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BfA Community Links:
GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde
TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde
TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance
TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde
TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance
Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv

On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
July 22 2018 08:28 GMT
#8201
is there a TL EU guild?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
July 22 2018 08:36 GMT
#8202
Link to our TL EU Horde community on the new page.

https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
July 22 2018 09:00 GMT
#8203
if people make multiple communities let me know I'll add it to the mod note.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
July 23 2018 01:53 GMT
#8204
On July 22 2018 16:23 Unleashing wrote:
When you pick animal companion your main pet deals less damage so it's not quite as good as it seems.

Of course that's not mentioned in the tooltip or anything :^)

Classic. Thanks lol.
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1110 Posts
July 23 2018 06:15 GMT
#8205
On July 22 2018 15:50 Duka08 wrote:
Ok so I know nothing about modern hunters, but I'm leveling one just for nostalgia's sake, and I had a curiosity. In the first tier of BM talents, there's:

Killer Instinct - Kill Command deals 50% increased damage against enemies below 35% health.
Animal Companion - Your Call Pet additionally summons the first pet from your stable. This pet will obey your Kill Command, but cannot use pet family abilities.

So even ignoring the "benefits" of having another pet auto attacking or whatever which probably isn't that important, isn't that basically like comparing "Kill Command SOMETIMES does 50% more damage" to "Kill Command ALWAYS does DOUBLE damage"? Two Kill Commands for the price of one with Animal Companion? Or am I missing something silly


50% != double damage . All the tier1 talents are very close in terms of damage, especially for leveling. Killer instinct might be costing you more damage due to overkill waste. For leveling I would personally either use dire beast or ac.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
July 23 2018 07:49 GMT
#8206
On July 22 2018 17:36 Musicus wrote:
Link to our TL EU Horde community on the new page.

https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde


Is there an alliance guild also? I have both horde and alliance characters.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10979 Posts
July 23 2018 09:53 GMT
#8207
So i reactivated yesterday and quested a bit because i'm not sure about what to play yet.

Is it just the leveling experience that is totally out of whack? I took my 10X Twinks out to see if i want to reroll into one of These.
Tried Afflilock (with no weapon? Because the one i had was Demo) and he is a god.
Tried Elemental Shaman (with inactive weapon, I guess) and he is just hilariously bad aside from "the stars aligned and you get all the proccs").

I also did the pre BFA Questline that sends you to silitius on my old main Priest... Uhm, 4-5 extremly boring/standard quests and thats it? Nothing happens and it doesn't lead anywhere? Did i miss something?


Most likely i will end up with my Priest again, as i allways do since Classic... But i wonder, was Elemental Shaman in any addon ever "good"?
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-23 10:27:03
July 23 2018 10:24 GMT
#8208
Silithus questline lead to the supercharged artifacts which are now gone.

Also elemental shaman is good, i don't think it's the best DPS spec but it's definitely good.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-23 10:54:35
July 23 2018 10:26 GMT
#8209
On July 23 2018 18:53 Velr wrote:
So i reactivated yesterday and quested a bit because i'm not sure about what to play yet.

Is it just the leveling experience that is totally out of whack? I took my 10X Twinks out to see if i want to reroll into one of These.
Tried Afflilock (with no weapon? Because the one i had was Demo) and he is a god.
Tried Elemental Shaman (with inactive weapon, I guess) and he is just hilariously bad aside from "the stars aligned and you get all the proccs").

I also did the pre BFA Questline that sends you to silitius on my old main Priest... Uhm, 4-5 extremly boring/standard quests and thats it? Nothing happens and it doesn't lead anywhere? Did i miss something?


Most likely i will end up with my Priest again, as i allways do since Classic... But i wonder, was Elemental Shaman in any addon ever "good"?

Yes, the leveling is a bit out of whack. Not only did they rework old content leveling, but the BFA stats squish apparently affected that too.


Current BFA quest line in Silithus is like a pre-pre-expansion. It has been in the game when the last raid tier was introduced and ongoing. Blizzard has added quest or two to the whole thing afterwards.

Quest line & event(s) that are happening for this pre-bfa patch are coming out this week.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-23 15:32:35
July 23 2018 14:48 GMT
#8210
On July 22 2018 16:23 Unleashing wrote:
When you pick animal companion your main pet deals less damage so it's not quite as good as it seems. Killer instinct generally outperforms it by a significant amount.

In fact on single-target animal companion is a very slight DPS loss right now.


:x

Stuff is pretty screwed in general right now, lower level experience is broken. 100+ seems okay but inconsistent as far as i've heard and the 110 raids were extremely overtuned. Old raids got a blanket 1.45x nerf to health and damage but Antorus is still OP.

