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Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
May 02 2008 11:28 GMT
#41
He really knows how to push TL.nets buttons. LOL at everyone saying "OMG that NOOB he wants ez-mode SC!!"
Bleh, listen to yourselves. The argument in that article is the relationship between gamespeed/pace and Strategy. NOT the difficulty of a fast game and especially not progaming.

"it's about reflexes, rehearsal of a super-efficient build order, and micromanaging individual unit movement and abilities."

You can´t tell me that these elements are not key to sucsess in SC. Are these really hard intelectually? If we call everything else "Strategy" it would at best make up 50% of the game - that is a LOW number for RTS.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
May 02 2008 11:41 GMT
#42
Relax.
Those who really agree with him are no loss for the starcraft community anway. I disagree with him, but he wrote his toughts in a gaming magazine, that means auto-ignore anyway.

Back in 99 i visited a games shop, you know these shops that died out over time where you could get any game and tons of fanmaterial and the occasional chat with the owners. When we talked about starcraft he told me that fastest is too much for him and that he would allways play on normal.

That doesn't make him an asshole or ignorant slomo noob prick. It's just a guy who has a job that deals with games day in day out. Their aproach to a game is fundamentaly different than for the rest of us who focus on a game over a longer timespan.

And btw. that's the exact reason why blizzard has more than one speed level, so people like him can find other people like him to play on a speed level that they think is best. There's not even room for discussion here. Just play like you want, you have the option.
bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
May 02 2008 11:58 GMT
#43
"I got yelled at a couple times during that trip for hosting a game and setting the speed to normal instead of fast or faster. I yelled back that if the game was supposed to be played at those speeds, they would be called normal"

Thats unbearably noob, my god.
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
May 02 2008 12:23 GMT
#44
at normal speed he's only delaying the inevitable that comes to him during a game =P
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
May 02 2008 12:25 GMT
#45
I wonder what the qualifications to write for a gaming magazine are these days.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
May 02 2008 12:34 GMT
#46
On May 02 2008 10:16 Disarray wrote:
there were a few moments when, while waiting for resources to acumulate or units to build, they felt they "didn't have anything to do." Isn't that when you're suposed to think?


hahaha, sorry I was too busy clicking to think. You really can't expect any better from games magazines though. Someone needs to write them a letter about competitive gaming. Klogon put it better than anybody.
Jortikka
Profile Joined April 2008
Finland16 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 12:44:36
May 02 2008 12:43 GMT
#47
i think he should play turn based strategy games only
noob forever
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
May 02 2008 12:48 GMT
#48
I really hope SC2 comes out with fastest. :O
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
May 02 2008 12:51 GMT
#49
Yes FA that doesn't mean we cannot educate them so we don't run into the same problems with the same people ;p
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 02 2008 13:57 GMT
#50

There was a time when I was very, very good at StarCraft, I had all the keys programmed to my keyboard and would play fast rounds all night long. I stopped playing it years ago but there was a time where I was very good and so I know about StarCraft and I still love StarCraft I know what I am talking about when it comes to that game.


LOL
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
May 02 2008 14:06 GMT
#51
looks like alot of people from TL are posting in this thread
http://www.pcgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39127&sid=327954388f6bf5647d3ffdf331aecbe2


anyways i thought a fastest speed was 100% guaranteed anyways?
#1 Terran hater
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
May 02 2008 14:25 GMT
#52
o god, what have we done, unleashed the beast
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
HypnoticPoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Singapore291 Posts
May 02 2008 14:50 GMT
#53
LOL@the people defending the dan dude, imo, competitive spectator sports should be played at a faster pace, if not viewers will definately get bored. Imagine slow soccer or basketball.........yeah.
MEOW.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
May 02 2008 14:51 GMT
#54
shall we all go and call down the thunder?
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
fcnz
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada26 Posts
May 02 2008 14:56 GMT
#55
fuck Dan and this worthless PCG mag.

Just like the media he is published in (paper mags ... rofl? welcome to 1998), Dan's opinion is useless, outdated and irrelevent.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
May 02 2008 15:11 GMT
#56
I feel sad for the websites that have to fight against us, we are like..damned to own all at any time at any website at everything

Oh well, life goes on.

GO TL!
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
May 02 2008 15:16 GMT
#57
PC Gamer is poo.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
May 02 2008 15:25 GMT
#58
it just all fucking boils down to the fact that Dan THINKS too slow for SC, and so he perceives the game as too fast... he believes that slower = more strategy... obviously he has no idea what the hell he is talking about

i've lost all respect for PC Gamer after they published this piece of crap article written by someone who knows nothing about the subject of his column
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
May 02 2008 15:43 GMT
#59
On May 03 2008 00:25 Gokey wrote:
i've lost all respect for PC Gamer after they published this piece of crap article written by someone who knows nothing about the subject of his column

You had respect for PC Gamer?

It'll be dead soon enough....
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 02 2008 15:50 GMT
#60
On May 02 2008 20:28 Unentschieden wrote:
If we call everything else "Strategy" it would at best make up 50% of the game - that is a LOW number for RTS.


Ummm no, because it's called "real-time" for a reason.
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