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Name DX10 games let along DX10.1 most games where DX9 with DX10 features and there are only like 5 games that support DX10.1 and DX11 is right around the comer.
DX10.1 is not a performance boost only in DX10.1 games which again are lol wut...Larrabee unless intel found like the holy grail of truth x86 is going to fail so hard it's just going to be sad.
Also you don't compaire a 4850 to a 9800GT you compare it to a 9800GTX, GTX+, GTS250. Which don't run as cheap as the discontinued 4850.
ATI and Nvidia will be release DX11 capable cards late this year... Only at the end of August when Win 7 comes out will DX11 even be realivent. Along with that Games wont be release until about July if you know the industry. And most of those games will probably be the same old with DX11 features.
True Nvidia is behind by about a month on their release of GT300 chips. Due to a problem with the early silicon, but by supposed TSMC orders also.
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So this is what looks like my new pc.
about €1560
GPU (PCIe) XFX GTX285 Black Edition
CPU Intel; i7 920
CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS10X Extreme
PSU Cooler Master RealPower M620
Case Thermaltake SopranoRS 100
DVD-Burner Sony Optiarc AD-7200A
Case-fan Zalman ZM-F3
Mobo Asus Rampage II Extrem
HDD (SATA) Western Digital 1000 gb
GeiL 6 GB DDR3-1333 Tri-Kit 2x
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit + Voucher
Weblink - Dutch - http://www.alternate.nl/html/tu.html?sc=-1509422972
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On July 26 2009 06:45 Mutaahh wrote:So this is what looks like my new pc. about €1560 GPU (PCIe) XFX GTX285 Black Edition CPU Intel; i7 920 CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS10X Extreme PSU Cooler Master RealPower M620 Case Thermaltake SopranoRS 100 DVD-Burner Sony Optiarc AD-7200A Case-fan Zalman ZM-F3 Mobo Asus Rampage II Extrem HDD (SATA) Western Digital 1000 gb GeiL 6 GB DDR3-1333 Tri-Kit 2x Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit + Voucher Weblink - Dutch - http://www.alternate.nl/html/tu.html?sc=-1509422972
Looks great, although you may want to get more than one case fan. While one is generally passable, two or three can make a big (~20 degree) difference in temperature.
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I have a 08 macbook--i doubt it is gonna run sc2
however I am gonna buy a new pc when sc2 and window 7 comes out.
here are my questions
1. what size of monitor do you think I should get? I leaning towards 20 inch? Any reason I should get HDMI equipped ones?
2. what kind of video card i should get?
3. what operating system u guys gonna be using? window xp or vista, or wait to upgrade to window 7 for sc2?
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On July 26 2009 07:42 gloryofgreece wrote:
I have a 08 macbook--i doubt it is gonna run sc2
however I am gonna buy a new pc when sc2 and window 7 comes out.
here are my questions
1. what size of monitor do you think I should get? I leaning towards 20 inch? Any reason I should get HDMI equipped ones?
2. what kind of video card i should get?
3. what operating system u guys gonna be using? window xp or vista, or wait to upgrade to window 7 for sc2?
1. Honestly, the size of the monitor doesn't matter, its the resolution. I've said this thousands of times, but a 19" CRT monitor is 1792x1344, which is far over HD, whereas a 19" LCD is commonly 1280x1024 OR 1920x1080, both of which are barely HD. In direct contradiction to what i said, 1920x1080 monitors are rather cheap atm so go ahead and buy one.
2. Honestly it depends on your uses. If your only doing a little bit of gaming sprinkled over work etc, a radeon 4850 OR 3870 are both great choices with varying prices. If you're doing some mild-moderate gaming, like most people, go with either a radeon 4870/4870 (differing prices) OR an 8800 GTS/GTX 260 (differing prices) .
3. Doesn't matter. XP is outdated, although some diehards/people who can't upgrade use it. People talk about how bad vista is but when XP first came out i can remember people bitching about it for a couple years too, and most of them stuck with a previous version of windows for a sad amount of time. I'm currently downloading Windows 7 to try out, but if you MUST avoid vista at all costs its either Windows 7 or Linux.
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On July 26 2009 09:43 ghermination wrote:
whereas a 19" LCD is commonly 1280x1024 OR 1920x1080
19" is most commonly 1440x900, with older ones being 1280x1024. 1920x1080 is non-standard and when seen, is most commonly 30".
On July 26 2009 06:45 Mutaahh wrote:So this is what looks like my new pc. about €1560 GPU (PCIe) XFX GTX285 Black Edition CPU Intel; i7 920 CPU Cooler Zalman CNPS10X Extreme PSU Cooler Master RealPower M620 Case Thermaltake SopranoRS 100 DVD-Burner Sony Optiarc AD-7200A Case-fan Zalman ZM-F3 Mobo Asus Rampage II Extrem HDD (SATA) Western Digital 1000 gb GeiL 6 GB DDR3-1333 Tri-Kit 2x Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit + Voucher Weblink - Dutch - http://www.alternate.nl/html/tu.html?sc=-1509422972
The Zalman looks good, and $65 (lowest price I found) is decent. Could maybe go cheaper for just as much quality. I got my i7 heatsink/fan for $55 right when the socket hit the market, and it has never gotten anywhere near overheating.
