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AA= anti-aliasing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-aliasing
It makes jagged edges smoother as faults and limitations of making 3d models in games usually 4 is enough to make it look great anything more is usually a waste.
Resolution increases also cleans up images but usually just a little AA will do 2 or 4 depening on resolution.
AA is such a heavy task on your GPU because of how it's done usually each object is rendered 2 or more times to make it look smoother.
In games it works great but can make objects a bit fuzzy as to make square things look round as most thing in computers.
AA slow down is due to you have a weaker card or older card as it's been a relatively new intro into games not all gpu chips are optimized for it. Usually higher end ATI card loose less fps then Nvidia cards do in AA.
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My budget 'rig':
Intel Core2Duo E7300 @2.66
Gigabyte GA-EP31
3.5 (4gb but 32-bit XP) OCZ Platinum
Nvidia Geforce 9500GT
Various SATA HDDs of varying brand and capacity
XP Pro
I think it should be fine, but I may upgrade by the time SC2 is out anyway.
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On July 16 2009 10:42 jtype wrote:
My budget 'rig':
Intel Core2Duo E7300 @2.66
Gigabyte GA-EP31
3.5 (4gb but 32-bit XP) OCZ Platinum
Nvidia Geforce 9500GT
Various SATA HDDs of varying brand and capacity
XP Pro
I think it should be fine, but I may upgrade by the time SC2 is out anyway.
I'm not entirely sure about the 9500GT, it should be fine on low resolutions but don't expect it to perform very well or take you to high settings.
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On July 16 2009 11:04 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2009 10:42 jtype wrote:
My budget 'rig':
Intel Core2Duo E7300 @2.66
Gigabyte GA-EP31
3.5 (4gb but 32-bit XP) OCZ Platinum
Nvidia Geforce 9500GT
Various SATA HDDs of varying brand and capacity
XP Pro
I think it should be fine, but I may upgrade by the time SC2 is out anyway.
I'm not entirely sure about the 9500GT, it should be fine on low resolutions but don't expect it to perform very well or take you to high settings.
Cool thanks for that.
I knew that was the weakest part of my build, but I'm just not too sure about the upgrade potential for components on my current mobo. I was wondering, if I upgraded my GFX card, whether my motherboard might present somewhat of a bottleneck.
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I think some of us are getting ahead of ourselves. The best thing to do would be to wait and see how the game performs at least under beta with what cards. Some of the cards we are bashing here might not even have come out or were very high end at the time starcraft 2 was in its early stages of production some 6 years ago?
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Ha  I remember when the game first came out and I was like "I'm totally buying an 8800 for this!"
Now I'm sitting here with a 4890 and waiting 
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I don't know about SC2 but may FPS players opt to disable AA (and opt for higher res) as the rough edges around players allows you to identify them more easily giving a slight advantage in some situations. I don't know if this will apply to SC2 but I guess it's something to consider when your playing with your settings.
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On July 16 2009 11:10 jtype wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2009 11:04 ghermination wrote:On July 16 2009 10:42 jtype wrote:
My budget 'rig':
Intel Core2Duo E7300 @2.66
Gigabyte GA-EP31
3.5 (4gb but 32-bit XP) OCZ Platinum
Nvidia Geforce 9500GT
Various SATA HDDs of varying brand and capacity
XP Pro
I think it should be fine, but I may upgrade by the time SC2 is out anyway.
I'm not entirely sure about the 9500GT, it should be fine on low resolutions but don't expect it to perform very well or take you to high settings. Cool thanks for that. I knew that was the weakest part of my build, but I'm just not too sure about the upgrade potential for components on my current mobo. I was wondering, if I upgraded my GFX card, whether my motherboard might present somewhat of a bottleneck.
Short answer is - no, it will not be a bottleneck. You can easily overclock E7300 to ~ 3.4-3.6 Ghz and get a radeon 4870 or gts 250 and you'll at least double the fps in most games.
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On July 12 2009 16:48 captainwaffles wrote:
Windows XP
Nvidia 8600GT
2GB DDR2
AMD X2 Dual Core 4600+
Asus Mobo
1TB Hitachi HDD
... What should I get for starcraft2? I was thinking, an 8800GT/9800GT More RAM, and probably a new processor... but I really don't know much about computers, if someone could point me in the right direction, that'd be awesome.
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Marshall Islands104 Posts
Right now I'm on a laptop:
OSX 10.5.7 "Leopard"
1.33 GHz PPC G4
768 MB RAM
60 Gig Hard Drive
ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 w/ 32 MB VRAM
DeathAdder Mac Edition (that actually doesn't work too great because of outdated drivers...)
