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Mockingbird
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
March 22 2009 23:30 GMT
#341
On March 23 2009 07:51 fight_or_flight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 06:04 Mockingbird wrote:
The truly hilarious (and ultimately depressing) part of this entire battle is the incredible pointlessness of it.

Welcome to the internet. I suggest you don't take things so seriously. 95% of the people will be gone by this time next week, and perhaps the rest will become members of your site and contribute in some way (which is still a pretty good number).


Unfortunately luv that's not the way to bet. Auth's been skidding down the slippery slope for months, this has just precipitated the slide. It's easy not to take it seriously when you're not personally involved and haven't invested a great deal of time and effort in something... I am (and have), so I will continue to take it seriously, quite a lot was riding on it. Never mind, major re-think in progress.

And trust me on this, the shouting and screaming on both sides is totally pointless... Klazart is playing the game, he's winning... good for him. But, unfortunately, each time a new twist to the game comes into play, more and more people who are not so technically adept or lack the time/facilities to play this way are more and more screwed. Hence outbreak of hostilities. But at the end of the day, is the "prize" actually worth winning? Not on the experiences so far. The three successful books were picked despite Authonomy through the traditional routes, and not because of their presence on Authonomy. And there isn't a whole lot of evidence that Authonomy actually does a great deal for your chances with either agents or other publishers.

Motivation? Just say your lines and try not to trip over the furniture!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7700 Posts
March 22 2009 23:31 GMT
#342
On March 23 2009 08:26 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 08:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I love klazart, he's the best commentator out there and has converted thousands, including me into hardcore starcraft fans!

AHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH, ZULU <3

Sucked in air and almost had a heart attack! <3 zulu_nation8 thanks for the laugh.
Mockingbird
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
March 22 2009 23:47 GMT
#343
On March 23 2009 08:25 G0dly wrote:

I'd be willing to give your work a read.



Hey... cool... always happy to welcome new readers (and to be honest, new books too!)....Fatal Diversion is my collaboration novel, and A. Winter's Tale is my solo work in progress... (I should warn that Winter does contain erotica...)



Motivation? Just say your lines and try not to trip over the furniture!
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 23:58:23
March 22 2009 23:50 GMT
#344
On March 23 2009 08:30 Mockingbird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 07:51 fight_or_flight wrote:
On March 23 2009 06:04 Mockingbird wrote:
The truly hilarious (and ultimately depressing) part of this entire battle is the incredible pointlessness of it.

Welcome to the internet. I suggest you don't take things so seriously. 95% of the people will be gone by this time next week, and perhaps the rest will become members of your site and contribute in some way (which is still a pretty good number).


Unfortunately luv that's not the way to bet. Auth's been skidding down the slippery slope for months, this has just precipitated the slide. It's easy not to take it seriously when you're not personally involved and haven't invested a great deal of time and effort in something... I am (and have), so I will continue to take it seriously, quite a lot was riding on it. Never mind, major re-think in progress.

And trust me on this, the shouting and screaming on both sides is totally pointless... Klazart is playing the game, he's winning... good for him. But, unfortunately, each time a new twist to the game comes into play, more and more people who are not so technically adept or lack the time/facilities to play this way are more and more screwed. Hence outbreak of hostilities. But at the end of the day, is the "prize" actually worth winning? Not on the experiences so far. The three successful books were picked despite Authonomy through the traditional routes, and not because of their presence on Authonomy. And there isn't a whole lot of evidence that Authonomy actually does a great deal for your chances with either agents or other publishers.

I'm not saying you shouldn't take your website seriously, or the time spend in your community. What I'm saying is that people are being "hostile" because they get a reaction out of it. When you take people comments seriously, you are simply encouraging them to keep it up. Commonly this is known as "trolling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Most people's comments are not serious.

edit: also, many people here have very diverse interests. If you scroll down a little bit here you can see some of the categories of people's interests. A lot of people would be interested in reading books on your website.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84245
Do you really want chat rooms?
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
March 23 2009 00:24 GMT
#345
On March 23 2009 08:27 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 17:29 Klaz wrote:
I never intended to break the site or anything... just wanted to promote my book(which I've worked very hard on) a little and try to get some feedback, and a lot of the guys on youtube had said they wanted to check it out, so this was a good way to introduce it to them.

I don't hold any malice towards anyone. You're write right, this will only make them more insular as a community, which is kinda sad.



Fixed. Shouldn't HAD TO HAVE DONE THAT.

