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QuanticHawk
United States32049 Posts
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
On May 02 2008 20:28 Unentschieden wrote: If we call everything else "Strategy" it would at best make up 50% of the game - that is a LOW number for RTS. Are you nuts! That's extremely high. It's more like 10 or 20% of the game. And it has more depth to it than any other RTS I know of. | ||
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Igakusei
United States610 Posts
In defense of the casual gamer, most people that play games can only devote a few hours a week because of their other responsibilities or priorities. To such a person, being able to play a game like Sins or Homeworld where they have time to think and formulate and plan before getting crushed is a much more fun gaming experience than logging on b.net and getting crushed by someone with an efficient and pre-planned build order. Like many people have said, higher strategy is invisible to new players. All they can see is the speed and planning, they don't understand the strategy/theory behind it. To use starcraft as an example since that's what we all understand, a new player is thinking: He killed all my mutalisks with scouts, but they have a weak ground attack. I think I'll switch to hydralisks! A better player thinks: I only see one hatchery and just expanded very late, but he has no tech and hasn't made a lot of drones or lings (starts looking for 3rd hatchery). New players want a game where they have time to think and reason, forumate strategies, and execute them. When they run into a game like Starcraft dominated by crazy people like us that play way more than we should, all they see is a mindless clickfest. You can't fault them for that, and all the logic and reason in the world won't make them see otherwise. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
Everyone i have showed sc to feels its way too fast at fastest speed. | ||
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ocoini
648 Posts
On May 02 2008 20:41 Jayson X wrote: Relax. That doesn't make him an asshole or ignorant slomo noob prick. It's just a guy who has a job that deals with games day in day out. Their aproach to a game is fundamentaly different than for the rest of us who focus on a game over a longer timespan. Nailed it  Totally understandable that people that havent dedicated themselves abit to a game, will want it to be more friendly while they play. Normal may be turtle land for us, but it's fine for normal people. | ||
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XDawn
Canada4040 Posts
On May 02 2008 23:06 Highways wrote: looks like alot of people from TL are posting in this thread http://www.pcgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39127&sid=327954388f6bf5647d3ffdf331aecbe2 anyways i thought a fastest speed was 100% guaranteed anyways? TL.net. It is our time to invade. | ||
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XCetron
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On May 03 2008 03:24 XCetron wrote: we dont need the whole forum over there, in fact we should only send respectable members of the community. Dont want any sc2-hyped 20apm noob going over there and flame them in our name. exactly | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5501 Posts
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5501 Posts
I'm sorry to correct you but CoH, World in Conflict, and Sins are all, very much, firmly ensconced in the RTS genre. And I hate to break it to you, also, but not too many genuine strategy gaming fans consider StarCraft to be in any real way strategic. It's loads of fun and all that but it's no more strategic than Roulette is. Seriously. | ||
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fcnz
Canada26 Posts
they should stick to playing The Sims edit: I wonder how long until their slo-mo mods ban me from the pcg forums rofl | ||
Aesop
Hungary11290 Posts
On May 03 2008 04:47 fcnz wrote: i dont give a fuck if they only reply to flames, they ignored the smart shit at first anyways and labeled the smart responses as "hate mail" so fuck all these faggot ass noobs, im all for invading and flaming the fuck out of these retards. If you posted these offensive, aggressive posts on the pcg forum then you are responsible for downing the reputation of the entire starcraft community over there. Good job. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5501 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On May 03 2008 05:00 Aesop wrote: If you posted these offensive, aggressive posts on the pcg forum then you are responsible for downing the reputation of the entire starcraft community over there. Good job. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5501 Posts
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fcnz
Canada26 Posts
On May 03 2008 05:00 Aesop wrote: If you posted these offensive, aggressive posts on the pcg forum then you are responsible for downing the reputation of the entire starcraft community over there. Good job. My god, be a bit more emo? Do you honestly think those retards have the mental capabilities needed to understand this game? Man, oh man. Go read their posts.... By the way, I in no way represent the SC community. I represent myself. If those retards can't take the flak after doing such a piece of trash column, they should take a box of tissues, cry themselves to death and never write for a gaming mag again. And honestly. Who the fuck cares what 20 readers from a useless magazine think? Ive read PCG pre Y2K and never knew they had a forum or cared about it. Most of these kids are only on the forums to brag about how much of a "monster pc" they have and how many fps they can get out of the newest eye-candy no-skill game thats the current flavor of the week. These people will never understand or appreciate esports. Definatly not the audience you want to go for. Personally my best results with converting people to watch SC are people who have played other esports before or people who just enjoy competition (including real sports) period. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On May 03 2008 05:26 jimminy_kriket wrote: Nah, they are seriously ignoring all the good posts. They simply arent going to budge, its quite annoying. i doubt any of them actually have the game. The problem is that flames are so much easier to respond to, so the good posts get skipped. If there were only quality/well-reasoned posts, they would ONLY be able to read and respond to those arguments. FCNZ, you've done nothing but harm those people who are trying to actually explain why the PCG people are wrong in their thinking, and degraded the image of all SC gamers. Even though you're absolutely right and they're totally wrong about everything in this matter, you've acted with the maturity of a 12-yr old. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 03 2008 04:47 fcnz wrote: i dont give a fuck if they only reply to flames, they ignored the smart shit at first anyways and labeled the smart responses as "hate mail" so fuck all these faggot ass noobs, im all for invading and flaming the fuck out of these retards. they should stick to playing The Sims edit: I wonder how long until their slo-mo mods ban me from the pcg forums rofl If you flame them there in our name, I'll ban you here. Sorry but there's absolutely no reason to have PCGamer staff think badly of TL.net. | ||
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