EPTI Want to be a Commentator - Page 8
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On October 03 2008 08:46 VorcePA wrote: Well, riddle me this, Batman (and TL.net): I watch replays, watch VODs, and GOMTV frequently. I play Starcraft fairly frequently, but I haven't had the time for the past, oh, 3 months or so because of life... I've really felt I've reached the peak of my abilities, and that peak is a solid D on ICCup with my best games reaching a whopping (ha.) 135 APM average. Now, granted, I understand the game on a higher level than my ICCup rating gives me credit for. That being said, I honestly don't know how to make worthwhile actions beyond the 135 mark. If my average is above 135, I've spammed useless actions. Sure, I can peak at around 300-350 APM, but just for a mere second or two, then it drops back down. I do not know how to maintain a high APM that is not just high, but also useful. I know the difference between spamming and making use of those actions, but applying it has been where I get stuck. I don't know why you keep talking about APM as if it is the most important factor. I'm probably a C+ / B- level player (B level PvT, C+ level other mu's , averages out) ... and I play between 120-130 apm on average. O_O; | ||
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
Even if your commentary is worthwhile(if it is or isnt is a completely different story). | ||
KwarK
United States44361 Posts
A wider range of options with more diverse uses makes Protoss very friendly for the low apm user who correctly reads his opponent and kills them with a well executed, well timed counter. Even in PvP the range of openings available is far wider than that in TvT and ZvZ. Good mechanical players exist in all three races and are balanced, a technically good player would find no race harder than the other. But I believe a player with limited mechanical skills but good game sense will always find Protoss easier to play with. The low apm, high ranked user anomaly is almost uniquely Protoss. | ||
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KwarK
United States44361 Posts
On October 03 2008 13:50 EvoChamber wrote: I would actually love to see replays of Chill vs. Kwark, btw. I've not played since I got Midiowned and I think Chill was the better of us when we played. The games were fairly underwhelming. The standard of play was high but lower than you'll find in TSL rep packs and nothing strategically unusual. Every now and then I get an urge to get back in shape and own up D rank icc but that's nostalgia speaking. I have no urge to actually play the game anymore. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21552 Posts
On October 03 2008 13:56 Kwark wrote: Protoss is ez mode. It's like game genie codes for SC. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On October 03 2008 13:50 Xeris wrote: I don't know why you keep talking about APM as if it is the most important factor. I'm probably a C+ / B- level player (B level PvT, C+ level other mu's , averages out) ... and I play between 120-130 apm on average. O_O; where'd you finish in the TSL? B is pretty good. | ||
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KwarK
United States44361 Posts
On October 03 2008 14:05 SonuvBob wrote: | ||
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VorcePA
United States1102 Posts
On October 03 2008 13:50 Xeris wrote: I don't know why you keep talking about APM as if it is the most important factor. I'm probably a C+ / B- level player (B level PvT, C+ level other mu's , averages out) ... and I play between 120-130 apm on average. O_O; I don't think APM is the most important factor to everyone everywhere always; it is one of many factors. I do think that the biggest reason that my level of play suffers is because I lack speed (IE, APM). Without derailing my own thread into something about strategy, I generally know how to counter any fairly common build against any race. I cannot, however, quickly and accurately do the micro and macro necessary to execute a proper counter. If I micro, I'll win the battle, but not the war, because my Raxes/Facs/Ports aren't building anything. If I macro, I lose the battle, get pushed and the macro is in vain. So to put it back on to topic: if my commentating is assuredly going to suffer because I'm not a high-tier player, I would like to get better (hell, I'd like to get better just to get better). It doesn't mean I won't commentate until I am better, because there's never going to be an arbitrary point where I decide "Ok, I'm good enough at starcraft to commentate now", but if improving my walk will help my talk, then let the games begin. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On October 03 2008 14:07 Hot_Bid wrote: where'd you finish in the TSL? B is pretty good. I didn't play in TSL at all. I stopped at C+ on ICCUP last season. My PvZ is ok, my PvP is very weak and my PvT is very good. I was able to take games and have really competitive series against Aerials and SchiSm at Canada LAN (both are A- high players)... based on that and seeing that my PvT win % on ICCUP at C+ was about 70% I was assuming that my PvT level is around B... but I know my PvZ is worse, and my PvP is worse still. I played a buttload this summer because I had a ton of free time and devoted some time to improving, and for w/e reason PvT is the matchup that I really improved upon in that time. But ya I didn't figure I'd get anywhere worth mentioning in TSL so I didn't bother playing. | ||
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NiGoL
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
do you know how many good players have had low apm? have you ever seen testie play? what about savior? i watched them both play live at WCG world finals and they weren't dancing around at the 300 level. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On October 03 2008 14:07 Hot_Bid wrote: where'd you finish in the TSL? B is pretty good. he said b only for his pvt though ^^ I think apm isnt that important. I hate it when it when a person judges a person's skill with apm and even more  eapm. | ||
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Deleted User 31996
843 Posts
apm means jack all and only really helps at really really high levels. It's only at these levels where little mechanical tricks make a difference because their game sense and everything else is up to level The only reason i aim at keeping my high apm is cause i know that it will help out when the time comes, and because it just feels *fun*. Also, it isn't that hard to keep a high apm so i don't see why one shouldn't aim at getting high apm while they play and aim to improve their play in general. | ||
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CholeraSC
United States114 Posts
On October 02 2008 03:06 Chill wrote: For the sake of a fully informed discussion, I will. It should also be noted Louder is a retard so that will probably weigh in on my enjoyment. If you had a chance to watch some of this series, I'd appreciate your honest feedback. Tear my commentary a new one, if needed. But at least you would've watched a game before judging, which I suspect most of the responders here, who talk so theoretically about how unlistenable we'd be, have not done. Thx - Cholera | ||
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wo0py
Netherlands922 Posts
Like you have to ask us to try become a commentator. | ||
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Dutch
Canada110 Posts
On October 03 2008 16:18 Xeris wrote: I didn't play in TSL at all. I stopped at C+ on ICCUP last season. My PvZ is ok, my PvP is very weak and my PvT is very good. I was able to take games and have really competitive series against Aerials and SchiSm at Canada LAN (both are A- high players)... based on that and seeing that my PvT win % on ICCUP at C+ was about 70% I was assuming that my PvT level is around B... but I know my PvZ is worse, and my PvP is worse still. I played a buttload this summer because I had a ton of free time and devoted some time to improving, and for w/e reason PvT is the matchup that I really improved upon in that time. But ya I didn't figure I'd get anywhere worth mentioning in TSL so I didn't bother playing. Number 1 I doubt you stopped at C+, you probably just couldn't get any further than that. Number 2 just because pvt is your best mu doesn't mean you are B level pvt player. From what I've seen it's no where close to that. Honestly no offence man but you are massively inflating your skill level you're not very good. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
thanks for your input troll, why don't you post an aka before saying I suck. | ||
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Red9
United States64 Posts
 i would like to watch vods where tasteless and artosis comment together. that would be awesome | ||
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VorcePA
United States1102 Posts
On October 04 2008 00:08 wo0py wrote: All this talk about become a commentator. MAKE A VID and start working on it. Like you have to ask us to try become a commentator. I didn't ask you to try to be a commentator. I asked for resources on becoming a commentator, and actually, chill provided the answer in the very first response on page 1. | ||
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