EPTMistweaver with heirlooms seems really strong though, like whenever I do dungeons I can do the highest DPS if I don't have to heal, and MW has a really strong PvP talent for questing (60 sec cooldown for +35% damage for 15 sec that also gives so much healing that you're invincible). And of course monk gets a 60 min +50% exp buff every day, but it's not actually +50% since it's not multiplicative with other exp buffs, and I've done a decent amount of leveling without it.
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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
NonY
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Mistweaver with heirlooms seems really strong though, like whenever I do dungeons I can do the highest DPS if I don't have to heal, and MW has a really strong PvP talent for questing (60 sec cooldown for +35% damage for 15 sec that also gives so much healing that you're invincible). And of course monk gets a 60 min +50% exp buff every day, but it's not actually +50% since it's not multiplicative with other exp buffs, and I've done a decent amount of leveling without it. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On July 26 2018 00:08 NonY wrote: So updates on me leveling my alt. I heard that 60+ was hell but I have not noticed any difference between late 50's and early 60's. Exp required to level up is steadily going up and exp rewards do not keep pace, so it's very gradually taking longer each level. But if anything it's faster since Northrend has good quest density and I can fly now and the quests aren't designed for flying, so the 60's have been fast so far. I don't see any reason why this is gonna change in the 70's, 80's, etc but I guess I'll see. Mistweaver with heirlooms seems really strong though, like whenever I do dungeons I can do the highest DPS if I don't have to heal, and MW has a really strong PvP talent for questing (60 sec cooldown for +35% damage for 15 sec that also gives so much healing that you're invincible). And of course monk gets a 60 min +50% exp buff every day, but it's not actually +50% since it's not multiplicative with other exp buffs, and I've done a decent amount of leveling without it. I thought BC/Wrath were quite slow, Cata/Mop seemed a lot faster. my lock got 80-83 off 2 dungeons + about half of hyjal. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
@Nony I am also playing a Mistweaver and am only healing in dungeons and really like it as well. But how do you quest as a MW? Which PvP talent do you mean? | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 26 2018 01:33 arb wrote: I thought BC/Wrath were quite slow, Cata/Mop seemed a lot faster. my lock got 80-83 off 2 dungeons + about half of hyjal. BC\Wrath on a monk for me were really fast, was a bit slower in WOD coz I never played it and no fly... MOP was a breeze to and I wasnt really speeding cuz I skipped MOP aswell so I pretty much played Zones to completion (and with monk and heirloom buffs that meant basically just jade forest and maybe 15-20 percent of Valley. (I did do dungeons but queued DPS and didnt really care if I got ques by the time I was done, maybe like 5-6 runs. To be fair though as WW its really easy to play relatively risk free and still pullas much as you can within a shared aggro area. I left one alt at 94 3 months ago I came back this week to WOD leveling and it feels alot slower but not painfully so. | ||
micronesia
United States24768 Posts
edit: oh I probably need to do an embassy questline on a horde character first... that might make sense. I guess I'll just rep grind for the other races for now. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On July 26 2018 10:06 micronesia wrote: Maybe I don't understand how allied races work but.... I am exalted with the Nighborne and completed the achievement Insurrection, both on my alliance toon and so I think I should be able to create a nighborne at lvl 20... why am I not able to? You need to do all of the requirements in order to unlock the quest chain on the faction that the allied race belongs to. The race is a reward at the end of that quest chain. | ||
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Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
They already stealth nerfed it from the 2/4/6/8/10% to 1/3/4/5/7% hp per 3 seconds between yesterday and today, but its still pretty brutal on some specific pulls in dungeons. I am a little worried since its super hard now, but its possible that by the end of the expac its a non factor depending how well we scale up in burst healing. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
