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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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The_Masked_Shrimp
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On June 11 2016 16:57 deth2munkies wrote: Old content has been irrelevant for a long time. With the rise of transmog, do you really want old raids and dungeons to no longer be soloable? As far as in-expansion content, I'm not adverse to the old gear up path of Heroic Dungeons -> Normal Raid -> Heroic Raid -> Mythic Raid coming back and being relevant, but I'm not going to pretend Heroic Dungeons are going to matter in a year and a half when the last raid tier of Legion is out. It's never been that way. If you were still running Heroic Shadow Labs and trying to use that to gear up for Black Temple, you were doing it wrong. Well as i'm only a solo player, soling raid is cool. What i am NOT OKAY with is to solo MC with a level 61 Blood DK in start gear. Ok with max level. Not with 1level above tier. I'm okay soloing Firelands with a level 100 toon. I'm not okay to solo BC heroic with a level 71warlock. The squish is REALLY too much. I really liked how solo old content was in mop. With non raid gear, you could die in MC (ok maybe not MC) but i remember downing onyxia with my level 90 shaman heal on timeless gear and was proud of myself | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
The "before was better" complex. It's everywhere, in every field, since as long as people have lived. I don't think that earlier versions of the game were outright better but it's easy to see that they have created a lot of new and highly flawed systems | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On June 15 2016 10:22 Cyro wrote: I don't think that earlier versions of the game were outright better but it's easy to see that they have created a lot of new and highly flawed systems And they've gotten rid of even more flawed systems that existed before. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
And they've gotten rid of even more flawed systems that existed before. Doesn't mean that you should stop improving things :D | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On June 15 2016 12:30 Cyro wrote: Doesn't mean that you should stop improving things :D Just pointing out there's a lot more good than bad in the changes. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On June 15 2016 13:07 deth2munkies wrote: Just pointing out there's a lot more good than bad in the changes. Which is your opinion, not the general public's. Earlier expansions were very well received by players, just since MoP did the complaints really start. | ||
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Fatmatt2000
United States159 Posts
Not to mention, people really hated cata, it was my understanding that if you could get past the whole panda thing the cotent was much better in Mop than the previous expansion anyways. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On June 15 2016 13:56 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Which is your opinion, not the general public's. Earlier expansions were very well received by players, just since MoP did the complaints really start. Not really, first heavy complaints that I noticed started rolling in with cata. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22283 Posts
On June 15 2016 13:56 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Which is your opinion, not the general public's. Earlier expansions were very well received by players, just since MoP did the complaints really start. WotLK was the worst expansion ever made, it was the death of wow and the birth of entitled Wrath babies. Or so people endlessly told us during Wrath. Then Cata came, same thing. Then MoP came, same thing. Then WoD came, same thing. Now Legion is coming and in 6 months it will probably be the same again. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On June 15 2016 18:37 Gorsameth wrote: WotLK was the worst expansion ever made, it was the death of wow and the birth of entitled Wrath babies. Or so people endlessly told us during Wrath. Then Cata came, same thing. Then MoP came, same thing. Then WoD came, same thing. Now Legion is coming and in 6 months it will probably be the same again. Me personally im always the opposite i think the only expansion i thought ermm ok was MoP when trailers etc came out and what they were gonna give us. However every other expansion i have thought omg wow is gonna be so good this is amazing etc. For the same stuff to happen for me personally aka, i burn out within first 6-8months and lose interest. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Or so people endlessly told us during Wrath. Player base has rotated quite a lot since then, especially with the target audience for the game changing | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22283 Posts
On June 15 2016 20:20 Cyro wrote: Player base has rotated quite a lot since then, especially with the target audience for the game changing Certainly, and its often different people complaining about different things. I was just responding to the notion that before MoP the expansions were not hated. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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RvB
Netherlands6272 Posts
On June 15 2016 20:29 Gorsameth wrote: Certainly, and its often different people complaining about different things. I was just responding to the notion that before MoP the expansions were not hated. You missed tbc. Full if whiners (including myself at that time) | ||
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bObaZ
