EPTOn October 14 2007 01:31 MindpLay- wrote:
Wooow this is soo close, this favours MBS I guess
Wooow this is soo close, this favours MBS I guess
if by close you mean rigged, then yes it favours MBS.
[Poll] MBS implementation (or not) - Page 9
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
if by close you mean rigged, then yes it favours MBS. | ||
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eL.Virus
Benin14 Posts
So really the pro mbs side has like 50 more votes than it appears to have. So I really don't think that blizzard will take polls like this seriously. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
we could just as easily say that anyone who votes for the other options obviously doesnt want full mbs, so they should be included in anti-mbs. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On October 14 2007 01:35 IdrA wrote: actually no, it massively favours anti-mbs, on this site. which is what the poll was to determine we already knew bnet newbs and the like would prefer mbs. This poll was utterly unnecessary. It's mind-numbingly obvious that TL wants no MBS, and other people want MBS. edit: So really, it boils down to: TL.net vs World? | ||
LosingID8
CA10830 Posts
On October 14 2007 02:32 Cambium wrote: it boils down to TL + Korea + much of GG.net as well vs "world"This poll was utterly unnecessary. It's mind-numbingly obvious that TL wants no MBS, and other people want MBS. edit: So really, it boils down to: TL.net vs World? | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
multiple people have said that since we havent seen anything from the koreans it means they dont care. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
Anyway, what do Koreans say about this? Is this debated as much as on English sites? | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On October 14 2007 02:58 BlackStar wrote: You read the bnet forums to much, I swear that 50 to 1 quotes comes up every 10seconds on that forum. High level players easily 50+ to 1, total players in general not a chance at even 10 to 1 or even less that than.Aren't there like 50 Korean SC players for every foreign SC player? Anyway, what do Koreans say about this? Is this debated as much as on English sites? | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
On October 14 2007 02:48 LosingID8 wrote: it boils down to TL + Korea + much of GG.net as well vs noobs Fixed. | ||
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eL.Virus
Benin14 Posts
Sell non mbs sc2 in asia and europe and sell mbs sc2 in usa/can/mexico Seriously only like .01% of american fans don't want mbs. e-Sports just isn't a big thing in the usa right now and most people don't care. | ||
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eL.Virus
Benin14 Posts
This attitude is exactly why lots of people don't like this site. Plenty of players have been playing sc for years and don't think that mbs will ruin sc2. Saying that anyone who disagrees with you is a noob is not going to make people take your opinion seriously. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On October 14 2007 04:10 eL.Virus wrote: Simple solution. Sell non mbs sc2 in asia and europe and sell mbs sc2 in usa/can/mexico Seriously only like .01% of american fans don't want mbs. e-Sports just isn't a big thing in the usa right now and most people don't care. Umm, stupid idea. If esports isn't as big as you say in North America why the fuck would Blizzard want to cater to it? Just make it without MBS and let the newbies (that's what they are) play a few casual games and move on like they would anyway. Most of the people that would sustain the game and currently sustain BW do not want MBS in despite this fucked up poll. | ||
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eL.Virus
Benin14 Posts
On October 14 2007 04:39 mahnini wrote: Umm, stupid idea. If esports isn't as big as you say in North America why the fuck would Blizzard want to cater to it? Just make it without MBS and let the newbies (that's what they are) play a few casual games and move on like they would anyway. Most of the people that would sustain the game and currently sustain BW do not want MBS in despite this fucked up poll. Because clearly blizzard doesn't want to piss off 90% of their north american fanbase by selling them an outdated rehash of sc. MONEY=GOOD. GET MORE MONEY BY MAKING GAME APPEAL TO LARGER FANBASE WHICH MEANS MBS IN AMERICA. | ||
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Jolle
Norway185 Posts
What about something simular in SC2? It would solve a lot of "problems" playability vs pro-gaming. And the promod would be more focused towards the hardcore community and their wishes istead of mass-marked sales. | ||
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eL.Virus
Benin14 Posts
Diablo II for example used a hardcore ladder and a softcore ladder and did just fine. | ||
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
Don't try. Its clear from the debates about this topic that almost anyone who has played SC at a high level vehemently oppose MBS. Its okay to have your opinion, its not okay to pretend that somehow expert consensus is split or even agrees with you. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On October 14 2007 02:48 LosingID8 wrote: it boils down to TL + Korea + much of GG.net as well vs "world" I'm all for mbs and I'm from tl. I think it's hilarious that you guys don't understand how extremely retarded not adding mbs would be. "hey lets limit the interface so you have to click more just for the reason that you have to be faster to play it" | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On October 14 2007 06:56 Frits wrote: I'm all for mbs and I'm from tl. I think it's hilarious that you guys don't understand how extremely retarded not adding mbs would be. "hey lets limit the interface so you have to click more just for the reason that you have to be faster to play it" ... I just don't have the energy to repeat my argument one more time. I thought someone like you would have at least read things through before making a post like this -_- | ||
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noobienoob
United States1173 Posts
On October 14 2007 06:56 Frits wrote: I agree with this guy. I'm all for mbs and I'm from tl. I think it's hilarious that you guys don't understand how extremely retarded not adding mbs would be. "hey lets limit the interface so you have to click more just for the reason that you have to be faster to play it" I haven't read all the posts in this thread and all the other MBS threads, but the general consensus I've gotten is that the majority of "veteran" TL.net doesn't want MBS, and all the wannabe people who want to fit in are just jumping on the bandwagon. MBS is really not that bad, sure it makes things a bit easier for noobs, but it gets rid of the z3z4z5z6d7d8d9d0t useless hotkey spamming or click-z-click-z-click-z-click-z-click-z which in my opinion is the right way to go with the game. Yeah, the lack of MBS in SC&BW and the heavy emphasis on macro is a huge part of what makes it competitive, but this is going to be a new game. If you want to stick to the way Starcraft is, just play Starcraft. Not having MBS in SCII is pretty ridiculous, as it really doesn't change much in the game except for making it easier for people with bad macro. You still have to go and choose different units for each gateway/factory/barracks/whatever if you want a mix for your units, which will most likely be the best way to go; it's not like people are always going to be massing one unit (15 gate fastest map Dragoons ftw?). edit: so the z3z4z5z6d7d8d9d0t example would turn into something like, 3z(4gates)4d(3gates)5t(1gate), or click on a gate and build templar, and the unit compositions will be constantly changing depending on what the other player has, so it really isn't that much easier. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
thats been discussed in 3 threads, and even pro-mbs people agree it isnt a valid argument. games have to have some limitations or theyre no fun. do you want the game to do everything for you? no. an arbitrary line has to be drawn somewhere. its just a matter of where. | ||
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