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Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
March 22 2009 21:03 GMT
#301
Whatever else can be said about Klazart's abilities (or lack thereof), it's hard to deny that he has provided us with a hilarious spectacle.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 22 2009 21:04 GMT
#302
LOL look at this review of "shadow rush"

Truly a masterpiece.
Nicholas T. Shadow touches on the human psyche like no other. From his writing we can see the transformations of a man, as his passion slowly turns into an obsession which slowly consumes him. This lack of self control I fear, is never ending; controlling. He demonstrates through experience and reflection that time is a valuable thing, as we watch it fly by as the pendulum swings.

As the pressure begins to overcome the protagonist, the reader sees glimpses of the former man juxtaposed with the chaos; it's a very surreal experience. Soon enough, without a sense of confidence, I'm convinced there's just too much pressure to take. One asks themselves, what was it all for if in the end it doesn't even matter? The protagonist completely breaks down and all the accomplishments are for naught.

It's a very confronting piece from someone that has experienced the very highs and the very lows of life. A must read.


xD


@ju-ju
yes i think you said all there was to say and Im sure people who read this whole thing are aware now that theres no point in spamming on your site, even if they were stupid enough not to come to that conclusion on their own
beep boop
Mockingbird
Profile Joined March 2009
United Kingdom33 Posts
March 22 2009 21:04 GMT
#303
The truly hilarious (and ultimately depressing) part of this entire battle is the incredible pointlessness of it. I've been on that site for six months. Each month the battle for the Editor's Desk has got more vitriolic, more mal-adjusted and further and further out of control. However, it won't make a jot of difference in the end. It never does. You should see the standards of the crits that HC dish out! They're laughable. No one has been picked up from the top five in any month. This is as likely due to the brutal reality of market forces as anything else, Harper Collins is a company with a bottom line, shareholders to keep happy, and staff to pay. They probably have a team of accountants peering over their collective shoulders saying "ah, ah, ah" and shaking their heads. Klazart is playing the game, and giving it his best shot, fair dos to him, I wish him well. His book isn't my cup of tea, but I'm perfectly willing to accept that others will like it a lot. And racist comments are completely unacceptable anywhere.

One thing I would ask people to consider though, before they think that it's just the old guard being old and crusty. I've worked damn hard on my pieces that are up there, and sure Klazart's playing the game (he isn't the first, and he certainly won't be the last), but.... I see what's going on and I wonder if my work has the slightest merit or chance at even a half way decent review by anyone because I lack the technical skill to produce a big bang entrance like that. And yes it is pretty emotional too, because I poured my heart into my work. Authonomy was a bit like trying to flog a grizzly bear with a twig. Now, it's like trying to flog a steamroller........

Motivation? Just say your lines and try not to trip over the furniture!
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 21:08:20
March 22 2009 21:06 GMT
#304
On March 23 2009 05:49 ju-ju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 05:34 Descent wrote:
In my opinion, very few of the comments made by Authonomy members in that thread's first 30 or so pages were not rude or harmful. You, and the other members, have a right to be upset about your falling rankings. However, that does not legitimize the use of ignorance and false accusations against a large number of human users. Also, five out of fifty is a far larger proportion than say, five out of six hundred. A good percentage of Authonomy's members were making ad hominem statements not only against Klazart, but against his fans. In a similar manner, a smaller percentage of those fans have reciprocated the comments. This I feel is true, even if the same number of people on both sides were involved, as it does seem to me like Authonomy's userbase is smaller.


i actually don't know the membership of Authonomy so can't comment on who had the biggest amount of unruly members (not sure that it is relevant, anyhow). By the time i surfaced this morning the thread had reached 60 something, so no idea what was on the first thirty pages (i think i make a couple of comments around page 70). And the ranking thing is certainly not an issue to me. And i agree nothing legitmises ignorance or false accusations - but then we are all human and liable to emotional outbursts. But if you think anyone crossed a line (as in my previous thread) make use on the report abuse function (when the site is up and running again). I miss it you know - i had a lot of reads i'd promised to do for other writers today, and its been running so badly, i couldn't open their chapters.

