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On July 14 2009 10:15 NeVeR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2009 02:33 -orb- wrote:On July 13 2009 07:30 Pape wrote:On July 13 2009 05:55 -orb- wrote:I've made some modifications since this picture was taken (such as the fact that I have 5 hard drives now in the hard drive rack instead of 1), but here's my computer: + Show Spoiler +I built the case from scratch myself out of 2'x2' acrylic panels and 6' angle steel stock. Had to cut the angle steel, miter it, drill holes in the angle steel and the acrylic with holes that line up, drill holes using a hole saw for the fans, cut holes using an angle grinder for the back I/O area and the CD drive etc. I think I made a blog post about it a while back. It's my baby, I love it. Also in those pictures I didn't have the front or top panels on.... I was still working on it at the time. looks way cooler closed up! What kind of engine you got in that thing? WOW! thats like triple liquid cooling with 20 fans, an air conditioning machine and a computer both in one. Heck you probably have freon running in the tubes lol! Well the internal parts (by that I mean like the computer parts like the mobo/cpu etc) were bought like 2 years ago in a normal case, then I built the case and water cooling last year, and just recently I bought new hardware for the cpu/mobo/gpu/ram, which will be an i7 950, asus striker II, bfg gtx295 WCOCWBE (lol) I still can't get over how crazy your comp is. Show nested quote +On July 13 2009 21:42 ghermination wrote:On July 13 2009 21:18 NeVeR wrote:
OS: Windows XP
CPU: Intel Pentium 4, 2.6 GHz (dual core)
Mobo: No idea what this is...
Memory: 1GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 (128MB)
Hard Drive: Not sure, but I think it's 80GB maybe?
PSU: No idea what this is...
Do you guys think I'll be able to run SC2 smoothly on the lowest settings with this set-up? Hmm, well the dual core should see you through the gameplay just fine as there supposedly aren't going to be game altering physics in the engine, and the RAM is probably a little low but i think it may be fine, although if you could another 1gb would NOT hurt. I really don't think the FX 5700 will even get close to running any modern games, might want to go with a cheap 512mb card, although maybe you'll get lucky and be able to run SC 2. No promises. My advice is just to buy a new (3-400 USD, easily) computer, because upgrading yours would be far too much hassle. Hmm, okay. I'm kind of broke right now since I just spent most of my money on a beta key through ebay. Hopefully I'll be able to save up enough before the beta's release. Where do you guys recommend buying from? Any particular brands that are reputable for gaming and not overpriced?
http://www.newegg.com/ best place to buy parts
Its probably a good time to do a complete upgrade, but if you want to stay cheap I'd get at least 2GB ram, and a better video card, do you have pci express or an agp slot?
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I like the OP like to get the best deals for my money, problem is I usually don't have a lot of money, so I like to take yesterdays technology and build a budget system that will let me enjoy todays games in medium to high settings and also enjoy tomorrows games on at least medium settings.
This is my current budget system I built for around $800(just parts not including the Antec 900 Case I also purchased with some lights because I am that kind of geek) ~ a year ago(except for the recent change from an 8800GT to a Radeon 4870).
#Vista Ultimate 32x
#AMD 64x Dual-Core 5800+ 3.0 GHZ
#Some random Mother Board I ripped out from a Acer T180
#ATI Radeon 4870 512 meg
#4 Gigs Ram(PC2-6400)
#Two 250 gig Sata Drives(7200/5400)
#Vista Score 5.4
Edit-Forgot my MOBO
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On July 14 2009 13:25 jjun212 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2009 03:34 Beachac wrote:
Operating System: Windows Vista
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz
RAM: 3.2 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Do you guys think I'll be able to run starcraft on max?
yea for sure, im not sure about all the 4800 cards but 4850 and up should run it max
Should i break out da teir list for you in terms of power?
Although usually the newer series will prefer better due to driver optimizations for newer games tend to only be fore the newer chips.
OFC these teiring is more of a general thing some things will def max out earlier on lower resolutions etc and just becuase they are about the same doesn't make it the same a GTX275 is about 15% better but about 30% more costly?
Teir 1: GTX295
Teir 2: HD 4870 X2
Tier 3: GTX 280, GTX 285, HD 4850 X2
Teir 4: 9800 GX2, GTX 260, GTX 275, HD 4870, HD 4890
Teir 5: 8800 Ultra, 9800 GTX, 9800 GTX+, GTS 250, HD 3870 X2, HD 4850
Teir 6: 8800 GTX, 8800 GTS 512 MB, HD 4770
(Higher resolution max outs) 24-30fps (It's an rts...)
