. I already have an inkling of what it might be. That comes from experience. Experience with people. Over the years I've met so many people who were on the fence about my services. I've heard everything.
I want to know... would you pay someone to do a paper for you if you had the money, and no means to write it yourself?
Think of it as a mini-philosophy/ethics/psych test.
Thanks for listening:
Oh, and I donno if I'm allowed to do this, but shameless plug for my services (Mod PM me if I should take this down
i wouldn't pay for one, unless i was really rich and could just throw money at my schoolwork so i wouldn't have to do it. but i can't justify spending mony on something i could do myself for free, that's like paying for porn
Well I hope you don't write your essays the same way you just wrote your post because that doesn't even remotely qualify as "top shit." Your arrogance exudes from you like cheap beer from a hobo.
Yea, I'm sure you don't write like in your post. But you maybe have noticed that the people who are more educated tend to write in a more educated fashion, even when its only casual.
You guys really think I type blog posts on TL the same way I write papers? FORREAL? TL has some real smart dudes. But TL has some real stupid dudes too.
You guys really think I type blog posts on TL the same way I write papers? FORREAL? TL has some real smart dudes. But TL has some real stupid dudes too.
Thanks.
Give us a sample please. I would like to see what your capable of.
On August 08 2009 07:41 NoobsOfWrath wrote: You remind me of Ke422azn.
LOL
I wouldn't pay someone, I just can't get over the fact that it wasn't my work, but that's me, I know plenty of people who would pay, more than a hand full.
Link to the website is at the bottom of the OP. Check us out, you can even give me a call. We're based out of NYC. Samples on the website, and through e-mail, by request.
You're fucking retarded, if you type like shit on a forum what would compel me to give you money to write something good for me. Especially since this is basically an advertisement for your business. It reads like someone's dad trying to act hip. What's up DOGG man isn't school the WORST? Let's go SKATEBOARDING, HANG TEN
On August 08 2009 07:45 floor exercise wrote: You're fucking retarded, if you type like shit on a forum what would compel me to give you money to write something good for me. Especially since this is basically an advertisement for your business. It reads like someone's dad trying to act hip. What's up DOGG man isn't school the WORST? Let's go SKATEBOARDING, HANG TEN
Bro, calm down. What's wrong with you? What did I do to you?
Your attitude fucking sucks. I have no problem with what you're doing though I'd rather write my own but the way you post is really up yourself. There are people on this forum with far more to brag about who say far less.
I wouldn't pay for a paper and actually, I'm about to finish my business university, even so I heartfully agree with your opinion that universities are shit.
My main problem with them is that theory won't make you a better professional, whatever area you want to work in. It's just... bullshit. It's a huge waste of time... something that became default in modern society, but hardly means shit. I've been working hard for the last 3 years in an investment fund and I use maybe 3% of the knowledge I acquired from classes. You become a better professional by being smart and working hard. That's it.
On August 08 2009 07:49 JohnColtrane wrote: are you employed full time by this writing job or do you have another?
Johnny boy (by the way, i'm assuming you are a disciple of the great blower, yes man yes). I don't have any other job. This takes up all of my time. I started it writing the shit myself. Now, I mostly handle marketing, administrative shit, sales. Worse, to be honest. When you write shit for other ppl, you have no IDEA what you can learn.
For example, I did this paper for a pilot in training, when I was starting out. I had to do research into the Sikorsky Helicopter company. I probably know more about helicopters than most pilots....
It's fun. Plus, the ppl I employ are all out-of-work struggling writers, poets, etc. They're disillusioned too! US economy fucked them, and they paid for their education through the noses. Now, there's nothing out there for them, but this.
On August 08 2009 07:53 Kwark wrote: Your attitude fucking sucks. I have no problem with what you're doing though I'd rather write my own but the way you post is really up yourself. There are people on this forum with far more to brag about who say far less.
Kwark, buddy.
Wasn't really a brag post. I've been doing this for two years. Why brag on an internet forum? Basically, I started off with a blog post here, and I think ppl got the wrong idea about me. This is a part of my life. This is me, this is how I support my mom and bro. I'm proud of it, yes. I'm also angry at the system.
I honestly wanted to get ppl's opinions on the morality of what I do, and at the same time, direct them to my website .
I'm not saying I'm the shit. I'm not saying that there aren't ppl who are "more accomplished" than me. In a way, THIS IS NOT WHAT I WANT TO DO.
I always wanted to be a fiction writer. Still do. Don't care about money, don't care about class, etc. ACCOLADES?
i'm looking for an essay: "from ivy league student to ivy league dropout, to ivy league dropout drug dealer, to ivy league dropout drug dealer and pimp, to ivy league dropout, failed pimp but successful drug dealer, to starcraft fan and founder of the site 'ivy league papers from an ivy league dropout.'"
i'd like it to be a nonfiction piece so i think you're my man
i dont have a problem with what you are doing or with what you are posting. if i was american, had money and was in a problematic situation id probably take you up on one of your offers
i like coltrane but i prefer sonny rollins anyway :D
It's almost as bad as the "11 yo college grad denounces video games"
shotz, the only disagreement I have with your service is that I might get owned by the curve if some other student has a TOP NOTCH CRAZY GOOD PROFESSIONAL paper :\
edit: luckily im not majoring in anything english related
Obviously no. If I hired you to write my exam and you got caught, I would get expelled. I'd rather study myself than risking my future on the likes of you.
On August 08 2009 08:05 Fontong wrote: Haha this is so funny
It's almost as bad as the "11 yo college grad denounces video games"
shotz, the only disagreement I have with your service is that I might get owned by the curve if some other student has a TOP NOTCH CRAZY GOOD PROFESSIONAL paper :\
edit: luckily im not majoring in anything english related
Lol your edit says it all. was just abt to say that. Most of our shit is english/philosophy/education/management/admissions stuff.
Business/math/science we get a little, but not really. But those are the subjects that utilize curves, correct?
So fuck it. I dealt drugs. I tried running some chicks; got my ass kicked. Dealt more drugs. Read books. Hundreds of them. For about a year, you couldn't find me on the street handing out white without a book in my back pocket.
On August 08 2009 08:05 Fontong wrote: Haha this is so funny
It's almost as bad as the "11 yo college grad denounces video games"
shotz, the only disagreement I have with your service is that I might get owned by the curve if some other student has a TOP NOTCH CRAZY GOOD PROFESSIONAL paper :\
edit: luckily im not majoring in anything english related
Lol your edit says it all. was just abt to say that. Most of our shit is english/philosophy/education/management/admissions stuff.
Business/math/science we get a little, but not really. But those are the subjects that utilize curves, correct?
Which is why a degree in art is a useless piece of shit. Thanks for pointing that out.
So fuck it. I dealt drugs. I tried running some chicks; got my ass kicked. Dealt more drugs. Read books. Hundreds of them. For about a year, you couldn't find me on the street handing out white without a book in my back pocket.
You're a piece of shit.
Yeah. No you're absolutely right. It's a part of my life, and I think Emerson said somewhere that lying to yourself is the most dangerous thing (paraphrasing obviously). I did lots of shit i'm not really proud of, but it's not like I have a twisted perspective on chicks. I dig em, of course.
On August 08 2009 07:53 Kwark wrote: Your attitude fucking sucks. I have no problem with what you're doing though I'd rather write my own but the way you post is really up yourself. There are people on this forum with far more to brag about who say far less.
On August 08 2009 07:53 Kwark wrote: Your attitude fucking sucks. I have no problem with what you're doing though I'd rather write my own but the way you post is really up yourself. There are people on this forum with far more to brag about who say far less.
I think you're kind of arrogant and extremely unscrupulous. Nonetheless, I do like that such a business could provide a really good opportunity to learn since I'm assuming you research the papers.
Personally, I would never pay someone to write my papers.
So fuck it. I dealt drugs. I tried running some chicks; got my ass kicked. Dealt more drugs. Read books. Hundreds of them. For about a year, you couldn't find me on the street handing out white without a book in my back pocket.
You're a piece of shit.
Yeah. No you're absolutely right. It's a part of my life, and I think Emerson said somewhere that lying to yourself is the most dangerous thing (paraphrasing obviously). I did lots of shit i'm not really proud of, but it's not like I have a twisted perspective on chicks. I dig em, of course.
I do regret it.
We all have some time or another, atleast you don't try and deny it.
As far as your business, I think it's pretty sweet. I would definitely utilize something like this if I had the money. I know a couple people who would wet themselves over this, and you seem legit. Maybe I'll send them the link.
I agree with your academic views. It's just a degree. You don't really prove anything by going to college. Anyone who is not inbred retarded can put the hours in to get passing grades and get a degree. The prices are ridiculous as well.
Now all we need is a business that you can link your math homework to and have them complete it for you, lol.