What's that supposed to mean? Who cares.. he improperly selected a homophone, it does happen when you are writing/typing what you want to communicate quickly
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 23 2009 00:27 GMT
#346
Auth's been skidding down the slippery slope for months, this has just precipitated the slide. It's easy not to take it seriously when you're not personally involved and haven't invested a great deal of time and effort in something... I am (and have), so I will continue to take it seriously, quite a lot was riding on it. Never mind, major re-think in progress.
Do you believe that this is the reason for the outcry in general?
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Mockingbird
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
March 23 2009 00:56 GMT
#347
On March 23 2009 08:50 fight_or_flight wrote:
I'm not saying you shouldn't take your website seriously, or the time spend in your community. What I'm saying is that people are being "hostile" because they get a reaction out of it. When you take people comments seriously, you are simply encouraging them to keep it up. Commonly this is known as "trolling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Most people's comments are not serious.

edit: also, many people here have very diverse interests. If you scroll down a little bit here you can see some of the categories of people's interests. A lot of people would be interested in reading books on your website.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84245


The hostility stuff is hugely pointless... However, some of the hostility directed at some of the newbies is because people have invested a huge amount of time and poured their hearts into their work, and along comes a steamroller.... and suddenly all that time and personal emotion appears to be wasted. That's why you're getting flames from some of the old guard. I don't condone it, but I do understand it. It doesn't bother me, I have a fairly short attention span for all that flaming, I tend to wander off.

My view, the more, the merrier, unless you want to be trollish about it... got plenty of them already, really don't need any more! Come on over, take a look. Read some stuff (there's an awful lot on there). There's no reason why we can't all exist in some kind of understanding with each other.

But please, I beg... don't quote Wiki..... please....
Motivation? Just say your lines and try not to trip over the furniture!
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
March 23 2009 01:04 GMT
#348
Wow, this is so funny. Can't believe TL and a few Klazart fans on youtube crashed a corporate website :o
My. Copy. Is. Here.
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
March 23 2009 01:05 GMT
#349
I don't get all these people complaining about Klazart's voice... not everyone has an American/your-place-of-origin's accent
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 23 2009 01:08 GMT
#350
On March 23 2009 09:56 Mockingbird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 08:50 fight_or_flight wrote:
I'm not saying you shouldn't take your website seriously, or the time spend in your community. What I'm saying is that people are being "hostile" because they get a reaction out of it. When you take people comments seriously, you are simply encouraging them to keep it up. Commonly this is known as "trolling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Most people's comments are not serious.

edit: also, many people here have very diverse interests. If you scroll down a little bit here you can see some of the categories of people's interests. A lot of people would be interested in reading books on your website.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84245

But please, I beg... don't quote Wiki..... please....

Note that he did not quote a wiki, but that he linked to it.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Mockingbird
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
March 23 2009 01:15 GMT
#351
On March 23 2009 09:27 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
Auth's been skidding down the slippery slope for months, this has just precipitated the slide. It's easy not to take it seriously when you're not personally involved and haven't invested a great deal of time and effort in something... I am (and have), so I will continue to take it seriously, quite a lot was riding on it. Never mind, major re-think in progress.
Do you believe that this is the reason for the outcry in general?


I know I spent the first three months doing some serious reading and backing, and participating in the forums until I was nearly cross-eyed. I made some great friends, but the site started to down turn round about November. The fight for the Editor's Desk is borderline something... (something really nasty). Some of the forum threads got really vicious. Makes what we've seen here so far seem quite tame actually, and December and January were basically bananas. Quite a few of the old guard started to pull back big time from the site. Some people I have got to know well don't want to have anything to do with the site anymore because it's become the beast that consumes.

Then suddenly there's a new game in town, and fair dos... Klazart's is a spectacular. No reason why he shouldn't invite his existing fanbase to vote... why the hell not? I know I would if I had his numbers. I think the mistake that he inadvertently made was not mentioning the suggestion that folk might like to take a look at some other stuff while they were in there voting for his work. Something that some of our more trollish members have very swiftly latched on to. He's not cheating, and it isn't his fault that Auth's server is basically two tin cans with a piece of string between them. But suddenly he shows up, his book shows up, and half the world follows after, zooms in and backs his book... then walks away without a second glance. He's the reason they're there, why not? It just might seem to some who have scrabbled and fought and clawed and messaged everything that moves and breathes, in an attempt to get their work read, that Klazart is taking an unfair advantage. He's perfectly at liberty to invite anyone he chooses, and he has. I sincerely hope that some of you take advantage and have some fun in there, because it is quite fun, and there are some seriously wicked books too.