From what I've heard and from some of the posts here, I think I may be giving up my warlock and trying my Monk again. I swear they made some changes to pet behavior and I am constantly being driven crazy by some of the behaviors I see now. I suppose I need to play around with Destro a bit more and see if I like that better. I got caught up with the story and am otherwise unsure of what to spend time on with my main. I still need flying and want to try the new races, but both are locked behind Rep grinds that will likely take me until BFA is out anyways... so no real motivation there. Am I missing anything? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On July 27 2018 06:24 Gorsameth wrote: Same as every other pre-expansion event. Legion Pre-release was amazing. Not only was it epic seeing hordes of Demons invading all over but it was scaled so you could bring alts into the invasions and get great Exp. but yea, other than that one you are right | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/ppdJSyx.png) https://i.imgur.com/ppdJSyx.png Lots of new info there I do feel really bad for the devs, it's become more clear that there are a bunch of em working 14 hour days and weekends; servers going down most days of the week even into the second day of prepatch for new builds, several times with no or with 15 min warning. The high higher ups (above Ion) set the game on fire and they are just trying to fix it up as best they can. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On July 27 2018 10:53 Cyro wrote: I do feel really bad for the devs, it's become more clear that there are a bunch of em working 14 hour days and weekends; servers going down most days of the week even into the second day of prepatch for new builds, several times with no or with 15 min warning. The high higher ups (above Ion) set the game on fire and they are just trying to fix it up as best they can. Have not been following, what is on fire? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
After the stats squish the leveling experience is really bad and a lot of the legacy content is way too hard. Even if you do struggle through it, the exp you get rewarded with is/was a joke, so reddit was on fire and people are complaining non-stop. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Class design unpolished or unfinished in several places, general bugs (some to classes and exp rewards), unintended graphical and client performance changes, stat squish gone wrong which messed up leveling and broke antorus for a week (antorus has had enough bandaid fixes to be decently functional after the 8'th day of the prepatch, leveling hasn't - see the above picture that i posted). We've had maintenance almost every day with them pushing new builds related to prepatch bugs. They do this on the same time for Beta, US and EU so the timing is pretty much yolo, has been down for 5 hours through peak time a couple times with either no warning or a 15 minute message that the server is going down. One of the darkmoon cards made all of our spells have no fury cost during the first week, people are still using a vendor warglaive that does more DPS than the artifact. They were clearly forced to deploy before prepatch and expansion were ready. Looking back at 7.3.5 (last major patch) they had a similar issue due to rushing in a feature that was supposed to save memory for the 32-bit client and pushing the build to live without testing it in order to meet a deadline. It did save memory but it also made the game run at 10fps whenever you were around a raid of people in combat for the next week or so until they reverted the build and pushed a new one without the rushed change. That was a much simpler fix than the wide range of 8.0 issues but it's a symptom of the same problem, it releases when it releases and you'd better pull enough 14 hour weekends to make it ready enough to not be a complete disaster. It's a nightmare for both players & devs. | ||
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NonY
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On July 26 2018 07:28 Musicus wrote: Also reached the sixties now, it's quite slow, but as NonY said, not slower than the late 50s and flying helps. Looking forward to level 80 and leveling faster in MoP. 90-110 is a breeze I think. @Nony I am also playing a Mistweaver and am only healing in dungeons and really like it as well. But how do you quest as a MW? Which PvP talent do you mean? Way of the Crane. Also when you can use Thunder Focus Tea to reduce the cooldown of RSK, you can go RSK -> TP -> RSK -> BoK and burst most stuff down. If there's ever a high concentration of mobs, then I pull as many as possible, pop Way of the Crane, and spam Spinning Crane Kick. The more mobs you attack, the more you heal, and they can't burst you down, so it's perfectly safe. Otherwise I will pop Way of the Crane on my way to single mobs just for the damage boost. A hotfix just reduced the health of mobs so things are dying really fast now. I'm about to hit 78 and switch to WW though, which should be better for questing once Mastery kicks in. like so: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MsS0s7LMM6npTfVLR3fIrK7P2p3U1ckF