It's really funny to me how many people got on this guy for his posting style. When I read the first half or so, I thought, "Is this an attempted short story or something?" At least he posts with personality and substance, which is more than can be said of most TL posters. Of course, I love TL in spite of that.
Anyways, how is it that you can offer to do theses, especially in the sciences? Don't these generally require at least a year or two of study in a specific field?
I don't see anything wrong with offering or using this kind of service, but I'm pretty sure I will never use it.
You get such a variety of attitudes and perspectives on TL. Seriously. It amazes me. I had this other blog post where I first started off kinda emo about how I don't really post online, some shit about internet personality.
It's crazy though. Ppl all over the world get to see your opinion on something. It truly is an honor and a privilege.
Snet, that'd be fantastic. And thanks for the pardon.
On August 08 2009 08:19 enthusiast wrote: It's really funny to me how many people got on this guy for his posting style. When I read the first half or so, I thought, "Is this an attempted short story or something?" At least he posts with personality and substance, which is more than can be said of most TL posters. Of course, I love TL in spite of that.
Anyways, how is it that you can offer to do theses, especially in the sciences? Don't these generally require at least a year or two of study in a specific field?
I don't see anything wrong with offering or using this kind of service, but I'm pretty sure I will never use it.
Well we don't take on projects we absolutely cannot handle. If we come across.. say for example, a thesis on perception and Th1 response, which is 50 pages--I ask my writer if he can handle it. If he/she says no, then I refer them to one of my competitors.
I usually know immediately when i see the project, the scope of it, etc, if my writers can handle it or not.
I'd probably worry about the professionalism even if I was pretty sure the quality was good. Because my feeling is the guy probably knows how to write a paper, but his personality is like: YO WHAT'S UP DOGG. If I got a paper from him I'd probably be looking if he wrote some shit like SEXSEXPUSSYHAIR somewhere in the middle or looking if all the first letters going down vertically from the left side said Isuckcocklol.
I'd also think that if I asked for an online class to be done I'd have to give him my personal info, which at my school the login was your SS#. I think it's more about a trust issue then a quality issue.
On August 08 2009 08:28 ForSC2 wrote: I'd probably worry about the professionalism even if I was pretty sure the quality was good. Because my feeling is the guy probably knows how to write a paper, but his personality is like: YO WHAT'S UP DOGG. If I got a paper from him I'd probably be looking if he wrote some shit like SEXSEXPUSSYHAIR somewhere in the middle or looking if all the first letters going down vertically from the left side said Isuckcocklol.
I'd also think that if I asked for an online class to be done I'd have to give him my personal info, which at my school the login was your SS#. I think it's more about a trust issue then a quality issue.
Completely understandable. Honestly, I have business persona and personal persona. If you think Commandante Obama is that stony faced statue at home, if you don't think he lets one rip in front of Michelle and the kids, and has an ugly pimple on his buttocks he complains about to his buddies, then sorry!
Of course, he would never fart during the State of the Union, would he?
You know, the very trust fund babies you dislike are the only ones that can afford your services. Plus, I'm glad that you mostly do english papers, since those tend not to be curved. Business (including management), engineering, science, math classes tend to be curved, and you are just fucking over the poor, hard-working students who try to play by the rules that they are given.
Obviously I think having someone write your paper for you is wrong, but I tried to be as polite as possible.
Name: Eddie H. School: Senior @ Columbia University Focus: Philosophy, English, Religion, History Date Joined: Founder Quote: One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. – Martin Luther King Jr.
Your story intrigues me. I'm not going to judge you based on how you post because that doesn't seem to be a very reliable method. However i would like to know something. You say you "push" "white" (sell cocaine? correct me if I'm wrong.) What do you charge? What do you cut with? (or do you get pure?) if so, How high up in the hierarchy are you? How much have you moved to this day?
On August 08 2009 07:29 shotz wrote: I'm so disillusioned with academia. I paid over 35,000 to attend a TOP TOP university in New York for a year.
Columbia is not "top top," bro. If you went to a real "top top" school, you wouldnt have been forced to pay 35K in your situation.
And there is no way in hell I trust you to write anything half way decent as a first-year columbia dropout (high school school diploma nice!), drug dealer, a pimp, and a bumbling fool as seen from your posts here.
Despicable business to begin with, but you are not even doing that right.
On August 08 2009 07:29 shotz wrote: I'm so disillusioned with academia. I paid over 35,000 to attend a TOP TOP university in New York for a year.
Columbia is not "top top," bro. If you went to a real "top top" school, you wouldnt have been forced to pay 35K in your situation.
It's a tax issue... don't ask
Yeah Harvard and Yale just implemented some shit. Good good stuff. Hope to see more with Obama at the helm.
(by the way I was the only Hilary supporter at my school [haha no just kidding, but there were very few of em])
Anyway, Harvard and Yale (now Columbia as well) give free rides to anyone who comes from a family taking in less than a certain amount of income (60?). Not sure, as it's before my time, and I don't really care if it's a top school or not.
All I know is Kerouac went there for a year, and I wanted to go too :D
I would rather scrub toilets all day than write papers, needless to say I do not envy you. If you choose the right school, you can get a good education at a reasonable cost. I graduated debt free with a BS in computer science, landed a job at Microsoft before I graduated, and now I'm set.
On August 08 2009 09:39 FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I would rather scrub toilets all day than write papers, needless to say I do not envy you. If you choose the right school, you can get a good education at a reasonable cost. I graduated debt free with a BS in computer science, landed a job at Microsoft before I graduated, and now I'm set.
Frosted, honey. Absolutely right. There are plenty of other educational opportunities out there for people who are less well-endowed (financially obv). I'm glad for you. I really am. You made a decision, you've made life choices. And they've paid off for you.
I have made some as well. Some of them have not been wise. But who doesn't make some boneheaded choices once in a while? I don't want to go to another school. Columbia, in a way, was my first love. And they won't let me back. That disheartens me.
I don't want to be "set". I dont' want to make money and have a fucking "title." What I want is to be left alone to write. I wanted to go to Columbia to meet other writers like myself. Now I'm doing this bullshit.
I'm not bragging. I'm proud of the fact that, in my situation, I've found something to keep me and my family afloat. But again, it's not what I want you to do. My offer was just my compliments on your proofreading skills. Please don't take it personally.
I want to know... would you pay someone to do a paper for you if you had the money, and no means to write it yourself?
Stupid question. If someone had no means to write it and had the money to pay you, and they needed the paper, they would, of course, pay you. By assuming no means, the person has no other option than to not write anything, even if they wanted to and has to resort to outside sources.
The question should have been worded differently: "If you had the option and the ability to pay ME money, would you resort to my services rather than write the paper yourself?"
I'm surprised that after all that education you still can't grasp basic logic and proper wording. So the answer to the [right] question would have been: no, I wouldn't pay you money, because I can write similarly or better myself.
This is interesting. I wish you were around when I was in university.
I can see how this would work. I work in the business of sending kids to university - I end up "brainstorming" and "editing" their personal essays (and other things) and helping them come up with "ideas" to make their extracurricular activities sound better than they are.
These kids will go on to top universities and get stuck - because they are not there due to their own merit, they are there because of people like me. Then they will need to write a term paper for some class... and look for people like shotz. *shrug*
It's just the way the world works, as he said. Money can buy anything. Even academia.
Your post was definitely douchey. The fact that you didn't care that it was douchey was probably what offended people.
People (especially on the internet) have very good douche detectors. When they smell one who isn't apologetic, it offends their internal sense of what is right and non-douchey (how dare he say that without feeling ashamed).
Your personality aside (I don't really give a shit if you're a douche in real life), I think it's an interesting issue and clearly very telling about the credentials that everyday people are carrying around them. I would never pay for such an essay, as it goes against my moral code. I believe in value for its own sake, and not as a signal. A signal is merely an indicator of value. Without actual merit, who are you? Just getting by on a lie? I wouldn't be able to live with that.
There are degrees to it of course. "It's just a degree." "I'm doing this to please my parents." "I don't care about the degree."
It does dishearten me to see so many people willing to cheat. But hey, people are willing to pay for anything worth something to them.
On August 08 2009 10:01 lilsusie wrote: This is interesting. I wish you were around when I was in university.
I can see how this would work. I work in the business of sending kids to university - I end up "brainstorming" and "editing" their personal essays (and other things) and helping them come up with "ideas" to make their extracurricular activities sound better than they are.
These kids will go on to top universities and get stuck - because they are not there due to their own merit, they are there because of people like me. Then they will need to write a term paper for some class... and look for people like shotz. *shrug*
It's just the way the world works, as he said. Money can buy anything. Even academia.
Susie, baby... I know right?? Esp. in Korean culture, going to a top university is blown up to something it's not.
So kids end up going to schools where they can't take the pressure of their workload. This time, no one's out there to help them.