This will probably sound a little odd, but I think Klazart hasn't really witnessed just how savage the battle for the ED can get, and he's been a little naiive in thinking that because some of the folk on there are relatively old, that they're not going to be every bit as trollish as the young spoiling for a battle. We've got trolls a-plenty, and some really nasty ones too!


Motivation? Just say your lines and try not to trip over the furniture!
Mockingbird
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
March 23 2009 01:16 GMT
#352
On March 23 2009 10:08 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 09:56 Mockingbird wrote:
On March 23 2009 08:50 fight_or_flight wrote:
I'm not saying you shouldn't take your website seriously, or the time spend in your community. What I'm saying is that people are being "hostile" because they get a reaction out of it. When you take people comments seriously, you are simply encouraging them to keep it up. Commonly this is known as "trolling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Most people's comments are not serious.

edit: also, many people here have very diverse interests. If you scroll down a little bit here you can see some of the categories of people's interests. A lot of people would be interested in reading books on your website.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84245

But please, I beg... don't quote Wiki..... please....

Note that he did not quote a wiki, but that he linked to it.


I cede the point, but it's still Wiki....
Motivation? Just say your lines and try not to trip over the furniture!
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9016 Posts
March 23 2009 01:26 GMT
#353
Yay the site is back up now I can actually go read the first four chapters and enjoy some of the discussion on their forums... This ought to be pretty good reading.
G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 01:27:35
March 23 2009 01:26 GMT
#354
On March 23 2009 10:15 Mockingbird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 09:27 L wrote:
Auth's been skidding down the slippery slope for months, this has just precipitated the slide. It's easy not to take it seriously when you're not personally involved and haven't invested a great deal of time and effort in something... I am (and have), so I will continue to take it seriously, quite a lot was riding on it. Never mind, major re-think in progress.
Do you believe that this is the reason for the outcry in general?


I know I spent the first three months doing some serious reading and backing, and participating in the forums until I was nearly cross-eyed. I made some great friends, but the site started to down turn round about November. The fight for the Editor's Desk is borderline something... (something really nasty). Some of the forum threads got really vicious. Makes what we've seen here so far seem quite tame actually, and December and January were basically bananas. Quite a few of the old guard started to pull back big time from the site. Some people I have got to know well don't want to have anything to do with the site anymore because it's become the beast that consumes.

Then suddenly there's a new game in town, and fair dos... Klazart's is a spectacular. No reason why he shouldn't invite his existing fanbase to vote... why the hell not? I know I would if I had his numbers. I think the mistake that he inadvertently made was not mentioning the suggestion that folk might like to take a look at some other stuff while they were in there voting for his work. Something that some of our more trollish members have very swiftly latched on to. He's not cheating, and it isn't his fault that Auth's server is basically two tin cans with a piece of string between them. But suddenly he shows up, his book shows up, and half the world follows after, zooms in and backs his book... then walks away without a second glance. He's the reason they're there, why not? It just might seem to some who have scrabbled and fought and clawed and messaged everything that moves and breathes, in an attempt to get their work read, that Klazart is taking an unfair advantage. He's perfectly at liberty to invite anyone he chooses, and he has. I sincerely hope that some of you take advantage and have some fun in there, because it is quite fun, and there are some seriously wicked books too.

This will probably sound a little odd, but I think Klazart hasn't really witnessed just how savage the battle for the ED can get, and he's been a little naiive in thinking that because some of the folk on there are relatively old, that they're not going to be every bit as trollish as the young spoiling for a battle. We've got trolls a-plenty, and some really nasty ones too!




I agree with you on all these points. If Klazart had worded his message better, I think he would have saved himself a lot of trouble.

Still, competition brings out the best in people, and for some people their "best" is not very substantial.

Edit: btw I will read your books at some point in the future, though I'm not certain when I will find the time as I've been recommended a lot of books since finding the site.
The Emperor - The Genius - The Cheater - The Maestro
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 23 2009 01:28 GMT
#355
On March 23 2009 10:26 G0dly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 10:15 Mockingbird wrote:
On March 23 2009 09:27 L wrote:
Auth's been skidding down the slippery slope for months, this has just precipitated the slide. It's easy not to take it seriously when you're not personally involved and haven't invested a great deal of time and effort in something... I am (and have), so I will continue to take it seriously, quite a lot was riding on it. Never mind, major re-think in progress.
Do you believe that this is the reason for the outcry in general?