Teir 7: 8800 GT 512 MB, 9800 GT, HD 4830
Teir 8: 8800 GTS 640 MB, 9600 GT, HD 2900 XT, HD 3870
(Imo this and up is where i think sc2 should max out at round 1680x1050 1280x1024 etc lower resolutions)
Teir 9: 8800 GS, 9600 GSO, HD 3850 512 MB, HD 4670
Teir 10: 8800 GT 256 MB, 8800 GTS 320 MB, HD 2900 PRO, HD 3850 256 MB
That's about 3 years old anything older you should just be happy to run it, although with pixel shader etc haha you should be happy.
Anything else like 9500 GT isn't considered a gaming card (so it doesn't come up so much)enough for me to remember it in relation to other cards etc. Just take a look at it like this if you see you card and is low profile (Ie short like a normal card is just about same height wise to a diameter of a cd length of avg card depends on card higher end cards then to be 8+ inches long "that's what she said") you are screwed. If not and it's recent 9000's for nvidia or 200's and 4000's and 3000's for ATI you probably will be fine in playing the game.
Laptop GPU are harder.
In general for ATI the number for the laptop is about equal to the number on the desktop.
For Nvidia the numbers for laptop and desktop gpu's are more of relation of chip then actual power. In other words you have to look it up yourself.
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On July 14 2009 13:31 Klapdout wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2009 10:15 NeVeR wrote:On July 14 2009 02:33 -orb- wrote:On July 13 2009 07:30 Pape wrote:On July 13 2009 05:55 -orb- wrote:I've made some modifications since this picture was taken (such as the fact that I have 5 hard drives now in the hard drive rack instead of 1), but here's my computer: + Show Spoiler +I built the case from scratch myself out of 2'x2' acrylic panels and 6' angle steel stock. Had to cut the angle steel, miter it, drill holes in the angle steel and the acrylic with holes that line up, drill holes using a hole saw for the fans, cut holes using an angle grinder for the back I/O area and the CD drive etc. I think I made a blog post about it a while back. It's my baby, I love it. Also in those pictures I didn't have the front or top panels on.... I was still working on it at the time. looks way cooler closed up! What kind of engine you got in that thing? WOW! thats like triple liquid cooling with 20 fans, an air conditioning machine and a computer both in one. Heck you probably have freon running in the tubes lol! Well the internal parts (by that I mean like the computer parts like the mobo/cpu etc) were bought like 2 years ago in a normal case, then I built the case and water cooling last year, and just recently I bought new hardware for the cpu/mobo/gpu/ram, which will be an i7 950, asus striker II, bfg gtx295 WCOCWBE (lol) I still can't get over how crazy your comp is. On July 13 2009 21:42 ghermination wrote:On July 13 2009 21:18 NeVeR wrote:
OS: Windows XP
CPU: Intel Pentium 4, 2.6 GHz (dual core)
Mobo: No idea what this is...
Memory: 1GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 (128MB)
Hard Drive: Not sure, but I think it's 80GB maybe?
PSU: No idea what this is...
Do you guys think I'll be able to run SC2 smoothly on the lowest settings with this set-up? Hmm, well the dual core should see you through the gameplay just fine as there supposedly aren't going to be game altering physics in the engine, and the RAM is probably a little low but i think it may be fine, although if you could another 1gb would NOT hurt. I really don't think the FX 5700 will even get close to running any modern games, might want to go with a cheap 512mb card, although maybe you'll get lucky and be able to run SC 2. No promises. My advice is just to buy a new (3-400 USD, easily) computer, because upgrading yours would be far too much hassle. Hmm, okay. I'm kind of broke right now since I just spent most of my money on a beta key through ebay. Hopefully I'll be able to save up enough before the beta's release. Where do you guys recommend buying from? Any particular brands that are reputable for gaming and not overpriced? http://www.newegg.com/ best place to buy parts Its probably a good time to do a complete upgrade, but if you want to stay cheap I'd get at least 2GB ram, and a better video card, do you have pci express or an agp slot?
I have no idea what those are..  Also, I have no idea how to install computer parts. Will that website do the installation for you?