But my clients are surprisingly NOT college kids. College kids (as you and I both know) don't have any doe. LOL.
Most of my clients are people going back to school in the face of a recession. Many of them are working, and looking to get promoted. And in order to get this promotion, often times, they need not be the BEST POLICE OFFICER at the station, but have a bachelor's degree.
One of my clients/friend is a buddy I met while I was living in Hamilton Heights, NYC. Ex-drug dealer like myself, trying to make it straight. You think I charged him up the ass? No. He was struggling at his community college, with an intro to western philosophy class. Is he going to need that to become a mid-level manager? Is he going to need to know Descartes to tell people to get back to work? Maybe. But I doubt it.
I think, therefore I am. Infinitely useful to some, meaningless to many.
PS: Susie, nice commentary on Gom. Work on your Korean KEKEKEKEKEK. JK--you're so much better than I am. I totally dig your style. Are you in Korea? I wish I could go... never been.
On August 08 2009 07:47 eatmyshorts5 wrote: Gonna be honest the essays are pretty high quality but also to be honest i wouldn't pay for one.
Some are good (not great), but some are terrible.
And the OP's justification is bullshit. It's not that difficult to obtain financial aid if you're proactive about it, especially in ivy league schools.
The credentials don't MAKE A MAN. The MAN MAKES THE MAN.
Yet you're supplying a service that specifically grants people credentials without them demonstrating their own worth. You certainly seem like a craft entrepreneur, but it's a shame that you've let your morals go to waste. And I don't buy your rationalization of the practice at all. I hope you're doing something good with the money.
I read your Nietzsche sample and I'm curious why the writer uses "me" near the middle of the 2nd page.
There are several other sites which offer the same service, what makes your site stand out? Most professors also run plagiarism tests now, don't know how they work though.
On August 08 2009 10:01 lilsusie wrote: This is interesting. I wish you were around when I was in university.
I can see how this would work. I work in the business of sending kids to university - I end up "brainstorming" and "editing" their personal essays (and other things) and helping them come up with "ideas" to make their extracurricular activities sound better than they are.
These kids will go on to top universities and get stuck - because they are not there due to their own merit, they are there because of people like me. Then they will need to write a term paper for some class... and look for people like shotz. *shrug*
It's just the way the world works, as he said. Money can buy anything. Even academia.
Susie, baby... I know right?? Esp. in Korean culture, going to a top university is blown up to something it's not.
So kids end up going to schools where they can't take the pressure of their workload. This time, no one's out there to help them.
But my clients are surprisingly NOT college kids. College kids (as you and I both know) don't have any doe. LOL.
Most of my clients are people going back to school in the face of a recession. Many of them are working, and looking to get promoted. And in order to get this promotion, often times, they need not be the BEST POLICE OFFICER at the station, but have a bachelor's degree.
One of my clients/friend is a buddy I met while I was living in Hamilton Heights, NYC. Ex-drug dealer like myself, trying to make it straight. You think I charged him up the ass? No. He was struggling at his community college, with an intro to western philosophy class. Is he going to need that to become a mid-level manager? Is he going to need to know Descartes to tell people to get back to work? Maybe. But I doubt it.
I think, therefore I am. Infinitely useful to some, meaningless to many.
PS: Susie, nice commentary on Gom. Work on your Korean KEKEKEKEKEK. JK--you're so much better than I am. I totally dig your style. Are you in Korea? I wish I could go... never been.
On August 08 2009 10:47 zulu_nation8 wrote: I read your Nietzsche sample and I'm curious why the writer uses "me" near the middle of the 2nd page.
There are several other sites which offer the same service, what makes your site stand out? Most professors also run plagiarism tests now, don't know how they work though.
Zulu, darling. Try one of em out. See what you get back. Then feed it to your dog.
We stand out b/c we meet our clients regularly, face-to-face. Obviously, we can only meet the ones in NYC right now, since that's where we're based. But we're looking into that...
Zulunation, what a groovy ID.
Anyways, we stand out also b/c you can reach us. We're accessible. Though I may come off like an irresponsible "douche" (why do ppl use this as an insult? it's disgusting and unpleasant rolling off the tongue), this is my livelihood and I treat it as such.
As to why my writer used "me" in the Nietzsche paper, I'd have to check. The samples up there are by no means, error-free. Many of our papers are needed ASAP, and many of them get As, at LEAST Bs, only b/c the professors know very little about the subject in the first place.
Zulu fan of Nietzsche? I had a professor once who claimed that Nietzsche saved his life.
Sorry for the personal question, but about how much do you make a year from this? You said it was full time, but do you have any side sources of income? I'm just curious.
Fri-19:30:24 <SKT_zo> i don't know any dealer or exdealer who goes around "yeah. i dealt drugs. it was pretty bad but what i can say im such a badass... heh" Fri-19:30:27 <Jathin> waste of time Fri-19:30:48 <Jathin> you're writing essays for people so they can succeed in their careers Fri-19:30:52 <Jathin> here's a novel idea Fri-19:30:58 <Jathin> use those papers for yourself and succeed Fri-19:31:05 <Jathin> instead of being a college dropout working for $50 per essay Fri-19:31:07 <Jathin> you dumbfuck
On August 08 2009 11:54 Delerium wrote: Fri-19:30:24 <SKT_zo> i don't know any dealer or exdealer who goes around "yeah. i dealt drugs. it was pretty bad but what i can say im such a badass... heh" Fri-19:30:27 <Jathin> waste of time Fri-19:30:48 <Jathin> you're writing essays for people so they can succeed in their careers Fri-19:30:52 <Jathin> here's a novel idea Fri-19:30:58 <Jathin> use those papers for yourself and succeed Fri-19:31:05 <Jathin> instead of being a college dropout working for $50 per essay Fri-19:31:07 <Jathin> you dumbfuck
Later haters Send me a postcard from the rat race.
HMMM reminds me of a quote:
"The problem with winning the rat race, is you're still a rat."
On August 08 2009 11:54 Delerium wrote: Fri-19:30:24 <SKT_zo> i don't know any dealer or exdealer who goes around "yeah. i dealt drugs. it was pretty bad but what i can say im such a badass... heh" Fri-19:30:27 <Jathin> waste of time Fri-19:30:48 <Jathin> you're writing essays for people so they can succeed in their careers Fri-19:30:52 <Jathin> here's a novel idea Fri-19:30:58 <Jathin> use those papers for yourself and succeed Fri-19:31:05 <Jathin> instead of being a college dropout working for $50 per essay Fri-19:31:07 <Jathin> you dumbfuck
Later haters Send me a postcard from the rat race.
HMMM reminds me of a quote:
"The problem with winning the rat race, is you're still a rat."
Some A+ burns right here folks, get your money in now.
Well, I don't think many people are interested in your services, considering a large proportion of TL users don't use English as their primary language for writing.
yeah and i've done it quite a few times. Gave a buddy 35$ on pokerstars to write a report for me. Also helped another friend fix his broken windshield wipers in exchange for a final essay ;p
I'm actually really good at term papers but yeah I'd rather take the easy way out even if it means a slightly lower grade.
You say you wrote master theses? Seems kinds BS to me as most of those require actual research usually done at a level that some guy who only went to uni 1 year wouldn't be able to do. Most people in my department either do work off arch sites they have excavated or go to the major skeletal collections to collect data.
And by the way, academia is like every other human thing. There are people who do the work and do it themselves and those who are idiots who skate their way easy through it by cheating. I don't know why your so "disillusioned" with academia.... You say profs have come to you for shit? Either BS or they are low level shit ones that probably did the same thing while they were in school and can't do the actual work now. Your post sounds like a subtle but not so subtle brag post that is just a fake way to gain internet awe from stupid people.
Well Slaughter ol' bud, we write theses. That's a factoid. Obviously, in terms of more intensive projects, we are given ample amounts of research to begin with.
As has been mentioned, in the case of a very complex science thesis, we'd probably say no, we can't handle your fucking complexity.
Then I have a slice of humble pie and eat little papers for breakfast.
Then I respond to stupid remarks like yours. HAHA jk, don't get offended.
Im not condemning your work, really just your overall attitude towards academia (prolly because im currently in a masters program for bio anthro). Its not surprising at all that some people have papers written for them. Especially in graduate school were school work per say isn't what makes you I can see some people trying to ease that workload in favor of doing research/lab work. I myself had to write a 30 page paper last semester and it was a pain doing that while building a museum exhibit and doing lab work and doing presentations on some of my old work on conferences with the like 6-8 hours of reading and note taking a night. While it is tempting im not like one of your clients If you have such gifts with writing and such you should try to get into college and stay there unless its something you don't think is for you. How come your aid was canceled after your 1st year?
My aid wasn't canceled. When I said it wasn't working out, I meant I didn't GET my aid for that year in the first place. Sorry if that was confusing.