+ Show Spoiler +
I, for one, read the thread, in its entirety, on your forums. And I think it relevant. A large proportion of Authonomy's active posters went out of their way to dehumanize Klazart's fans. A smaller group from the other side have insulted Authonomy members -- considerably less if you take into account the entirety of Klazart's fanbase on YouTube. Similarly, very many new members have joined Authonomy's system, while very few have deemed it necessary to venture into the forums supposedly aiding Klazart. Perhaps they do not know how to find these threads. In any case, I find it unjust that the moderate members here, who are hardly connected at all, can be labeled by Authonomy's regulars as mere bots. Therein, I believe, lies a true need for apology. Regardless of the outcome with respect to Klazart's book, the Authonomy users were the first to degrade an entire population of users, albeit perhaps unknowingly. I do not believe it right to just pretend the insults to Klazart's fanbase as homogeneous idiots never existed.


...This is a bit preempted by the post you just made.

Edit: Never mind this post, I guess.
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 21:27:34
March 22 2009 21:27 GMT
#305
wow, this is amazing, its like a present day internet forum just stumbled on one that is somehow still in the 1960s. I'm registering now to sigh hello from the future.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
March 22 2009 21:29 GMT
#306
Is their site down? I wanted to read about the shadow rush.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
March 22 2009 21:30 GMT
#307
It's back up now, but rather slow.
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
March 22 2009 21:32 GMT
#308
Teamliquid your pretty sad, you claim to hate klazart yet apparantly most of you watch his videos. I prefer the normal korean streams over anything anyways but this is just pathetic.
"You're a pathetic, jerk, loser, and I wouldn't kiss you if I had brain cancer and your lips were the cure" LOOOOL
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
March 22 2009 21:33 GMT
#309
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7655889105820772060&postID=190175807472717738&pli=1

more drama
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Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
March 22 2009 21:34 GMT
#310
On March 23 2009 06:32 only_human89 wrote:
Teamliquid your pretty sad, you claim to hate klazart yet apparantly most of you watch his videos. I prefer the normal korean streams over anything anyways but this is just pathetic.

I was not aware that watching his videos requires being a fan, or that being a fan requires watching his videos. Do you ever read books of which you are not a fan of the author?
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
March 22 2009 21:51 GMT
#311
Ahh, why did I even start to read this thread. Incontrol, you make me sad, you make me lose all respect I once had for you. How can you attack a person that has contributed so much for the community?? You might not like him from your perspective, but loads of noobs and ppl that are new to this communty love him, for his entusiasm, the very same entusiasm we share for this game!!! I for once would never stayed and keept watching proleague and SaviOr when he was in his prime, if it wasnt for Klazart. He made it intresting, his entusiasm is somthing all other commentators LACK. I dont watch him these days, for many reasons. Doesnt mean I start flaming him, I still respect him for giving me and other ppl what he has!! Doesnt give you the right to come here, talk offtopic and flame the guy thats done NOTHING wrong. You got alot of respect here by many, and now you turn that into shit, you lost all mine, even if you dont care. Sorry dude... your going waaay over the line.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
March 22 2009 21:54 GMT
#312
the klazart fans vs TL argument has been done a billion times, let's please not get into it too much here, we've all come to a grudging understanding with each other.
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Xenixx
Profile Joined June 2008
United States499 Posts
March 22 2009 21:55 GMT
#313
On March 23 2009 06:34 Descent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 06:32 only_human89 wrote:
Teamliquid your pretty sad, you claim to hate klazart yet apparantly most of you watch his videos. I prefer the normal korean streams over anything anyways but this is just pathetic.

I was not aware that watching his videos requires being a fan, or that being a fan requires watching his videos. Do you ever read books of which you are not a fan of the author?


no he lives a very simple and structured world, everything is 1+1=2
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 22 2009 21:59 GMT
#314
heh, this is interesting. i didn't realize klaz had so many fans.

depending on what the real purpose of authonomy's contest is (something tells me its not the book quality), they might need to alter their ranking algorithm. like MoC pointed out here, having registered time/contribution to the site be a variable that affects the weight of the vote could be helpful.

of course that's assuming they want a high quality book as opposed to a potentially popular one. somehow i don't think that's the case.

anyway, this will always happen no matter how you alter the algorithm. Hell, even digg's frontpage algo can be quite easily manipulated ;-)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
March 22 2009 22:00 GMT
#315
On March 23 2009 06:34 Descent wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 06:32 only_human89 wrote:
Teamliquid your pretty sad, you claim to hate klazart yet apparantly most of you watch his videos. I prefer the normal korean streams over anything anyways but this is just pathetic.