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On July 14 2009 16:56 NeVeR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2009 13:31 Klapdout wrote:On July 14 2009 10:15 NeVeR wrote:On July 14 2009 02:33 -orb- wrote:On July 13 2009 07:30 Pape wrote:On July 13 2009 05:55 -orb- wrote:I've made some modifications since this picture was taken (such as the fact that I have 5 hard drives now in the hard drive rack instead of 1), but here's my computer: + Show Spoiler +I built the case from scratch myself out of 2'x2' acrylic panels and 6' angle steel stock. Had to cut the angle steel, miter it, drill holes in the angle steel and the acrylic with holes that line up, drill holes using a hole saw for the fans, cut holes using an angle grinder for the back I/O area and the CD drive etc. I think I made a blog post about it a while back. It's my baby, I love it. Also in those pictures I didn't have the front or top panels on.... I was still working on it at the time. looks way cooler closed up! What kind of engine you got in that thing? WOW! thats like triple liquid cooling with 20 fans, an air conditioning machine and a computer both in one. Heck you probably have freon running in the tubes lol! Well the internal parts (by that I mean like the computer parts like the mobo/cpu etc) were bought like 2 years ago in a normal case, then I built the case and water cooling last year, and just recently I bought new hardware for the cpu/mobo/gpu/ram, which will be an i7 950, asus striker II, bfg gtx295 WCOCWBE (lol) I still can't get over how crazy your comp is. On July 13 2009 21:42 ghermination wrote:On July 13 2009 21:18 NeVeR wrote:
OS: Windows XP
CPU: Intel Pentium 4, 2.6 GHz (dual core)
Mobo: No idea what this is...
Memory: 1GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 (128MB)
Hard Drive: Not sure, but I think it's 80GB maybe?
PSU: No idea what this is...
Do you guys think I'll be able to run SC2 smoothly on the lowest settings with this set-up? Hmm, well the dual core should see you through the gameplay just fine as there supposedly aren't going to be game altering physics in the engine, and the RAM is probably a little low but i think it may be fine, although if you could another 1gb would NOT hurt. I really don't think the FX 5700 will even get close to running any modern games, might want to go with a cheap 512mb card, although maybe you'll get lucky and be able to run SC 2. No promises. My advice is just to buy a new (3-400 USD, easily) computer, because upgrading yours would be far too much hassle. Hmm, okay. I'm kind of broke right now since I just spent most of my money on a beta key through ebay. Hopefully I'll be able to save up enough before the beta's release. Where do you guys recommend buying from? Any particular brands that are reputable for gaming and not overpriced? http://www.newegg.com/ best place to buy parts Its probably a good time to do a complete upgrade, but if you want to stay cheap I'd get at least 2GB ram, and a better video card, do you have pci express or an agp slot? I have no idea what those are.. Also, I have no idea how to install computer parts. Will that website do the installation for you?
you open your comp and take old parts out and put new in, its like lego... no kidding - atleast for RAM, graphic card, hard drive... a 10 year old could do it
as for pci or agp... say what is your graphic card.
if you dont know which one is it - go right click on my computer -> properties -> hardware -> device manager ->display adapter and there it says what graphic card you have
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On July 14 2009 20:47 CROrens wrote:
you open your comp and take old parts out and put new in, its like lego... no kidding - atleast for RAM, graphic card, hard drive... a 10 year old could do it
as for pci or agp... say what is your graphic card.
if you dont know which one is it - go right click on my computer -> properties -> hardware -> device manager ->display adapter and there it says what graphic card you have
While it is very easy to install computer hardware, some things to remember is to ground yourself before going into your computer and don't do it on carpet unless you're very experienced. While its not necessarily one wrong move and your system gets fried, if you happen to be on carpet and get enough static electricity going your system will get fried, and your new part/whole computer becomes a nice big paper weight.
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There are thousands of tutorials on installing parts, also it appears no-one even noticed my gigantic post about building an sc-2 capable computer back on page 8 @_@
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Does anyone know what the supported OS's are?
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On July 15 2009 03:47 ghermination wrote:
There are thousands of tutorials on installing parts, also it appears no-one even noticed my gigantic post about building an sc-2 capable computer back on page 8 @_@
On July 15 2009 04:02 Gogleion wrote:
Does anyone know what the supported OS's are?
You guys should take the time to read the OP. =)
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OS: XP SP2
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 6000+ (3.0 GHz)
GPU: 4870 HD 512 mb
Mobo: Foxconn A7GM-S
RAM: 4 gb Corsair DDR2
HD: 1 TB Seagate
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On July 15 2009 05:13 ebacho wrote:
OS: XP SP2
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 6000+ (3.0 GHz)
GPU: 4870 HD 512 mb
Mobo: Foxconn A7GM-S
RAM: 4 gb Corsair DDR2
HD: 1 TB Seagate
Sounds fine. Pretty standard nowadays, i don't think you'll have any trouble.