I completely understand your point of view. To be honest, you shouldn't worry. Nobody at your level of work, your level of education, is having papers written for them.
We're looking at people who are just trying to get their bachelor's, finish their online course, are having trouble adjusting after years of real life work.
We're talking about good people with kids. With jobs. With an eye on the future. People who work hard, but simply do NOT have the time or skill.
Not to say there isn't a lazy fuck thrown in there once in a while. Usually I can finger him out and I charge him up his trust-fund ass.
I'm not the first person to do this. I won't be the last. But I'm the best.
Slaughter, ol bud, work hard. I'm rooting for you in your quest of attaining your academic missions. Truly I do. I don't disrespect those who don't share my views.
But from where I'm standing, the stink of academia is like the furnace of Sodom.
Haha im not defending academia, its like the business world. On the outside its all nice people trying to do their best and get a head. but in reality its cut throat over funding and prestige, who can build the best programs and draw the best students etc. Its kinda funny to me that the site exists just because your not hiding it but there isn't any way to track it and they can't legally shut down your site. I wonder if any schools have sent you hate mail haha? Only reason why I wouldn't do it is because writing papers in my field is key so you have to know how to do it by writing a lot so it would be a waste for me to get the degree then to fail at writing for myself. That and the degree would feel fake to me. Plus I enjoy writing papers on subjects I like (like the one I had to do last semester).
On August 08 2009 13:39 Xenocide_Knight wrote: please stop calling people baby, buddy, ol'bud, and such
k, stupid
Anyways, this is what I see.
I see credentials. We are a meritocracy. You went to Law School? OK. You went to Law School and got a degree? Wow.
You served as *enter confusing title* for *what does this organization really do?* Wow.
Everyone is looking to get merits. The more merits you have, the more money you're going to make. The more money you're going to make, the hotter your wife/husband is going to be. Then you can buy a nice car, a nice house, blah blah. All these are merits--symbols of your success.
That's all fine and dandy, if you choose to live that way.
I don't NEED a bachelor's to know I can write. I don't NEED a class in business to know how to run a business. And honestly, neither do you.
You don't NEED the law degree to succeed in life. Look at Lincoln. Successful politician and lawyer, and he was largely self-educated. Billy G dropped out of the Ivys to found what is ESSENTIAL to us today.
Just remember what your striving for. Are you striving for the badge? Or are you striving to learn something?
If you're simply striving for the badge, why outsource your BS projects? For example, you need a BA in Macro, but you're required to take an Art History class. Do you WANT to learn about Art History? I DO. But maybe you don't. Too bad for you, I'll take it off your hands. You win, I win. Win-win.
The world is getting more and more specialized each day. We have lefty relievers coming out of the bullpen for one goddamn hitter. We have lawyers who focus on JUST bankruptcy, or JUST criminal defense. But at the same time, we're required in academia to learn all this extra stuff (which is not BAD necessarily) like Art History, when we need to learn Business. Is Art going to help you? No, well maybe. But most likely not. Most likely, the college REQUIRES you to take this class so they can make a couple extra thou off you.
Now if you don't like the idea of the college possibly holding you back b/c they want to make an extra couple thou off you, then outsource (to WHOEVER, not necessarily me). If you got better things to do than write about Andy Warhol and Campbell soup cans, then outsource. If you want to get it done the old-fashioned way, and pick up some great information and lessons in the process, then do it yourself. Just realize that there are people out there who CHOOSE not to.
KKKKK PEACE
edit: Slaughter, you are the rare and delicate flower. You clearly enjoy spending time in the lab and doing research in your field. I humbly bow my head to you 98 degrees in respect. Doing what you want to do is the key to happiness, wouldn't you agree?
You're spending a lot of time trying to convince us it's ok, but I think you're still trying to convince yourself. ^^
You don't need a college degree to be successful, but you'll probably have to be brilliant in some capacity to succeed without one. Most of us aren't brilliant, and some people who are find that they can achieve even further by pursuing their education. The old paradigm has people getting specialized, the new one is diversity and requires people who can think on multiple levels; hence the rising success of liberal arts education.
Either way, the basis of your business is immoral; you're enabling people to take credit for work that isn't theirs. You can say that the rest of the world is immoral too blah blah blah, but that's only an indictment (and often an incorrect one) of other people's behavior, not a justification of your own. I don't think your parents or teachers ever let you get away with "but soandso did it also."
EDIT: I'm delighted that you've been polite so far. At least you can take criticism.
I had a lot of smarmy things to say, but I think you should just know that this thread is on page 1 of google. Now all your customers know that you are an ex-coke/whore pushing jackass. Congratulations
Thanks for pointing that out. Thanks to google analytics though (google is your friend not your enemy) I can see that NOBODY googles the fucking URL to my website.
I agree with shotz's overall message -- school is bullshit, and just because you have a degree doesn't actually mean your a smart person.
I think term papers are easy enough to write myself, but if the price was right and it was a guaranteed A or even B -- I see no shame in paying.
"Oh you didn't do the work, that's wrong"
What work? You mean wasting my time writing something that has nothing to do with how successful I'll be in my field? Writing something all day and night that's not even coming from me, but from a bunch of quoted materials and an opinion that I'm only forming because I know my instructor wants to hear it?
Now of course, I still believe you need an education in the field you are choosing in order to actually preform it (although there are exceptions...) -- but the education system loves to throw as much tedious shit at you as possible -- hoping they can make you fail.
Essays, pop quizes, and graded homework are just a few of those obstacles that are completely unnecessary IMO.
I still do them because I have to -- but it shouldn't feel like that.
I'm very disillusioned with academia. Not because I don't think it'll help me get a job, but because I think that it has nothing to do with learning/becoming better. My answer is you don't need to pay someone to write your essays. A monkey could do it, as long as they don't go out partying every night, and when it comes down to it you need to be able to do it in an exam room anyway to get your degree, so why not get some practice?
What I hate about your post though, is that you claim yourself to be successful. You sell drugs to hopeless addicts and perpetuate some of humanity's biggest threats. Selling cocaine doesn't make you a baller, it makes you a worm who sold out his own race for a little personal monetary gain/freedom. You're selfish and a dickhead.
Maybe I'm being overly moralistic here. Believe me, I don't really think there's any such thing as right and wrong. I just know that the world I live in is made less enjoyable by people like you, which naturally means I will disapprove.
Chef my man... the ONE thing I O NOT* claim to be is successful. THAT is one thing I can promise you on.
NO. Seriously. I'm not successful. Never wanted to be. Just wanted a goddamn break... Just want to be left alone. No fucking debt collectors (god) no fucking tow trucks, no one harrassing my family, just to be left alone, maybe buy a piece of land somewhere, get a job, grow some shit in a garden.... too much to ask?
On August 08 2009 16:17 Chef wrote: I'm very disillusioned with academia. Not because I don't think it'll help me get a job, but because I think that it has nothing to do with learning/becoming better. My answer is you don't need to pay someone to write your essays. A monkey could do it, as long as they don't go out partying every night, and when it comes down to it you need to be able to do it in an exam room anyway to get your degree, so why not get some practice?
What I hate about your post though, is that you claim yourself to be successful. You sell drugs to hopeless addicts and perpetuate some of humanity's biggest threats. Selling cocaine doesn't make you a baller, it makes you a worm who sold out his own race for a little personal monetary gain/freedom. You're selfish and a dickhead.
Maybe I'm being overly moralistic here. Believe me, I don't really think there's any such thing as right and wrong. I just know that the world I live in is made less enjoyable by people like you, which naturally means I will disapprove.
While he is part of a system that overall is a big cause of street violence -- he's technically just a guy taking advantage of stupid people.
I doubt he is trying persuade little children who don't know what drugs are to buy them.
It's basically like the tobacco industry -- is it really their fault that people choose to buy their products?
On August 08 2009 16:17 Chef wrote: I'm very disillusioned with academia. Not because I don't think it'll help me get a job, but because I think that it has nothing to do with learning/becoming better. My answer is you don't need to pay someone to write your essays. A monkey could do it, as long as they don't go out partying every night, and when it comes down to it you need to be able to do it in an exam room anyway to get your degree, so why not get some practice?
What I hate about your post though, is that you claim yourself to be successful. You sell drugs to hopeless addicts and perpetuate some of humanity's biggest threats. Selling cocaine doesn't make you a baller, it makes you a worm who sold out his own race for a little personal monetary gain/freedom. You're selfish and a dickhead.
Maybe I'm being overly moralistic here. Believe me, I don't really think there's any such thing as right and wrong. I just know that the world I live in is made less enjoyable by people like you, which naturally means I will disapprove.
While he is part of a system that overall is a big cause of street violence -- he's technically just a guy taking advantage of stupid people.
I doubt he is trying persuade little children who don't know what drugs are to buy them.