Portugal864 Posts
Does it make sense for me to invest in a garrison? I don't play seriously since TBC. I Raided a lot during TBC, but after that i only played like 2 months of Cata and 1 Month of MoP. I have 2 level 90s (a warlock and a monk). Since i'm going to play casually, i only want to have one char. I'm starting this weekend, does it make sense to still invest on Garrisons? I've read blizz is going to remove a lot of stuff from the garrisons. Other than that, does it make sense to invest in professions? I have maxed out Tailor/Enchanting on my Lock, but since i only had the monk for a month i have like 100 mining and 100 JC. What would be the best professions for a monk? Since i think i'm going to main a MW Monk in Legion with Brewmaster offspec. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22283 Posts
On June 15 2016 21:44 bObaZ wrote: I'm getting back to the game. Does it make sense for me to invest in a garrison? I don't play seriously since TBC. I Raided a lot during TBC, but after that i only played like 2 months of Cata and 1 Month of MoP. I have 2 level 90s (a warlock and a monk). Since i'm going to play casually, i only want to have one char. I'm starting this weekend, does it make sense to still invest on Garrisons? I've read blizz is going to remove a lot of stuff from the garrisons. Other than that, does it make sense to invest in professions? I have maxed out Tailor/Enchanting on my Lock, but since i only had the monk for a month i have like 100 mining and 100 JC. What would be the best professions for a monk? Since i think i'm going to main a MW Monk in Legion with Brewmaster offspec. You might aswell yes, pre-patch is still a while away and you need a level 3 garrison to unlock Tanaar which lets you gear up for Legion leveling. What they are removing is the 'free gold'. Your probably not going to get the gold train rolling before then but free gold is free gold I say :p Havnt checked out Legion professions so can't help much there but you can gather/craft from rank 1 in both WoD and Legion so its not that big of a deal. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10877 Posts
On June 15 2016 21:35 RvB wrote: You missed tbc. Full if whiners (including myself at that time) I wasn't in a hardcore guild during TBC but we raided 2-3 times a week, we still managed to kill Brutallos when Wrath hit. The only things truely bad in TBC was: Early Bossbalance and later attunments were too much, having to run thru Gruul/Vashj/Kael/Mt.Hyal to get a new guildmember into Black Temple was just annoying as hell. Heroic instances were a bit too crowdcontrol heavy, they were fun if you had the right classes but making them hard "another way" would have been better. What Wotlk did was introduce „easy as fuck heroics“ and that didn’t sit well with many people. Well, as far as i’m concerned the dungeon finder + „do the same raid 3 times because we can’t be bothered to add actual content“ finally killed wow completly. Early Cata was fun, then they nerfed all the heroics, which were too easy anyway, especially when you take into account that gear would make them trivial way too fast either way. FFS 30 minutes after i hit maxlevel i walked into a Heroic instance with some guildmates that also dinged in the last 3-4 hours, we cleared 2 instances being 20 Itemlevels under the minimum requirement to use the dungeon teleport/finder for Heroics ^^… That was some oft he most fun i had in WoW because shit was actually really hard and 1 missed interrupt or something like that meant that you would wipe ^^. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On June 16 2016 00:03 Velr wrote: I wasn't in a hardcore guild during TBC but we raided 2-3 times a week, we still managed to kill Brutallos when Wrath hit. The only things truely bad in TBC was: Early Bossbalance and later attunments were too much, having to run thru Gruul/Vashj/Kael/Mt.Hyal to get a new guildmember into Black Temple was just annoying as hell. Heroic instances were a bit too crowdcontrol heavy, they were fun if you had the right classes but making them hard "another way" would have been better. What Wotlk did was introduce „easy as fuck heroics“ and that didn’t sit well with many people. Well, as far as i’m concerned the dungeon finder + „do the same raid 3 times because we can’t be bothered to add actual content“ finally killed wow completly. Early Cata was fun, then they nerfed all the heroics, which were too easy anyway, especially when you take into account that gear would make them trivial way too fast either way. FFS 30 minutes after i hit maxlevel i walked into a Heroic instance with some guildmates that also dinged in the last 3-4 hours, we cleared 2 instances being 20 Itemlevels under the minimum requirement to use the dungeon teleport/finder for Heroics ^^… That was some oft he most fun i had in WoW because shit was actually really hard and 1 missed interrupt or something like that meant that you would wipe ^^. Early Cata raiding and heroics were some of my favorite times in WoW. I remember playing a healer and having massive heart attacks trying to keep everyone alive when they screwed up in a heroic. Heroic Grim Batol was an adventure in the early days that was nerfed into oblivion a month or 2 after release. That was the time in my WoW career that I basically built my own raiding guild and tried to lead a bunch of people that never raided before through normal content. The people were nice and it was honestly fun teaching people, even if we did move a lot more slowly than a good guild. Heroic Maloriak can suck a dick though. | ||
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