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If you're buying a GTX 280 why not just for the 285? Its a bit more expensive but i'm pretty sure theres quite a performance boost.
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On July 15 2009 07:13 ghermination wrote:
If you're buying a GTX 280 why not just for the 285? Its a bit more expensive but i'm pretty sure theres quite a performance boost.
Do you think money grows on trees in this household? It costs a whole $100 more and from the random website I just found searching "gtx 285 vs gtx 280" in google the GTX 285 isn't much better at all!
EDIT: linky to comparison website: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/evga_geforce_gtx_285_ssc_performance_review/default.asp
You will have to go a few pages ahead to get to the pretty graphs.
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The GTX285 os a refined GTX280 Usual boost is about 5-15% in performance.(again depends on settings in game and game itself) Nvidia does releases like this, 1st product cycle is a newer tech 2nd product cycle is the newer tech refined, and repeat. Only down side for GTX 280 is it's considered dead by nvidia so tring to find another to sli with would be hard 6 months from now or something.
For that price on newegg i would just get a GTX 275 it performs about even and sometimes better then the 280 along with that it's fairly new so drivers will improve. As the GTX275 like the GTX285 are 55nm GT200 chips vs the GTX 280 which is a 65nm. Progress!
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Any bottlenecks for my Comp to run SC2?? Plz Respond if you know <3
OS: Windows Vista 32 Bit
MotherBoard: GigaByte P35-DS3L
Processor: Quad Core Duo 2.4ghz Q6600
Memory: 3.072 GB DDR2
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS
H-D: WDC SE16 7200 RPM 200GB free (16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5")
Power: Allied 400W SL-8400BTX
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On July 15 2009 07:25 Saddened Izzy wrote:
The GTX285 os a refined GTX280 Usual boost is about 5-15% in performance.(again depends on settings in game and game itself) Nvidia does releases like this, 1st product cycle is a newer tech 2nd product cycle is the newer tech refined, and repeat. Only down side for GTX 280 is it's considered dead by nvidia so tring to find another to sli with would be hard 6 months from now or something.
For that price on newegg i would just get a GTX 275 it performs about even and sometimes better then the 280 along with that it's fairly new so drivers will improve. As the GTX275 like the GTX285 are 55nm GT200 chips vs the GTX 280 which is a 65nm. Progress!
Thanks for the info, I do like my graphics cards to be supported by the chip-set manufacturer. Another quick question. The GTX 275 requires 550 watt power supply minimum, my power supply only does 550 maximum. I don't think it would work with my power supply as my power supply has to power other things as well, is this line of thinking accurate?
I don't want my computer to explode.
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On July 15 2009 07:35 cUrsOr wrote:
Any bottlenecks for my Comp to run SC2?? Plz Respond if you know <3
OS: Windows Vista 32 Bit
MotherBoard: GigaByte P35-DS3L
Processor: Quad Core Duo 2.4ghz Q6600
Memory: 3.072 GB DDR2
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS
H-D: WDC SE16 7200 RPM 200GB free (16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5")
Power: Allied 400W SL-8400BTX
It should run sc2 on low settings fine, your video card will be holding you back though, You will need another power supply when you do upgrade however.
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On July 15 2009 07:38 UmmTheHobo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2009 07:25 Saddened Izzy wrote:
The GTX285 os a refined GTX280 Usual boost is about 5-15% in performance.(again depends on settings in game and game itself) Nvidia does releases like this, 1st product cycle is a newer tech 2nd product cycle is the newer tech refined, and repeat. Only down side for GTX 280 is it's considered dead by nvidia so tring to find another to sli with would be hard 6 months from now or something.
For that price on newegg i would just get a GTX 275 it performs about even and sometimes better then the 280 along with that it's fairly new so drivers will improve. As the GTX275 like the GTX285 are 55nm GT200 chips vs the GTX 280 which is a 65nm. Progress! Thanks for the info, I do like my graphics cards to be supported by the chip-set manufacturer. Another quick question. The GTX 275 requires 550 watt power supply minimum, my power supply only does 550 maximum. I don't think it would work with my power supply as my power supply has to power other things as well, is this line of thinking accurate? I don't want my computer to explode.
Power supply recommendations take into account a system with many fans, and accessories running as well, there is a ton of headroom
What brand is your power supply, if its a quality brand your golden, if its an off brand you will need to upgrade
I posted a link a few pages back with an overclocked core i7 system with a gtx 295 only using 411 watts at full load. Of course you don't want to run at 100% capacity, and every system is different.
EDIT: I should have just edited this into my last post, I fail.
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