Well, it runs StarCraft 1 great--but not much else. Good thing that I have another (back at home) dual core 2.16 GHz computer that should barely run SC2 on lowest settings.
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AMD Phenom II x4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ Quad Black edition | 4 GB DDR2 1066 RAM | Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P | Sapphire Radeon 4870 512mb | OCZ 700W StealthXStream | Samsung SH-S223F | Antec 900 Case | Acer 22" Black | Seagate Barracuda 7200 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0GB/s | Deathadder | Lycosa |
w/ vista 64 bit.
side note, i've been reading on upgrading to windows 7, but i've been confused. Will I be able to upgrade to windows 7 once it is released to the public? I've read that because I have vista 64 ultimate, I can upgrade to windows 7 ultimate. Just curious how/when.
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The free upgrade is only possible for anything above home premium and for those purchased between a certain date, I believe.
With the speculations about a family pack being a mere 20~30 bucks more than a single license and a good amount of computers at home, I think I am just going to use that.
EDIT - Worked at the build I had in mind from the previous page some more, some changes, a few more questions.
EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX X58 SLI LE Intel Motherboard
I am seeing a lot of comparisons for this tier of mobo to the Asus P6T, can anyone offer me an opinion on that?
(2x?) SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler
Due to considerations of OC and stepping up to crossfire at some point, bumped up the PSU to
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91
On the ram, I currently have this in mind,
G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
However, there are the likes of the Corsair Dominator which seems to be particularly well received, so opinions on that would be appreciated too.
As for case, I was looking at an Antec 900, then I came across this case, which seems to be comparable, if not better than the Antec and at a much lower price thanks to rebates. If anyone has any experience with this company, it'd be nice to hear about too.
There is the harddrive as well, I know plenty of people would point to a raptor, but there are opinions about how WD's caviar black and such perform relatively close to that level. Given I am almost certain to get another 1tb worth of storage drive at least, would it be worth it to blow the money on a raptor, or even SSD? (In the case of the latter I have to scrap the 1.3k budget I have in mind though)
Also, what recommendations do people have for monitors? That is outside of the 1.3k budget I have listed for the machine itself, so feel free to make suggestions without heeding that. Ideally I'd like to be able to hit up to 1080p though.
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Here's my system: what kind of results do you think I will have?
Alienware Aurora m9700 Laptop
-AMD Turion 1.8 GHz Processor
-2 SLi Nvidia GeforceGo 7900 GS Graphics cards
-2.00 GBs DDR RAM
50 GB Seagate Hard Drive, 100GB External USB Seagate Hard Drive
-Windows 7 Ultimate Beta (Will be purchasing)
note: I did not buy this system, there's no way I could afford it. It is over 2 years old, I won it from the sound-alike contest at the first BlizzCon.
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I just ordered a from newegg
i7 920 CPU
asus deluxe v2 mobo
6gb ocz ram 1600
ati 4870 x2 2gb video card
windows 7 64bit
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On July 17 2009 02:22 captainwaffles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2009 16:48 captainwaffles wrote:
Windows XP
Nvidia 8600GT
2GB DDR2
AMD X2 Dual Core 4600+
Asus Mobo
1TB Hitachi HDD ... What should I get for starcraft2? I was thinking, an 8800GT/9800GT More RAM, and probably a new processor... but I really don't know much about computers, if someone could point me in the right direction, that'd be awesome.
Your rig sounds fine for running the game, but i would recommend getting a 9800 GTX+ 512mb if you have the money, (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150316) however you may not have a proper power supply, which once again leads to the full computer revamp. If you do have a proper power supply and one 6-pin power connector, then by all means get the 9800GT. it will be a huge improvement over the 8600GT.
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Ya the 8600s are pretty terrible cards even for there time. It's hard recommending upgrades to people without a budget though. You can build a very nice computer for 800$ if you don't need a monitor.
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If you don't need os monitor keyboard sound system etc you can make strong builds for around 600
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9400 GT is it ok for SC2 ?
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On July 17 2009 14:06 GoSu wrote:
9400 GT is it ok for SC2 ?
Well, it should be able to run it (hopefully), although i don't know much about that card. What can you run now? For example, a friend with a 7600GT can easily run newer games with medium settings (fallout 3, oblivion, fear 2 etc) so we're pretty sure he'll be able to play sc2 just fine. If you can't run things like cnc 3 FLAWLESSLY at highest settings then you will most likely need to upgrade.
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