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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 01 2016 22:52 GMT
#4541
On December 02 2016 05:31 Alventenie wrote:
I find the bracers change a nerf.

10 dodges would be ~50% stagger removal passively. Now its 10 second cooldown towards brews. In general most BrM already can maintain 100% ISB uptime so this 10 second cooldown is for purifying brew only. But its cooldown is higher than 10 seconds, and it only removes 50% stagger per cast.

This is only a buff if you have the belt that heals when you actually purify. Otherwise its a nerf.

It still is nice compared to other legendaries though, so I can't complain that much.

Edit: Actually the good thing about the bracers now that I think more into it. It is good not for ISB/Purify, but rather Black ox Brew and Fortifying Brew. Having a consistent reduction on both of those make them even more appealing (Black ox is already the best in its line, these bracers would make it even better). Taking Fort from its 3-3.5 min cd to possibly a 2-2.5 min cd would be rather amazing.


Well the bracers also make it so in M+ you can stack a 5min ISB in just a few trash packs and only use purifying lol

Bracers + boots just sounds ridiculous as far as how often it makes Fort brew available for dungeons. And fort brew is a Turn into God button these days.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 02 2016 00:21 GMT
#4542
Managed to kill helya hc in a pug finally. My dmg as ret sucked so hard though, even with cavalier theres too much target switching and running around QQ
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-02 00:45:05
December 02 2016 00:44 GMT
#4543
2nd night on Mythic Ilgynoth, After wiping 3 times on < 1% and another couple more times at < 10%. Finally down!

Cenarius is gonna be a bitch. >.>
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-02 09:57:07
December 02 2016 09:10 GMT
#4544
Cena seems pretty easy now since we just overgear him so much (he seems set up for i865-870 with artifact level 25-30, not 885 with 35+)

What was wiping over and over again trying to push p3 with 1 second left on the timer about a month ago is now pushing it with 15 seconds left on the timer even with 1 or 2 people dead

rly short fight with the hard phase ending at ~2:40 as well so if it fails you can just start over
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 02 2016 10:50 GMT
#4545
Yeah, Cenarius is one of those fight where gear makes a big difference.
Especially if you can use the zerg strat.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 02 2016 10:53 GMT
#4546
Why would you not use the zerg strat.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 02 2016 15:10 GMT
#4547
On December 02 2016 07:52 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2016 05:31 Alventenie wrote:
I find the bracers change a nerf.

10 dodges would be ~50% stagger removal passively. Now its 10 second cooldown towards brews. In general most BrM already can maintain 100% ISB uptime so this 10 second cooldown is for purifying brew only. But its cooldown is higher than 10 seconds, and it only removes 50% stagger per cast.

This is only a buff if you have the belt that heals when you actually purify. Otherwise its a nerf.

It still is nice compared to other legendaries though, so I can't complain that much.

Edit: Actually the good thing about the bracers now that I think more into it. It is good not for ISB/Purify, but rather Black ox Brew and Fortifying Brew. Having a consistent reduction on both of those make them even more appealing (Black ox is already the best in its line, these bracers would make it even better). Taking Fort from its 3-3.5 min cd to possibly a 2-2.5 min cd would be rather amazing.


Well the bracers also make it so in M+ you can stack a 5min ISB in just a few trash packs and only use purifying lol

Bracers + boots just sounds ridiculous as far as how often it makes Fort brew available for dungeons. And fort brew is a Turn into God button these days.


This already happens without the bracers though. If you are running Black ox Brew and Blackout Combo for talents, as well as non stop pulling, people are already ending M+ with 3+ minutes on ISB.

The big winner on the bracers is Fort brew, especially if you have your artifact worked out mostly. A portion of our artifact just makes Fort brew a win more button, which I think is crazy. I wouldn't mind having the bracers for tanking.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 02 2016 23:05 GMT
#4548
Blizz has been having some fun with the emissaries on EU, we got a second kirin tor emissary which was also free (log in, log out, log in again and it's done)

Today there was another issue where 2 emissary quests for a bunch of people disappeared when partway through their expected duration. In response they seem to have respawned those quests for everyone which appeared as 2 random new emissary quests if you'd already cleared them
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 02 2016 23:06 GMT
#4549
Yea, and the kirin tor is now flagged as non completed if you didnt turn it in in time but there is no kirin tor wq so you cant finish it. How is legion so fucking buggy.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 03 2016 11:19 GMT
#4550
Since I know there's quite a few Monk players here, I'm reposting this in case you guys can help make it a bit more visible.