It's basically like the tobacco industry -- is it really their fault that people choose to buy their products?
Bad analogy here, for a long time, it was their fault - they had advertising budgets and campaigns to get people hooked on cigarettes, then commissioned studies "proving" that there weren't any health risks, or that cigarettes were even good for people. Hell, they didn't stop doing this until around the 1960's, and even then, they still aggressively marketed tobacco products to all sorts of people (including children).
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Still, I'm interested in knowing the answer to my question. OP, by what metric would you define yourself as "successful" by? Enjoying life? Monetarily? Learning?
On August 08 2009 16:17 Chef wrote: I'm very disillusioned with academia. Not because I don't think it'll help me get a job, but because I think that it has nothing to do with learning/becoming better. My answer is you don't need to pay someone to write your essays. A monkey could do it, as long as they don't go out partying every night, and when it comes down to it you need to be able to do it in an exam room anyway to get your degree, so why not get some practice?
What I hate about your post though, is that you claim yourself to be successful. You sell drugs to hopeless addicts and perpetuate some of humanity's biggest threats. Selling cocaine doesn't make you a baller, it makes you a worm who sold out his own race for a little personal monetary gain/freedom. You're selfish and a dickhead.
Maybe I'm being overly moralistic here. Believe me, I don't really think there's any such thing as right and wrong. I just know that the world I live in is made less enjoyable by people like you, which naturally means I will disapprove.
While he is part of a system that overall is a big cause of street violence -- he's technically just a guy taking advantage of stupid people.
I doubt he is trying persuade little children who don't know what drugs are to buy them.
It's basically like the tobacco industry -- is it really their fault that people choose to buy their products?
Bad analogy here, for a long time, it was their fault - they had advertising budgets and campaigns to get people hooked on cigarettes, then commissioned studies "proving" that there weren't any health risks, or that cigarettes were even good for people. Hell, they didn't stop doing this until around the 1960's, and even then, they still aggressively marketed tobacco products to all sorts of people (including children).
~~~
Still, I'm interested in knowing the answer to my question. OP, by what metric would you define yourself as "successful" by? Enjoying life? Monetarily? Learning?
The health risk of cigarettes is common knowledge though. Although the tobacco companies were wrong to sell a poisonous product to a unknowing populace before, I agree.
Persuading someone to start smoking isn't very easy anymore, and those who fall for it know very well of the consequences (that's written on the packs themselves).
While he is part of a system that overall is a big cause of street violence -- he's technically just a guy taking advantage of stupid people.
If I were to be sympathetic, I would not think of it that way at all. I would believe that his choices are 'live like shit and die miserable' or 'sell drugs and steal a little comfort for myself in an unjust and cruel world.' That I could understand, but it doesn't look to me like he lacked options. Financial aid may have screwed him over for a ridiculous top tier university, but someone who even has access to that is by no means screwed.
All I mean is... It's built in our genetics to want to perpetuate the human race; that's essentially what we've evolved to do. To me it's like going against your very being to commit atrocity except in the extreme case of life or death. I don't see how anyone can attain lasting happiness knowing they've betrayed themselves. I understand even less how someone can seem to brag about it.
On August 08 2009 16:31 Empyrean wrote: Still, I'm interested in knowing the answer to my question. OP, by what metric would you define yourself as "successful" by? Enjoying life? Monetarily? Learning?
He said he doesn't think he is. But his attitude seems to say otherwise.
On August 08 2009 16:17 Chef wrote: I'm very disillusioned with academia. Not because I don't think it'll help me get a job, but because I think that it has nothing to do with learning/becoming better. My answer is you don't need to pay someone to write your essays. A monkey could do it, as long as they don't go out partying every night, and when it comes down to it you need to be able to do it in an exam room anyway to get your degree, so why not get some practice?
What I hate about your post though, is that you claim yourself to be successful. You sell drugs to hopeless addicts and perpetuate some of humanity's biggest threats. Selling cocaine doesn't make you a baller, it makes you a worm who sold out his own race for a little personal monetary gain/freedom. You're selfish and a dickhead.
Maybe I'm being overly moralistic here. Believe me, I don't really think there's any such thing as right and wrong. I just know that the world I live in is made less enjoyable by people like you, which naturally means I will disapprove.
While he is part of a system that overall is a big cause of street violence -- he's technically just a guy taking advantage of stupid people.
I doubt he is trying persuade little children who don't know what drugs are to buy them.
It's basically like the tobacco industry -- is it really their fault that people choose to buy their products?
Bad analogy here, for a long time, it was their fault - they had advertising budgets and campaigns to get people hooked on cigarettes, then commissioned studies "proving" that there weren't any health risks, or that cigarettes were even good for people. Hell, they didn't stop doing this until around the 1960's, and even then, they still aggressively marketed tobacco products to all sorts of people (including children).
~~~
Still, I'm interested in knowing the answer to my question. OP, by what metric would you define yourself as "successful" by? Enjoying life? Monetarily? Learning?
The health risk of cigarettes is common knowledge though. Although the tobacco companies were wrong to sell a poisonous product to a unknowing populace before, I agree.
Persuading someone to start smoking isn't very easy anymore, and those who fall for it know very well of the consequences (that's written on the packs themselves).
Not back in the first half of the twentieth century it wasn't. Tobacco products weren't seen as harmful in any way, and often times tobacco companies would get doctor endorsements for their products. The tobacco companies themselves actually probably didn't really suspect how dangerous they were.
While he is part of a system that overall is a big cause of street violence -- he's technically just a guy taking advantage of stupid people.
If I were to be sympathetic, I would not think of it that way at all. I would believe that his choices are 'live like shit and die miserable' or 'sell drugs and steal a little comfort for myself in an unjust and cruel world.' That I could understand, but it doesn't look to me like he lacked options. Financial aid may have screwed him over for a ridiculous top tier university, but someone who even has access to that is by no means screwed.
All I mean is... It's built in our genetics to want to perpetuate the human race; that's essentially what we've evolved to do. To me it's like going against your very being to commit atrocity except in the extreme case of life or death. I don't see how anyone can attain lasting happiness knowing they've betrayed themselves. I understand even less how someone can seem to brag about it.
On August 08 2009 16:31 Empyrean wrote: Still, I'm interested in knowing the answer to my question. OP, by what metric would you define yourself as "successful" by? Enjoying life? Monetarily? Learning?
He said he doesn't think he is. But his attitude seems to say otherwise.
IMO I think the world is still far away from being able to come together under the one label of "humanity."
Oh, in his post he wrote "Chef my man... the ONE thing I claim to be is successful. THAT is one thing I can promise you on." but I see now that he edited the post later.
On August 08 2009 16:17 Chef wrote: I'm very disillusioned with academia. Not because I don't think it'll help me get a job, but because I think that it has nothing to do with learning/becoming better. My answer is you don't need to pay someone to write your essays. A monkey could do it, as long as they don't go out partying every night, and when it comes down to it you need to be able to do it in an exam room anyway to get your degree, so why not get some practice?
What I hate about your post though, is that you claim yourself to be successful. You sell drugs to hopeless addicts and perpetuate some of humanity's biggest threats. Selling cocaine doesn't make you a baller, it makes you a worm who sold out his own race for a little personal monetary gain/freedom. You're selfish and a dickhead.
Maybe I'm being overly moralistic here. Believe me, I don't really think there's any such thing as right and wrong. I just know that the world I live in is made less enjoyable by people like you, which naturally means I will disapprove.
While he is part of a system that overall is a big cause of street violence -- he's technically just a guy taking advantage of stupid people.
I doubt he is trying persuade little children who don't know what drugs are to buy them.
It's basically like the tobacco industry -- is it really their fault that people choose to buy their products?
Bad analogy here, for a long time, it was their fault - they had advertising budgets and campaigns to get people hooked on cigarettes, then commissioned studies "proving" that there weren't any health risks, or that cigarettes were even good for people. Hell, they didn't stop doing this until around the 1960's, and even then, they still aggressively marketed tobacco products to all sorts of people (including children).
~~~
Still, I'm interested in knowing the answer to my question. OP, by what metric would you define yourself as "successful" by? Enjoying life? Monetarily? Learning?
The health risk of cigarettes is common knowledge though. Although the tobacco companies were wrong to sell a poisonous product to a unknowing populace before, I agree.
Persuading someone to start smoking isn't very easy anymore, and those who fall for it know very well of the consequences (that's written on the packs themselves).
Not back in the first half of the twentieth century it wasn't. Tobacco products weren't seen as harmful in any way, and often times tobacco companies would get doctor endorsements for their products. The tobacco companies themselves actually probably didn't really suspect how dangerous they were.
Obviously it's not true today.
Yeah lol I already agreed with you on that part in my post =p
Well obviously no tobacco company's going to target children or aggressively push the public to smoke their cancer sticks. They'd be hit with so many suits it wouldn't be funny.