I used Fortifying Brew but it wasn't necessary on that pull. If you gather a lot of mobs and they do decent damage, you might take a beating before you pop Way of the Crane and heal up, so I've had a few dangerous moments. But with that hotfix reducing damage and hp, it's not dangerous at all anymore. On the topic of leveling being slow (seeing a lot of complaints on the subreddit), I feel like people are too entitled. Most of them probably have received 3 free boosts (WoD, Legion, BfA), have a DH that started at 98, a DK that started at 55, and also probably leveled a few alts when it was super easy and fast, if not from dungeon spam with heirlooms when that was fast, then during the Legion pre-patch event. On top of that, the complainers probably have enough gold to buy enough tokens to pay for a boost. And what are they doing with all these alts? It's ridiculous. If they don't want to level alts then don't level alts. The BfA experience will be fine without a 7th character at 110. And if this is all about the transmog set for leveling an allied race, oh my god they're not that great and no one will even use them that much, if at all. If you want to play an allied race then use gold for tokens for a race change or a boost. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
I like the general flow of 7.3.5 era and i'd put most of my focus/criticism on things that don't fit well into it - some classes not functioning well at lower levels, levels in the 60-80 range taking much longer than in the 1-40 or 100-110 range etc. The sudden and harsh increase in mob/hp damage when you ding from 39 to 40, as 35 was probably a bit easy and 40 too hard relative to each other - the scaling could have been smoother and less sudden. Stuff like Classic, TBC and WOTLK content all being available at level 60 and giving the same exp while the dungeon bosses in one expansion had 2-4x more health and damage than the others which led to some dungeons at the same level being very easy and others being PUG killers that would go through 20 people in the LFG tool and then disband, that all needs to be polished out. I haven't revisited it for a while to check if a lot of that stuff was dealt with via undocumented changes (+ Ion confirmed that exp curve changes are coming to make 60-80 similar or faster to the levels above it soon) but my impression from forums and talking to others was that the second squish made many of those numerical inconsistencies far worse. I can understand why a lot of people would be annoyed at that. "It will be fixed/improved" followed by half a year of mostly radio silence and then breaking a lot of stuff further isn't a good message. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 29 2018 01:01 NonY wrote: Way of the Crane. Also when you can use Thunder Focus Tea to reduce the cooldown of RSK, you can go RSK -> TP -> RSK -> BoK and burst most stuff down. If there's ever a high concentration of mobs, then I pull as many as possible, pop Way of the Crane, and spam Spinning Crane Kick. The more mobs you attack, the more you heal, and they can't burst you down, so it's perfectly safe. Otherwise I will pop Way of the Crane on my way to single mobs just for the damage boost. A hotfix just reduced the health of mobs so things are dying really fast now. I'm about to hit 78 and switch to WW though, which should be better for questing once Mastery kicks in. like so: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MsS0s7LMM6npTfVLR3fIrK7P2p3U1ckF I used Fortifying Brew but it wasn't necessary on that pull. If you gather a lot of mobs and they do decent damage, you might take a beating before you pop Way of the Crane and heal up, so I've had a few dangerous moments. But with that hotfix reducing damage and hp, it's not dangerous at all anymore. On the topic of leveling being slow (seeing a lot of complaints on the subreddit), I feel like people are too entitled. Most of them probably have received 3 free boosts (WoD, Legion, BfA), have a DH that started at 98, a DK that started at 55, and also probably leveled a few alts when it was super easy and fast, if not from dungeon spam with heirlooms when that was fast, then during the Legion pre-patch event. On top of that, the complainers probably have enough gold to buy enough tokens to pay for a boost. And what are they doing with all these alts? It's ridiculous. If they don't want to level alts then don't level alts. The BfA experience will be fine without a 7th character at 110. And if this is all about the transmog set for leveling an allied race, oh my god they're not that great and no one will even use them that much, if at all. If you want to play an allied race then use gold for tokens for a race change or a boost. Didnt you have a monk already iirc ? Why level another one ? | ||
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