I haven't heard of GeiL until you mentioned it in your post, and that's not really a good sign. Even if it had some customer reviews (if it does, I can't find them), it'd still be too new to know the lifespan of their products. I'd recommend this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227365
The case is good, though I'm not sure about that side vent placement. Might have to move it if it gets in the way of the CPU cooler. I disagree with the other guy about getting one more fan, because I don't see anywhere you could put it. One on the side, maybe, but that wouldn't help airflow regardless of direction.
The motherboard - I guess it'd be worth it if you really want that onboard x-fi. Though, I can guarantee you it's not the same quality as a PCI card. It's probably one of x-fi's cheaper chipsets. Anyway, if you have common sense, you'll go with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131386
It's the same board... except it's not black. Trust me, all of those Super Xtreme-Z etc boards are just money-sucks. They're for people who may not know better.
The video card is a good decision if your monitor is 22" or more. Otherwise, the GTX 260 (216c) or HD4870 are ultimately more sensible.
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Posting my rig (to brag or whatever):
Motherboard: Asus P5Q Pro
CPU: Intel C2Q Q9550
Graphics card: Radeon HD 4870
4GB of RAM, this kind.
650W power supply
Vista 64-bit
I'm expecting this to run SC2 at full specs with no problem. If not, I'll get another gfx card. They're dirt cheap anyways. ($150 lol)
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i have a 22" monitor, 1680 x 1050 resolution. Best monitor ever haha. it is way awesome.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009145
and for operating systems, if you are going to be getting this computer before october, then i'd go vista ultimate. I built my computer about a month ago, and it is running vista ultimate, no complaints yet. Once October runs around, however, I'm gonna be upgrading to windows 7. I'm still confused on upgrading, but I just googled this and its nice.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1184
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@ Saddened Izzy: Yea, my bad, you're right. I read up on it again and I misread it lol... only makes difference on DX10.1 supported games and programs.
However, I still disagree w/ you on Intel's Larrabee. I've read that vendors are becoming quite annoyed w/ NVidia and AMD for their new DX11 gfx cards because the design of the GT300 and RV800 both are extremely flexible. Meaning that it takes much longer and much more resources for the vendors to tweak the original NVidia card and hone it into their product.
I've also read that those angered/annoyed/etc. vendors are looking toward Intel's Larrabee because of its flexible layout and design. If those vendors are taking a look at Larrabee, I'm sure you can get an idea of how "bad" it is, or how good it is.
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1920x1080 is standard 1080p TV resolution --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg
You might have a hard time finding PC games that support it, since it's not VGA standard. I don't know this for certain, just guessing.
But my main point was that 1920x1080 definitely isn't a 19" res. Such a monitor doesn't exist.
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GPU: gtx 260 16 core
CPU: Intel core duo E6750 2.66
RAM: 4 gigs
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit
Monitor: 24 inch 1920 by 1200
Sigh Can't wait to see SC2 on this computer  .
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i like how this thread is based entirely off speculation. i understand that people can get a "feel" for what the req specs might be but i hope no one is taking any consultation in this thread too seriously.
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What is the cheapest Core 2 duo that may be able to run SC2?
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On July 26 2009 18:32 Garnet wrote:
What is the cheapest Core 2 duo that may be able to run SC2?
E5200? I dunno, most of them should be fine, except for the old ~1.6-2.0ghz ones, while 2.0ghz may be playable i say go for higher than that to be sure (2.2 obv)
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Geforce 8400GS or 9400GT?
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Here is mine:
XP 32-bit SP2 (will be ok?)
Asus P5KC
Intel Core Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz
2 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Samsung 500GB
It costed me around 800€ 1.5 year ago. I think I will run sc2 with no issues.
On July 26 2009 16:34 blade55555 wrote:GPU: gtx 260 16 core CPU: Intel core duo E6750 2.66 RAM: 4 gigs OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit Monitor: 24 inch 1920 by 1200 Sigh Can't wait to see SC2 on this computer .
You should get Vista 64 bit to get the most out of ram. Currently you are getting just 2 GB.
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On July 26 2009 19:37 Garnet wrote:
Geforce 8400GS or 9400GT?
Neither will play games well. I'd be surprised if you could play Warcraft III, as those are basically 'multimedia' cards.
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On July 26 2009 19:37 Garnet wrote:
Geforce 8400GS or 9400GT?
8400 GS is pci (and pci-e x1), whereas 9400 is pci-e 2.0 x16. While its not exactly an amazing card it should have more bandwidth and thus be better. If you really want to play on even mid settings i'd recommend just picking up a 3850/3870, their pretty cheap right now even though they were the better cards for their generation. Another step up from the is the 4850 which is also really cheap right now.
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On July 27 2009 01:48 ghermination wrote:8400 GS is pci (and pci-e x1), whereas 9400 is pci-e 2.0 x16. While its not exactly an amazing card it should have more bandwidth and thus be better. If you really want to play on even mid settings i'd recommend just picking up a 3850/3870, their pretty cheap right now even though they were the better cards for their generation. Another step up from the is the 4850 which is also really cheap right now.
The interface makes no difference whatsoever. I guarantee the 9400GT wouldn't be limited in bandwidth by standard PCI-E. They just made sure all cards were updated to 2.0 because that's what consumers want. Yes, the 9400 would be the better of the two, but like I said it wouldn't matter because neither are meant to play games.
I don't know why you're replying to me. I'm not the one who's asking the question.
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