While he is part of a system that overall is a big cause of street violence -- he's technically just a guy taking advantage of stupid people.
If I were to be sympathetic, I would not think of it that way at all. I would believe that his choices are 'live like shit and die miserable' or 'sell drugs and steal a little comfort for myself in an unjust and cruel world.' That I could understand, but it doesn't look to me like he lacked options. Financial aid may have screwed him over for a ridiculous top tier university, but someone who even has access to that is by no means screwed.
All I mean is... It's built in our genetics to want to perpetuate the human race; that's essentially what we've evolved to do. To me it's like going against your very being to commit atrocity except in the extreme case of life or death. I don't see how anyone can attain lasting happiness knowing they've betrayed themselves. I understand even less how someone can seem to brag about it.
On August 08 2009 16:31 Empyrean wrote: Still, I'm interested in knowing the answer to my question. OP, by what metric would you define yourself as "successful" by? Enjoying life? Monetarily? Learning?
He said he doesn't think he is. But his attitude seems to say otherwise.
IMO I think the world is still far away from being able to come together under the one label of "humanity."
Although your thinking is noble.
Well I think eventually most people have a child, and that's when they realise that after they're dead, there's still something important to worry about. While you may not think of every human being has a part of what you want to preserve, you know that your child is going to have to deal with the long term consequences of what you do to these people. Of what other people like you might do to your child. Not because it's noble or self-sacrificing, but because it's what you're designed to do. It's why we're here today. I think anyone would be lying if they said they didn't want a good future for whomever they consider their kin, even if they weren't around. It's just how we're made, not any divine law. If there ever exists a generation of people who don't feel that way, I would call it the last generation
You maybe right... you may be right.... Maybe i'm just trying to steal a little comfort away from these hard-working ppl.
Again, I sincerely do not think I'm successful by ANY means. What I make now off this BULLSHit is not big doe. It's get by money.
Think of this way: my family has always been merchants. Now, what we sell is no longer wanted. I do NOT come from a middle class family, with a mortgage and a car loan.
I've been put into a situation where I need to do SOMETHING.
And that's what I'm trying to do. Sure, there are better stories out there. I don't really give a fuck.
Do I care whether I'm bringing down the total morality of the world? Am I really? I don't think so. I don't CHEAT anyone. I give them exactly what they pay for, which is GRADES. I don't fuck anyone over. I don't scam ppl for their money. Like Montana says, I'm no puta or a thief.
Maybe I'm wrong for what I do. Maybe you're right, and I'm wrong. But I SERIOUSLY do not have the capacity at the moment to think about that shit.
Like I've said, I've always wanted to be a fiction writer. It'd be nice if I had some nice inheritance to sit on and I can just sit around all day and write. But that's not where I'm at. I'm not mad at the world. I'm mad at academia for not letting me play it straight.
Maybe it's immaturity. Fuck it. The biggest sin for a young adult is to act more mature than his age (another Emerson concept).
Everyone can sit on their fucking pedastals and say "omg look at him, he's such a bad guy." Fine. Go ahead. In the end, it doesn't matter of which background I am and what socioeconomic step of the ladder I'm from. What matters is I try to be good, what I do is legal (definitely more so than what I did before) and I give ppl what they pay for.
Chef, I know you're a smart, stand up dude who speaks his mind and knows what he's talking about. But I think you're taking too much from the tone of my OP and not seeing it for what it really is.
You and I share disillusionment about academia. I chose one path to make it, you may have chosen another. Cest la vie.
Thanks for all your input guys, and embrace, I'm glad you concur on some of my points. But everyone is entitled to their own opinions--I expected nothing less when I posted.
What matters is I try to be good, what I do is legal (definitely more so than what I did before) and I give ppl what they pay for.
I'm sorry, I missed this. My only gripe really, is the drug selling. I can definitely appreciate if you're trying to be good, and live your life. Really, I don't care if you sell essays to people. It's things that literally alter the mind and can screw up people's lives forever that frighten me. I'm glad you have taken these comments with good will, it's definitely a virtue.
Would like to point out the fact that like the third sentence on your website is grammatically unsound, "Whether our client is a wide-eyed freshman surprised by the workload, or a four-year veteran simply with better things to do, we provide TOP-NOTCH writing by students and graduates of some of the world’s best educational institutions."
Oh this is wrong too, adjective needs to come before "paper writers,"
"However, our effort is not only in the quality of our writing, but the service in which we present it. Our service—e-mail progress reports, blog updates, accessibility—is unparalleled among other paper writers online."
I really don't give a shit if you write papers for other people, if they pay, if it's immoral, ethical, etc. I just care that you advertise yourself as some sort of extremely professional writer and it's clear you are not.
I really don't get it. Look at this shit that I found on some random link on your page: "Have you ever had your dad tell you, “yeah, college were the best years of my life,” then slyly wink at your blushing mom? There’s this notion that college is supposed to be this magical time of socializing, bonding and making a fodder for embarrassing family get-together stories years down the road."
Your first fucking sentence has a blatant dangling modifier. Any fucking professor or anyone is going to spot that shit instantly.
On August 08 2009 17:43 lilsusie wrote: After all this, I'm just wondering, did you post this to get more customers? I'm not sure what the point of this blog is...
On August 08 2009 15:56 eMbrace wrote: I agree with shotz's overall message -- school is bullshit, and just because you have a degree doesn't actually mean your a smart person.
I think term papers are easy enough to write myself, but if the price was right and it was a guaranteed A or even B -- I see no shame in paying.
"Oh you didn't do the work, that's wrong"
What work? You mean wasting my time writing something that has nothing to do with how successful I'll be in my field? Writing something all day and night that's not even coming from me, but from a bunch of quoted materials and an opinion that I'm only forming because I know my instructor wants to hear it?
Now of course, I still believe you need an education in the field you are choosing in order to actually preform it (although there are exceptions...) -- but the education system loves to throw as much tedious shit at you as possible -- hoping they can make you fail.
Essays, pop quizes, and graded homework are just a few of those obstacles that are completely unnecessary IMO.
I still do them because I have to -- but it shouldn't feel like that.
This post makes me think one of two things. Either 1) you've got bad professors. Regardless of how "prestigious" or high ranked your school is, professors who offer you nothing of relevance or expect regurgitated readings aren't doing their job. 2) you're a freshman or sophomore, and haven't taken upper level classes.
There's tedious shit at the lower levels to give you a baseline of information that you might not know you need (kids make this complaint about lower level math all the time, and they're wrong. It's also the professor's job to make sure you understand how it's important and continue connecting it as you move through material) and to weed out students who aren't serious. Some of the best economics programs in the country require their freshman/sophomores to take physics, because it's the best weedout class there is and you need a certain amount of brainpower to get by. That doesn't necessarily mean all 4 years will have have "useless" courses like that, and if they do then you picked the wrong major/school.
Just as an example, almost all of my classes now are graded on participation and 2-4 essays. No pop quizzes, no graded homework, and in a class with 13 other smart people, "participating" by repeating bullshit will get you torn apart, since part of our job is to find holes in the things we read.
There's tedious shit at the lower levels to give you a baseline of information that you might not know you need (kids make this complaint about lower level math all the time, and they're wrong.
Whoa really? I was too scared to take a math course in university because I thought it'd be too advanced since I didn't take any math in my last year of high school. If I knew it started with the basics, I might have given it a try.
There's tedious shit at the lower levels to give you a baseline of information that you might not know you need (kids make this complaint about lower level math all the time, and they're wrong.
Whoa really? I was too scared to take a math course in university because I thought it'd be too advanced since I didn't take any math in my last year of high school. If I knew it started with the basics, I might have given it a try.
I was talking about the high school level. o.o I always remember kids saying "I'll never need to know _______" but it turns out they're important to know, not just for later levels of math/science but in real life as well. At the college level, calc 101/2 is basically taught as Calc AB/BC is in highschool.
OP makes me happy that all graded work at my uni is written under exam conditions =p. Then again as a chem student I never write essays anyway. In general I would never cheat because a, I would never trust anyone else to do an equally good job, b I'm in school to learn/because I enjoy it, cheating kinda takes away the point. (maphacking on iccup? ) Stupid people cheating their way through uni is a (admitidly small) reason why a degree in and of itself doesnt mean anything anymore. If you can't handle the workload then you werent meant to be there =p.
Apart from that I must say that my more primitive side becomes very happy when someone with weak enough morals that he is prepared to sell women/drugs ends up getting kicked out of a good uni due to unfortunate circumstances.
There's tedious shit at the lower levels to give you a baseline of information that you might not know you need (kids make this complaint about lower level math all the time, and they're wrong.
Whoa really? I was too scared to take a math course in university because I thought it'd be too advanced since I didn't take any math in my last year of high school. If I knew it started with the basics, I might have given it a try.
