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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Cyro
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
This also adds to my opinion this won't even be in beta until after BlizzCon 2018. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 16 2017 00:43 Pandemona wrote: Yeah exactly, people all called for Vanilla servers, however every single person has a different idea of where patch wise it should start. This also adds to my opinion this won't even be in beta until after BlizzCon 2018. They already said not before 2019 atleast at the panel iirc. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I didn't remember hearing that release time but i didn't watch the two saturday panels. I am not hyped nor against it, if some section of gamers wanted it im glad they get a proper version instead of all the pirate servers. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 16 2017 00:58 Pandemona wrote: MMO champion sub forum "thought" it was going to be before that and the whole sub forum is a toxic ces pit of people who think it will cause millions of new subscriptions and those who just post in it to shit on the whole idea xD I didn't remember hearing that release time but i didn't watch the two saturday panels. I am not hyped nor against it, if some section of gamers wanted it im glad they get a proper version instead of all the pirate servers. They didnt give a release time, I was AT the panel and then the Q & A where someone asked for a definite time. Aside from the long protracted joke about ice cream flavors there was nothing concrete about any of it. They will do it for sure, but timelines and what the finished product will look like was very vague. They dont really know themselves what they are going to do when it comes to details and they were pretty upfront about it. | ||
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lestye
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22085 Posts
On November 16 2017 01:38 lestye wrote: Ok you guys convinced me the armor sets thing wont be as bad as I think it would be. I suppose I kinda tire of Blizzard taking shit out of the game and then later put in another expansion to excite me. Whether it be unique utility, raid buffs, glyphs, CC abilities, etc. Oh it might be completely terrible, we don't know enough about it yet to determine that :p Imo it all hinges on how the Azurite system works and as far as I know we have next to no details about it at this time. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
 It feels bad to be doing 25% the HPS of more geared people. I was looking at the logs and there's so much information I don't really understand how to assess it. My ilvl performance was as high as 90 and as low as 18 so I guess one problem is consistency. What am I looking for to see how to improve? Cooldown utilization % and damage taken to mechanics? | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
If you had a lot less heal than another healer it may be that he just outsniped you. | ||
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On November 16 2017 03:02 Warri wrote: People came and left but it was like 2 tanks 4 healers 14 DPS roughly.unless you went like 2/2/10 or 2/3/25 there is just nothing to heal on hc. You can only do good healer logs when your raid actually takes dmg and/or when you go with fewer healers. If you had a lot less heal than another healer it may be that he just outsniped you. | ||
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Cyro
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Redox
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On November 16 2017 03:09 Cyro wrote: www.warcraftlogs.com and I am TapconIf you post logs it's easier to assess | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22085 Posts
Its actually part of the reason why I stopped as a healer after 1 expansion. I didn't care for the fight over meters by other healers and my RL at the time. My job is to keep people alive and so long as I was doing that I was happy with it. | ||
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lestye
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On November 16 2017 03:22 Gorsameth wrote: Yeah I get that. The better the raid is at mechanics the worse you look which is paradoxical. No one was a jerk about it or anything, I just felt like I performed poorly and figured the logs could at least hint at how to suck less.Healer logs are always hard because damage taken is finite. There are a lot of situations where you cannot 'heal more' because there is no more damage or because another healer was 0.1 seconds faster. Its actually part of the reason why I stopped as a healer after 1 expansion. I didn't care for the fight over meters by other healers and my RL at the time. My job is to keep people alive and so long as I was doing that I was happy with it. On November 16 2017 03:26 lestye wrote: Why u canceling my HoTs bro?Try standing in fire so you have more damage to heal, make sure you cancelaura competing healer's hots and shields. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 16 2017 03:22 Gorsameth wrote: Healer logs are always hard because damage taken is finite. There are a lot of situations where you cannot 'heal more' because there is no more damage or because another healer was 0.1 seconds faster. Its actually part of the reason why I stopped as a healer after 1 expansion. I didn't care for the fight over meters by other healers and my RL at the time. My job is to keep people alive and so long as I was doing that I was happy with it. This is the crux of it. Healing throughput simply isn't important unless your guild is explicitly trying to minimize the number of healers in order to maximize DPS. Otherwise throughput-oriented thinking is actively detrimental to your role (i.e. keeping everyone alive), as fighting with other healers doesn't accomplish anything other than wasting mana and CDs. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 16 2017 03:48 Seuss wrote: This is the crux of it. Healing throughput simply isn't important unless your guild is explicitly trying to minimize the number of healers in order to maximize DPS. Otherwise throughput-oriented thinking is actively detrimental to your role (i.e. keeping everyone alive), as fighting with other healers doesn't accomplish anything other than wasting mana and CDs. Pretty much this. If I have a fellow healer that talks about hps a lot I get mad and tell him to stfu. It leads to a stupid competition thinking that is completely detrimental. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 16 2017 04:00 Redox wrote: Pretty much this. If I have a fellow healer that talks about hps a lot I get mad and tell him to stfu. It leads to a stupid competition thinking that is completely detrimental. No common sense raid grp will ever worry about raw hps numbers unless its actually the straight reason you are wiping. Which is rare these days. Assignments and playing your role is all that matters. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
The difference between your gear level and top tier gear is probably >2x HPS potential your healing vs ilvl was good on some fights the ones where it was bad, you were sometimes running 4 healers when the appropriate number was ~2.5; over half of the healing done was overhealing despite healers being idle other than that, cooldown management. Lots of instances of important CD's going unused because you either had nothing to heal or did have stuff to heal but didn't use / coordinate them, whichever it was at the time | ||
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