8.0 launched with a huge lack of polish and some features missing / pushed to 8.1 - 8.1.5

---

They actually made major nerfs to the environment detail slider in BFA seemingly on purpose, and maybe to the other sliders as well. There are some actual numbers on this, e.g. "lodObjectCullSize" being 18 on the absolute max of the slider while it was 10 or less based on some comparison screenshots in Legion, lower being better.

That will lower graphics and raise FPS for everyone that hasn't set these variables manually outside of the WoW options menu.

After a bit of digging it seems that 5 on the Legion slider was equal to 10 on BFA.

[image loading]
^Legion

[image loading]
^BFA on max slider (note the trees and other objects around towns in the background; the foreground is the same)

After correcting some of these settings to approximate my Legion settings as best as i can, the hit from 8.0 has dramatically increased.. It has become obvious that i had more like 50% higher FPS on my Legion 7.3.5 benchmark than i do in 8.0 in the same zone, same flight path. Fuck that.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
July 23 2018 15:43 GMT
#8211
On July 23 2018 15:15 Agh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2018 15:50 Duka08 wrote:
Ok so I know nothing about modern hunters, but I'm leveling one just for nostalgia's sake, and I had a curiosity. In the first tier of BM talents, there's:

Killer Instinct - Kill Command deals 50% increased damage against enemies below 35% health.
Animal Companion - Your Call Pet additionally summons the first pet from your stable. This pet will obey your Kill Command, but cannot use pet family abilities.

So even ignoring the "benefits" of having another pet auto attacking or whatever which probably isn't that important, isn't that basically like comparing "Kill Command SOMETIMES does 50% more damage" to "Kill Command ALWAYS does DOUBLE damage"? Two Kill Commands for the price of one with Animal Companion? Or am I missing something silly


50% != double damage .

No no, I meant Killer Instinct is "50% more sometimes" (execute range), Animal Companion READS like "double damage ALL times" which seems obviously better, but apparently has a stealth nerf to your main pet to compensate.

But yeah I probably wouldn't use KI for leveling regardless since low health stuff rarely matters for ordinary mobs
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10979 Posts
July 23 2018 16:18 GMT
#8212
I just wonder what the Devs were smoking when they made shadow word: death a talent.... This is just wrooong.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4275 Posts
July 23 2018 18:23 GMT
#8213
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
TL+ Member
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
July 23 2018 19:01 GMT
#8214
Jaina's hatred towards Horde keeps growing. This gon' be good.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22675 Posts
July 23 2018 19:12 GMT
#8215
And the path that inevitable ends up with Jaina as a raid boss trying to blow up everything continues.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
July 23 2018 19:18 GMT
#8216
Seems to me that there is going to be a lot of Old God influence incoming this Expac. That seems to be the most likely way that we would see Jaina as a raid boss imo.
I can take that responsibility.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 23 2018 19:19 GMT
#8217
I mean we've known about the old god stuff basically since BFA was announced
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22675 Posts
July 23 2018 19:27 GMT
#8218
On July 24 2018 04:18 Tictock wrote:
Seems to me that there is going to be a lot of Old God influence incoming this Expac. That seems to be the most likely way that we would see Jaina as a raid boss imo.
Queen Azshara under the influence of the last Old God N'zoth is speculated to be the 2nd raid tier with the 3e being N'zoth himself.

Donno how reliable that is tho.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
July 23 2018 19:37 GMT
#8219
On July 24 2018 04:01 Grettin wrote:
Jaina's hatred towards Horde keeps growing. This gon' be good.


Blizzard should bring back Thrall from retirement and have Jaina kill him to take revenge for her father's death. Since Metzen left Thrall has been lost in writing limbo, so they would hit two birds with one stone.

Faction war goes into overdrive and many horde players would get their reason to rally behind Sylvanas.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-23 19:41:46
July 23 2018 19:40 GMT
#8220
On July 24 2018 04:37 maze. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2018 04:01 Grettin wrote:
Jaina's hatred towards Horde keeps growing. This gon' be good.


Blizzard should bring back Thrall from retirement and have Jaina kill him to take revenge for her father's death. Since Metzen left Thrall has been lost in writing limbo, so they would hit two birds with one stone.

Faction war goes into overdrive and many horde players would get their reason to rally behind Sylvanas.


I agree with you, but IMO Metzen is Thrall and unless he wants to do VA for it, I don't see thrall coming back anytime soon.

Also regarding Jaina being a boss at some point, I'd find it fitting if Thrall would be there during the encounter or afterwards.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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