I was not aware that watching his videos requires being a fan, or that being a fan requires watching his videos. Do you ever read books of which you are not a fan of the author?


You guys already know you don't like him though. So why keep wathcing his videos to flame about it? Is it really still that funny even on the forums? I guess it's no big deal. I was just suprised so many people care. I usually just ignore things I don't like or appreciate, even if it's funny to laugh at. Yes i have read books about an author i don't care for, but i never bring that author or book up in conversation.
"You're a pathetic, jerk, loser, and I wouldn't kiss you if I had brain cancer and your lips were the cure" LOOOOL
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
March 22 2009 22:02 GMT
#316
On March 23 2009 06:55 Xenixx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2009 06:34 Descent wrote:
On March 23 2009 06:32 only_human89 wrote:
Teamliquid your pretty sad, you claim to hate klazart yet apparantly most of you watch his videos. I prefer the normal korean streams over anything anyways but this is just pathetic.

I was not aware that watching his videos requires being a fan, or that being a fan requires watching his videos. Do you ever read books of which you are not a fan of the author?


no he lives a very simple and structured world, everything is 1+1=2


yep
"You're a pathetic, jerk, loser, and I wouldn't kiss you if I had brain cancer and your lips were the cure" LOOOOL
sargo12
Profile Joined March 2009
1 Post
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 22:04:44
March 22 2009 22:04 GMT
#317
[QUOTE]On March 22 2009 14:29 Dgtl wrote:
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 22 2009 22:10 GMT
#318
On March 23 2009 06:51 ThePhan2m wrote:
Ahh, why did I even start to read this thread. Incontrol, you make me sad, you make me lose all respect I once had for you. How can you attack a person that has contributed so much for the community?? You might not like him from your perspective, but loads of noobs and ppl that are new to this communty love him, for his entusiasm, the very same entusiasm we share for this game!!! I for once would never stayed and keept watching proleague and SaviOr when he was in his prime, if it wasnt for Klazart. He made it intresting, his entusiasm is somthing all other commentators LACK. I dont watch him these days, for many reasons. Doesnt mean I start flaming him, I still respect him for giving me and other ppl what he has!! Doesnt give you the right to come here, talk offtopic and flame the guy thats done NOTHING wrong. You got alot of respect here by many, and now you turn that into shit, you lost all mine, even if you dont care. Sorry dude... your going waaay over the line.


arrrg wtf man incontrol already said himself that he realises the points you make at first are true.

beep boop
Bozali
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden155 Posts
March 22 2009 22:15 GMT
#319
Best of luck klazart! Love your work for the starcraft community
TehKris
Profile Joined October 2006
Norway322 Posts
March 22 2009 22:16 GMT
#320
On March 22 2009 15:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 15:20 Physician wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:50 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:46 JWD wrote:
On March 22 2009 14:44 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
HOLY SHIT THAT VOICE IS KLAZART? WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE LIKE HIS COMMENTATING?

God damn it.. where is he from/ethnicity? What can explain that horrid voice?


Irish + Indian = ?


holy christ that makes so much sense.. IRISH INDIAN? WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT? it is like a pink dolphin.. you just dont do that.


I don't know man, you don't know how much of a douche your comments came across to me, specially being American and nation that stands against ur very comment.

The U.K has always had an influx from the old commonwealth and old colonies.

How about German American, or Chinese Australian, or English Indian? Or German Turks or French Algerians? Or Jewish Iranians?

What's so strange? You know, with easy affordable transport between most countries in this planet. What century are you living in?

There is a ton of klazart related threads in Teamliquid. As if you had not heard his voice before today. I for one do not believe neither your outcry or surprise (no matter what you may claim). Why you don't like him is beyond me, but at least be honest about it or don't use him for entertainment cause all his done is contribute and add to our community.



I don't care if you think I am a douche.
I don't care if you don't believe that I haven't heard him (that isn't relevant, had I heard him I could STILL have this reaction).
"Being american" what? I don't give a fuck if I am Chinese and I don't like the color red.. I am just myself in this case and guess what? My opinion is shared so apparently it isn't so zany.

He over-pronounces a ton of shit and it sounds horrid. I love Day[9] but when he said "concave} in reference to the attack formation of hydralisks I knew I needed to poison his drink.


You sir, are retarded. Klazart is by far the best foreign commentater out there, besides Tasteless. What you think is irrelevant, the people have spoken (youtube / teamliquid fans who aren't fat fags)
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