Pandanaconda has posted a very thorough thread on the EU forums, that Talby's copied over to the NA forums outlining the issues with Storm, Earth, and Fire, the Serenity change, and the lack of communication between Blizzard and the WW community. I suggest people read it and lend their support so we can try to get some response and maybe some change.

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20752377961
http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17614455267
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-03 13:18:27
December 03 2016 13:17 GMT
#4551
Most classes are having similar issues. At least we have developer Q&A in ~4 days
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
December 03 2016 13:25 GMT
#4552
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 03 2016 13:58 GMT
#4553
On December 03 2016 20:19 Noocta wrote:
Since I know there's quite a few Monk players here, I'm reposting this in case you guys can help make it a bit more visible.

Show nested quote +
Pandanaconda has posted a very thorough thread on the EU forums, that Talby's copied over to the NA forums outlining the issues with Storm, Earth, and Fire, the Serenity change, and the lack of communication between Blizzard and the WW community. I suggest people read it and lend their support so we can try to get some response and maybe some change.

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20752377961
http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17614455267



I only play BrM and MW on my alt monk, but I know many WW that have been trying to get SEF fixed since Legion launch. I hope they do actually fix it properly so its an actual good choice (atm Serenity out performs it in a lot of fights, but on PTR I heard they nerfed Serenity massively)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
December 03 2016 15:53 GMT
#4554
On its own it's not the largest nerf in the world, it's about 5% in single target. However it's at a time when Serenity is our only option, and when WW Monks are in the bottom third of dps. People like Babylonius and Panda have given tons of constructive feedback in a very polite manner to Blizzard yet in return we've had absolutely zero communication about problems that have been around since beta.
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 03 2016 18:32 GMT
#4555
Sadly this is the case for a lot of classes. Rogues have given a lot of feedback for PvP and still have nothing to show for it. Top ranked rogues that have PvP'd for years are leaving the game because we are sub 2 million life and -40% agi in instances PvP. And we don't have any of our control given back to us, where most of our specs are only 1, maybe 2 ways to cc people.

Definitely a tough patch for a lot of people.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 04 2016 09:20 GMT
#4556
unrelated but i constantly had 3-4 fireballs in a row not crit on H Odyn, while having 60% crit

i'm super mad
ffxiv enjoyer
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-04 14:35:19
December 04 2016 14:07 GMT
#4557
if you cast hundreds per fight it's bound to happen

What do you guys think about mythic+ AP rewards? Right now we have a low amount from level 2, but 1.6x more from level 4+ which makes it a great level to run IMO.

Level 7 gives ~1.25x more than level 4, an amount that can be very hard to justify and level 10 gives ~1.2x more than level 7, again pretty small

With a great group in theory you can smash through 10's, get a similar amount of AP per hour as 4's and get more chance at usable loot as well but in practice i'm finding most of my playtime going to lower levels for optimization even on the weeks with affixes biased towards making low levels hard and high levels easier
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
December 04 2016 14:28 GMT
#4558
Its unlikely, but not out of the realm.

40% -> 16% -> 6.4% -> 2.56%.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-04 14:37:06
December 04 2016 14:30 GMT
#4559
On December 04 2016 23:28 Alventenie wrote:
Its unlikely, but not out of the realm.

40% -> 16% -> 6.4% -> 2.56%.


If you cast it 100 times, what's the longest sequence of no crits that you would expect? This is the type of thing that's unlikely at any given moment but happens at some point during every pull on Odyn
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-04 14:51:22
December 04 2016 14:50 GMT
#4560
Longest sequence of no crits would probably be 3 or 4, 5 (1% chance) seems rather unlikely and 6 would be extreme (~.04% chance). But this is just a general comment. You likely won't notice not critting 4 spells in a row, compared to 4 of the same spell in a row.

The way they display numbers at you with how crits are bigger and more vibrant (unless you use an add on) will make it feel like you are critting more things than you might actually be.

On my rogue I notice them more because I gain CP with crits. I sometimes have Mutilate not crit in 2 casts (MH/OH can crit separately so 4 chances @ 44/45% crit), but its very unlikely for me at that crit rate to not crit 4 in a row already.
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