I know I spent the first three months doing some serious reading and backing, and participating in the forums until I was nearly cross-eyed. I made some great friends, but the site started to down turn round about November. The fight for the Editor's Desk is borderline something... (something really nasty). Some of the forum threads got really vicious. Makes what we've seen here so far seem quite tame actually, and December and January were basically bananas. Quite a few of the old guard started to pull back big time from the site. Some people I have got to know well don't want to have anything to do with the site anymore because it's become the beast that consumes.

Then suddenly there's a new game in town, and fair dos... Klazart's is a spectacular. No reason why he shouldn't invite his existing fanbase to vote... why the hell not? I know I would if I had his numbers. I think the mistake that he inadvertently made was not mentioning the suggestion that folk might like to take a look at some other stuff while they were in there voting for his work. Something that some of our more trollish members have very swiftly latched on to. He's not cheating, and it isn't his fault that Auth's server is basically two tin cans with a piece of string between them. But suddenly he shows up, his book shows up, and half the world follows after, zooms in and backs his book... then walks away without a second glance. He's the reason they're there, why not? It just might seem to some who have scrabbled and fought and clawed and messaged everything that moves and breathes, in an attempt to get their work read, that Klazart is taking an unfair advantage. He's perfectly at liberty to invite anyone he chooses, and he has. I sincerely hope that some of you take advantage and have some fun in there, because it is quite fun, and there are some seriously wicked books too.

This will probably sound a little odd, but I think Klazart hasn't really witnessed just how savage the battle for the ED can get, and he's been a little naiive in thinking that because some of the folk on there are relatively old, that they're not going to be every bit as trollish as the young spoiling for a battle. We've got trolls a-plenty, and some really nasty ones too!




I agree with you on all these points. If Klazart had worded his message better, I think he would have saved himself a lot of trouble.

Still, competition brings out the best in people, and for some people their "best" is not very substantial.

I find this absolutely hilarious, because the whole idea of getting a book in front of an editor is precisely so that he can word his message better. Oh, the irony.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-23 01:48:36
March 23 2009 01:28 GMT
#356
On March 23 2009 10:16 Mockingbird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 10:08 CDRdude wrote:
On March 23 2009 09:56 Mockingbird wrote:
On March 23 2009 08:50 fight_or_flight wrote:
I'm not saying you shouldn't take your website seriously, or the time spend in your community. What I'm saying is that people are being "hostile" because they get a reaction out of it. When you take people comments seriously, you are simply encouraging them to keep it up. Commonly this is known as "trolling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Most people's comments are not serious.

edit: also, many people here have very diverse interests. If you scroll down a little bit here you can see some of the categories of people's interests. A lot of people would be interested in reading books on your website.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84245

But please, I beg... don't quote Wiki..... please....

Note that he did not quote a wiki, but that he linked to it.


I cede the point, but it's still Wiki....


In fairness, try finding an accurate article in Encyclopaedia Britannica on Internet Trolls.

Oh wait there isn't one.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
March 23 2009 01:30 GMT
#357
On March 23 2009 10:28 Kerotan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 10:16 Mockingbird wrote:
On March 23 2009 10:08 CDRdude wrote:
On March 23 2009 09:56 Mockingbird wrote:
On March 23 2009 08:50 fight_or_flight wrote:
I'm not saying you shouldn't take your website seriously, or the time spend in your community. What I'm saying is that people are being "hostile" because they get a reaction out of it. When you take people comments seriously, you are simply encouraging them to keep it up. Commonly this is known as "trolling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Most people's comments are not serious.

edit: also, many people here have very diverse interests. If you scroll down a little bit here you can see some of the categories of people's interests. A lot of people would be interested in reading books on your website.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84245

But please, I beg... don't quote Wiki..... please....

Note that he did not quote a wiki, but that he linked to it.


I cede the point, but it's still Wiki....


In fairness, try finding an accurate article in Encyclopaedia Britannica on Internet Trolls.

Oh wait there isn't one,

I was going to use the urban dictionary, but decided not to.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Mockingbird
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
March 23 2009 01:35 GMT
#358
On March 23 2009 10:26 G0dly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 10:15 Mockingbird wrote:
On March 23 2009 09:27 L wrote:
Auth's been skidding down the slippery slope for months, this has just precipitated the slide. It's easy not to take it seriously when you're not personally involved and haven't invested a great deal of time and effort in something... I am (and have), so I will continue to take it seriously, quite a lot was riding on it. Never mind, major re-think in progress.
Do you believe that this is the reason for the outcry in general?