I was talking about the high school level. o.o I always remember kids saying "I'll never need to know _______" but it turns out they're important to know, not just for later levels of math/science but in real life as well. At the college level, calc 101/2 is basically taught as Calc AB/BC is in highschool.
Hahah I was a bit like that: Calc 2 is all I'll ever need to know...OH SHIT, Maybe I need Linear algebra for my econ class, but that's definitely all I'll ever need to know...OH SHIT Now I need calc 3. and stat 400 for my new econ class, but that's definitely all.....NOOOOOOOOO!
There's tedious shit at the lower levels to give you a baseline of information that you might not know you need (kids make this complaint about lower level math all the time, and they're wrong.
Whoa really? I was too scared to take a math course in university because I thought it'd be too advanced since I didn't take any math in my last year of high school. If I knew it started with the basics, I might have given it a try.
I was talking about the high school level. o.o I always remember kids saying "I'll never need to know _______" but it turns out they're important to know, not just for later levels of math/science but in real life as well. At the college level, calc 101/2 is basically taught as Calc AB/BC is in highschool.
Hahah I was a bit like that: Calc 2 is all I'll ever need to know...OH SHIT, Maybe I need Linear algebra for my econ class, but that's definitely all I'll ever need to know...OH SHIT Now I need calc 3. and stat 400 for my new econ class, but that's definitely all.....NOOOOOOOOO!
Haha, I made it through calc 2 in college, but I HATED geometry in highschool. Now I find myself doing a lot of building/construction type stuff and it actually comes in handy irl. o.o I even end up thinking about physics a lot in every day stuff, which I never expected would happen when I was taking the class.
On August 08 2009 15:56 eMbrace wrote: I agree with shotz's overall message -- school is bullshit, and just because you have a degree doesn't actually mean your a smart person.
I think term papers are easy enough to write myself, but if the price was right and it was a guaranteed A or even B -- I see no shame in paying.
"Oh you didn't do the work, that's wrong"
What work? You mean wasting my time writing something that has nothing to do with how successful I'll be in my field? Writing something all day and night that's not even coming from me, but from a bunch of quoted materials and an opinion that I'm only forming because I know my instructor wants to hear it?
Now of course, I still believe you need an education in the field you are choosing in order to actually preform it (although there are exceptions...) -- but the education system loves to throw as much tedious shit at you as possible -- hoping they can make you fail.
Essays, pop quizes, and graded homework are just a few of those obstacles that are completely unnecessary IMO.
I still do them because I have to -- but it shouldn't feel like that.
This post makes me think one of two things. Either 1) you've got bad professors. Regardless of how "prestigious" or high ranked your school is, professors who offer you nothing of relevance or expect regurgitated readings aren't doing their job. 2) you're a freshman or sophomore, and haven't taken upper level classes.
There's tedious shit at the lower levels to give you a baseline of information that you might not know you need (kids make this complaint about lower level math all the time, and they're wrong. It's also the professor's job to make sure you understand how it's important and continue connecting it as you move through material) and to weed out students who aren't serious. Some of the best economics programs in the country require their freshman/sophomores to take physics, because it's the best weedout class there is and you need a certain amount of brainpower to get by. That doesn't necessarily mean all 4 years will have have "useless" courses like that, and if they do then you picked the wrong major/school.
Just as an example, almost all of my classes now are graded on participation and 2-4 essays. No pop quizzes, no graded homework, and in a class with 13 other smart people, "participating" by repeating bullshit will get you torn apart, since part of our job is to find holes in the things we read.
I think you misunderstood me.
I know kids love to complain about homework, essays, tests etc... -- that's not who I want to be grouped with.
1.) I think introducing students to multiple subjects of study is mandatory -- whether they plan on pursuing them or not because it gives them more opportunities to explore fields when they find out they actually don't want to become a fireman or a doctor -- it also may help them become more open-minded individuals and more knowledgeable of the world around them.
2.) My gripes are the portions of the American education system that are unnecessary -- and only make the whole process that much more tedious.
It's true I am only a sophomore at my university -- and I am by no means declaring that big term papers for high level classes aren't valuable experiences. In some cases, like you said, the papers are the whole point of the class.
So in that sense, sure --writing essays for low level classes is good practice and could be seen as necessary, although I honestly don't feel very smart when I write my big papers and receive A's on them.
Why? Because I'm writing for the teacher. What do teachers love? Cheesy anecdotes, metaphorical introductions, and lots of citing of other people's work. I get nauseous writing some of the garbage I do just to get an A. If you have a sound opinion backed by evidence that you can argue very well with others -- an essay is a great way to ruin the message of your views.
But perhaps these papers will help those in other fields such as history or english. And if you can't figure out how to look up sources and cite them (like all teachers assume) -- it's a good learning experience. So I guess I was a little pessimistic about the essay thing, they do in fact benefit students. I just don't think I personally need them, but the big points are always a nice bonus. That's why if they were cheap -- I'd buy an essay or two (of course, not at the OP's prices or even half that).
As for graded homework -- it's always been dumb. It's useful in elementary school because it teaches the importance of doing your studies before the tests come, but I'm an adult now -- do you really have to grade the way I choose to ace your tests?
Give me lots of homework, and let me schedule it into my study plan accordingly. Giving me deadlines so you can grade my study work is absolutely pointless and tedious. Homework helps poor students and annoys good students IMO.
Problem is -- the poor students don't do the homework anyways.
Lecture me, give my studying materials, and test me so I can show you that I understood your class.
Don't grade my homework, don't screw me over with pop quizzes, and if your going to be give me an essay -- it better be a topic that I can form a non-artificial opinion around.
For people who just need to get the degree for the promotion they want, then I would say if you can live with your conscience, then go for it. It's just comes down to whether the time you're saving is worth the 50 or 100 dollars you're spending. For those people a B- is good enough as well. Essays are usually BS anyways, and all you're really doing is practicing your writing. But essays aren't all there is to the education system. You're making contacts, and the concentration of people in your field gives you opportunities you aren't going to find anywhere else. As an engineering undergrad I've worked on race cars and satellites with other students. Lockheed Martin isn't going to let someone with a high school diploma anywhere near their satellites, but being in the education system means they will consider it.
And shotz, I have to question your obvious confidence in your success. You're probably very good at what you do; you may even be the best. But if you're too successful, people will start to take notice. And you WILL be shut down. It sounds like you're in a managerial position; do you really want to manage a business doomed to die? Even if you avoid that, you'll be stuck writing essays or managing a stunted business until you retire. I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound like a job I want. You're probably making a hell of a lot more than I am right now (I make negative amounts because of tuition) but come on, it's just money. What you're doing is glorified drug dealing - a little more legal, a little less profitable. I don't mean to be condescending. I just think you could utilize your skills in better ways.
On August 08 2009 15:56 eMbrace wrote: I agree with shotz's overall message -- school is bullshit, and just because you have a degree doesn't actually mean your a smart person.
I think term papers are easy enough to write myself, but if the price was right and it was a guaranteed A or even B -- I see no shame in paying.
"Oh you didn't do the work, that's wrong"
What work? You mean wasting my time writing something that has nothing to do with how successful I'll be in my field? Writing something all day and night that's not even coming from me, but from a bunch of quoted materials and an opinion that I'm only forming because I know my instructor wants to hear it?
Now of course, I still believe you need an education in the field you are choosing in order to actually preform it (although there are exceptions...) -- but the education system loves to throw as much tedious shit at you as possible -- hoping they can make you fail.
Essays, pop quizes, and graded homework are just a few of those obstacles that are completely unnecessary IMO.
I still do them because I have to -- but it shouldn't feel like that.
This post makes me think one of two things. Either 1) you've got bad professors. Regardless of how "prestigious" or high ranked your school is, professors who offer you nothing of relevance or expect regurgitated readings aren't doing their job. 2) you're a freshman or sophomore, and haven't taken upper level classes.
There's tedious shit at the lower levels to give you a baseline of information that you might not know you need (kids make this complaint about lower level math all the time, and they're wrong. It's also the professor's job to make sure you understand how it's important and continue connecting it as you move through material) and to weed out students who aren't serious. Some of the best economics programs in the country require their freshman/sophomores to take physics, because it's the best weedout class there is and you need a certain amount of brainpower to get by. That doesn't necessarily mean all 4 years will have have "useless" courses like that, and if they do then you picked the wrong major/school.
Just as an example, almost all of my classes now are graded on participation and 2-4 essays. No pop quizzes, no graded homework, and in a class with 13 other smart people, "participating" by repeating bullshit will get you torn apart, since part of our job is to find holes in the things we read.
I think you misunderstood me.
I know kids love to complain about homework, essays, tests etc... -- that's not who I want to be grouped with.
1.) I think introducing students to multiple subjects of study is mandatory -- whether they plan on pursuing them or not because it gives them more opportunities to explore fields when they find out they actually don't want to become a fireman or a doctor -- it also may help them become more open-minded individuals and more knowledgeable of the world around them.
2.) My gripes are the portions of the American education system that are unnecessary -- and only make the whole process that much more tedious.
It's true I am only a sophomore at my university -- and I am by no means declaring that big term papers for high level classes aren't valuable experiences. In some cases, like you said, the papers are the whole point of the class.
So in that sense, sure --writing essays for low level classes is good practice and could be seen as necessary, although I honestly don't feel very smart when I write my big papers and receive A's on them.
Why? Because I'm writing for the teacher. What do teachers love? Cheesy anecdotes, metaphorical introductions, and lots of citing of other people's work. I get nauseous writing some of the garbage I do just to get an A. If you have a sound opinion backed by evidence that you can argue very well with others -- an essay is a great way to ruin the message of your views.
But perhaps these papers will help those in other fields such as history or english. And if you can't figure out how to look up sources and cite them (like all teachers assume) -- it's a good learning experience. So I guess I was a little pessimistic about the essay thing, they do in fact benefit students. I just don't think I personally need them, but the big points are always a nice bonus. That's why if they were cheap -- I'd buy an essay or two (of course, not at the OP's prices or even half that).
As for graded homework -- it's always been dumb. It's useful in elementary school because it teaches the importance of doing your studies before the tests come, but I'm an adult now -- do you really have to grade the way I choose to ace your tests?
Give me lots of homework, and let me schedule it into my study plan accordingly. Giving me deadlines so you can grade my study work is absolutely pointless and tedious. Homework helps poor students and annoys good students IMO.
Problem is -- the poor students don't do the homework anyways.
Lecture me, give my studying materials, and test me so I can show you that I understood your class.
Don't grade my homework, don't screw me over with pop quizzes, and if your going to be give me an essay -- it better be a topic that I can form a non-artificial opinion around.
What's your major? I understand your complaint better now, but I think a lot of it has to do with the logistics of trying to teach an entire class. A lot of the early paper work you're doing is simply learning how to write papers- how to do research, how to make logical deductions, how to hypothesize without assuming (huge issue), etc. Unfortunately, I bet the rest of your classmates are a lot dumber than you, but the professor has to grade appropriately for the entire class. I'm not sure what your major is or what classes you've got gripes with, but I bet things will improve your next two years. Either the material will get more specific, or you'll start to get grilled a lot harder on the material and hopefully will be forced to make statements that were never mentioned in the reading or by the professor.
I had a Modern Chinese History class last semester (semi-unrelated to my major) that was only a 200 level, but the teacher tore me apart on papers, even as a junior that's used to straight 4s on 300 and 400 poli sci/philosophy papers. I still finished with a 3.7 in the class and I learned a lot, but I'm mostly grateful for all the red ink she put on my papers. Hopefully you'll get someone like that, where you really do have to reach to get a good grade.
I'm kind of curious just what kind of cheesy stuff you were getting As for.
EDIT: I guess this all kind of relates to shotz' business. There are people who do work to learn and improve, and there are people who are simply grade whores. It's an alluring trap, but ultimately I have faith that being a grade whore doesn't get you jack shit. Some people get away with it, but that doesn't mean they're actually good at what they do. I've had a few classmates like that and I don't respect their work (coincidentally they're all going to law school and all got wait listed from their main choices.) Shit like the LSAT/GRE encourage it, but luckily most of the grad schools I'm applying to emphasize my personal essay over grades/scores. And there's no fucking way shotz can write a better personal essay for me than I can.
Why are some people calling him arrogant? If he puts that much effort in his work and believes in it why shouldn't he say he is writting top quality shit. He probably is. Unlike most of the people posting here that are frustrated with their lives and don't do anything to change it you found something you really like to do. Good luck, cool story, nice read.
This really boils down to a problem with our education system in my opinion. Too many people are going to university. You need atleast four years to get most jobs and its just being used as a test to make sure you're half-way competent and willing to put in some work. Its a huge waste of time and resources I think. I love school myself, I'm going into my fourth year pure math and don't think I'll see the end of academia for many years. I wouldn't get something written for me because I like learning stuff and I think thats how many of us here feel. However, lots of people are only going to university to get a job and it really is a stupid system. Grades are a very poor measurment of learning and its easy to cheat the system. I hope your services become unnecessary as we stop forcing people through an undergraduate degree for little reason, or a bit more useless(to the student) education to get some promotion.
The quality of writing and thought in the samples sucks balls honestly. I want to see papers on Moltke's level--then I can decline the service on the basis of integrity and training rather than contempt for such half-assed garbage.
edit: Now that I think about it, you used to employ women to suck balls. Now you employ writers to do the same.
On August 11 2009 14:14 Etherone wrote: as for the morality of this, you are in no way immoral, you provide a helpful service. The immoral ones are your clients.
I'd never pay for an essay because I just don't feel like it's necessary. I'd rather fail and learn from my mistakes than pay for an easy way out. But nothing against your business. I just dislike how this post was some what of a huge advertisement for it.
What are the goal of people's life? Some people live for money, some for stability, others want power and fame, and the rest of us want knowledge.
People are self-fish ( the whole concept of forming a society is so that individuals can benefit from it), morality is just distorted images society see people through the thick glasses of their social standard. People will do whatever they can to achieve their goal. At the end, morality doesn't matter for the ones who took action, no moral justification is needed while they are committing the act in question.
for those of us who pursuits knowledge, the "truly wanna know it alls" we don't have the luxury to have someone write our papers for us, because that contradicts with our goals of life. It has nothing to do with morality. it has everything to do with the reason why we want to learn something, it is all about motivation. We get our PhDs because we find that subject interesting, not because we needed the PhDs to feed ourselves.
oh and Jibba when you point out someone failed in logic, please do enlighten them by explain how they failed in logic.
Well i couldnt read all of the thread especially because your posting style
but i prob share a lot of your sentiments about academia. i also give you a lot of props for figuring your shit out and running what i hope to is a successful business. to an extent, there is no morality in business. you provide a service that is in demand, that's all. you are sort of a douche in some posts, but whatever that's been addressed enough, and I'm writing this as someone who's trying to win this game as well, without the need of badges.
On August 09 2009 10:37 eMbrace wrote: Don't grade my homework, don't screw me over with pop quizzes, and if your going to be give me an essay -- it better be a topic that I can form a non-artificial opinion around.
Different people learn in different ways. Everyone has a different definition of artificial. You can't expect a learning system totally tailored to your standards, and you can't defy it because of this failure.
to shotz: What I don't get is the inconsistency in the moral standards of people on TL. When you hear about some guy pushing (hard) drugs and women, actively degrading life around him, you don't really give a shit for the most part. On the other hand, on this same forum, I see people calling out cheaters and telling each other things like cheating is so fundamentally contradictory to the fabric of the starcraft community that it should be punished by totally expunging the offending member from the community.
Life is like starcraft. People enter with different background and different levels of prior training, but what you do is your beef and if you lose, deal with it...don't try to cheat. Just because you lose a game that you should have won, that you really really thought you had, does not give you any excuse to maphack next time so you know what's up. "Cheating" so is so fundamentally contradictory to the fabric of society (referring to your drug dealing and pimping past) that it warrants serious reevaluation of life (if you're not caught and forced to reevaluate) and by continuing your defiance of the systems you callously insert yourself into, you have shown that you have not reevaluated. Moreover, it seems you feel confident in your life choices (except the pimping...but that does not make that ok), and even refer to other people on this forum with names that trivialize the legitimacy of their thought (they can be thought of as fond or degrading but i don't care what you were thinking, they came off as degrading and as a semi literate human being you should have caught that and rectified the situation). And finally, you come here pitching your service to us. Disgusting.
To those who say moral standards are of course not objective or definable or fair in any way, I say that society is dependent on the maintenance of certain standards of living defined generally by the overwhelming cultural consensus in a nation occasionally manipulated by the government through law; violation of this consensus to fulfill foolish notions of "individuality" is extremely counterproductive. If you hold different morals or wish to be an individual, go live on a collective or some hippie organic love farm or something.
To those who say moral standards are of course not objective or definable or fair in any way, I say that society is dependent on the maintenance of certain standards of living defined generally by the overwhelming cultural consensus in a nation occasionally manipulated by the government through law; violation of this consensus to fulfill foolish notions of "individuality" is extremely counterproductive. If you hold different morals or wish to be an individual, go live on a collective or some hippie organic love farm or something.
Majority wins. Individuality loses By far perhaps the most misguided reply to my post I've seen--so I had to respond.
And if a hippie organic love farm existed, you def. wouldn't be invited. We'd probably smoke pot and make fun of the way you talk.
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