I know I spent the first three months doing some serious reading and backing, and participating in the forums until I was nearly cross-eyed. I made some great friends, but the site started to down turn round about November. The fight for the Editor's Desk is borderline something... (something really nasty). Some of the forum threads got really vicious. Makes what we've seen here so far seem quite tame actually, and December and January were basically bananas. Quite a few of the old guard started to pull back big time from the site. Some people I have got to know well don't want to have anything to do with the site anymore because it's become the beast that consumes.

Then suddenly there's a new game in town, and fair dos... Klazart's is a spectacular. No reason why he shouldn't invite his existing fanbase to vote... why the hell not? I know I would if I had his numbers. I think the mistake that he inadvertently made was not mentioning the suggestion that folk might like to take a look at some other stuff while they were in there voting for his work. Something that some of our more trollish members have very swiftly latched on to. He's not cheating, and it isn't his fault that Auth's server is basically two tin cans with a piece of string between them. But suddenly he shows up, his book shows up, and half the world follows after, zooms in and backs his book... then walks away without a second glance. He's the reason they're there, why not? It just might seem to some who have scrabbled and fought and clawed and messaged everything that moves and breathes, in an attempt to get their work read, that Klazart is taking an unfair advantage. He's perfectly at liberty to invite anyone he chooses, and he has. I sincerely hope that some of you take advantage and have some fun in there, because it is quite fun, and there are some seriously wicked books too.

This will probably sound a little odd, but I think Klazart hasn't really witnessed just how savage the battle for the ED can get, and he's been a little naiive in thinking that because some of the folk on there are relatively old, that they're not going to be every bit as trollish as the young spoiling for a battle. We've got trolls a-plenty, and some really nasty ones too!




I agree with you on all these points. If Klazart had worded his message better, I think he would have saved himself a lot of trouble.

Still, competition brings out the best in people, and for some people their "best" is not very substantial.

Edit: btw I will read your books at some point in the future, though I'm not certain when I will find the time as I've been recommended a lot of books since finding the site.


Actually, having listened to the YouTube vid now (I couldn't access it before), even more fair dos, Klazart DOES mention that folk might like to take a look at some of the other stuff on there. And guys, honestly, we really would like you to take a read!

I do think that the fundamental problem that Klazart faces is that he is coming up against the savage competition which only gets worse as the month end approaches. Hopefully this will calm down and sort itself out.

Someone mentioned corporate website... as far as we've been able to ascertain, there is a god... he's one bloke, and he is the unlucky soul who gets inundated... (can we say cheap??) so he might be feeling a tad under siege tomorrow morning!
Motivation? Just say your lines and try not to trip over the furniture!
Mockingbird
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
March 23 2009 01:40 GMT
#359
On March 23 2009 10:28 Kerotan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 10:16 Mockingbird wrote:
On March 23 2009 10:08 CDRdude wrote:
On March 23 2009 09:56 Mockingbird wrote:
On March 23 2009 08:50 fight_or_flight wrote:
I'm not saying you shouldn't take your website seriously, or the time spend in your community. What I'm saying is that people are being "hostile" because they get a reaction out of it. When you take people comments seriously, you are simply encouraging them to keep it up. Commonly this is known as "trolling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Most people's comments are not serious.

edit: also, many people here have very diverse interests. If you scroll down a little bit here you can see some of the categories of people's interests. A lot of people would be interested in reading books on your website.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84245

But please, I beg... don't quote Wiki..... please....

Note that he did not quote a wiki, but that he linked to it.


I cede the point, but it's still Wiki....


In fairness, try finding an accurate article in Encyclopaedia Britannica on Internet Trolls.

Oh wait there isn't one,


I know... but I also know from personal experience (okay I shouldn't mock, but it's in my nature to do so...) that some Wiki entries have been created by not particularly intelligent beings with time on their hands, ten functioning digits and a keyboard... I also cede that this is not true of all of Wiki... but this problem has made me a trifle wary of research which contains Wiki links.
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March 23 2009 01:44 GMT
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wow i cant believe this shit.. seriously ... Tasteless>Artosis>Chill ive been around the scene for a long time Artosis and chill are just trash reason why people follow klaz and the sc2gg because they are real good commentators just because a bunch of washed up sc players still trying to act like their pro dont mean shit.. Tasteless is ok but he has nothing on sc2gg commentators. and incontrol said something about klaz sounds fukn nerdy.. and ive heard nothing but unjustified negativity from him towards klaz. aint you that fat nerd on that cheesy gaming demoting reality show gg fukn loser thanks for making us sc players look bad. im problaby gunna get banned for this. good this is like my first post ever on this site ive had the profile for about a year.
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