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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 12:08:40
November 30 2016 08:36 GMT
#4501
On November 30 2016 04:11 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 04:00 Redox wrote:
No complaining about login issues here?

People on my guild all can not login, seems like raid will be cancelled.
I have been trying for an hour now.


Not enough raiders here to worry about that I reckon :p. The only inconvenience ive felt so far is that I cant login to the app to run missions. Which I dont really care about anyway.


The one day i went to bed early, servers go down right after lolol :D

On November 30 2016 08:02 GTR wrote:
hotfix nerfed nightmare bolt from xavius in dht now. maybe it will be doable with tyrannical at higher levels.


How much? I considered the "having >2.9m HP on a DPS" to be a considerable nerf already

Ah, 1.25x less damage (so a previously fatal 2.9m hit will be 2.32)

The battle.net support system is pretty ridiculous right now.. cannot get through to live chat for a simple server-side issue without jumping through lots of irrelevant hoops (photo ID, dxdiag/msinfo files what?)

--

I got lucky with legendary #4 - earned 1, 2, 3 with a pretty big gap between them and lots of the drop chance multiplier built up and then the game just drops #4 on me with no build-up time
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 30 2016 14:09 GMT
#4502
I did not even know weekly M+ chest loot can also war/titanforge. Learned that because guy in guild got 895 from +8 chest.
Honestly I think that is silly. Item lvl of this reward is already very high from the start (too high kinda). They could have at least limited RNG in this case.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 14:38:57
November 30 2016 14:33 GMT
#4503
Why do you think it's too high? One 880 per week from level 10 or 885 from level 12 is the same level of gear that you get from EN or TOV at max difficulty and the quantity is fairly limited.

Those also wf/tf/socket; we've gotten an 895 socketed piece of gear from TOV trash already.

The chance for an 870 item (mythic8 weekly chest) to titanforge to 895 is pretty small and also available on every other 870 item
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 30 2016 14:39 GMT
#4504
Because it seems very little effort for getting a guaranteed 880. Also 15 item lvls above the loot you get from the dungeon for the respective chest. I mean if it stayed at those 880 or whatever that would be ok, but titanforging possibility on top seems just too much.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 14:53:48
November 30 2016 14:41 GMT
#4505
Level 8 is i870 in the weekly chest

Level 10+ is actually very hard for people who can't clear anything in mythic EN or heroic TOV

Clearing 10 bosses is ~2.6 items per player per week, that's what you can get from raiding
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 14:59:05
November 30 2016 14:54 GMT
#4506
+10 is not hard since you dont need to do it in time. This week I had a tank on +10 (key owner) that had no idea what the necrotic debuff does. Just face tanked everything, died, DDs finished trash, he got rezzed. Had no idea which mobs to pull in EoA. We were at 80% before last boss. It actually seemed like he never played a M+ before.
And the funny thing is noone cared, all were just super happy to finish this run with several wipes and twice the expected time since all they wanted was the weekly chest.

This kind of stuff is only possible because people are getting boosted with their keys of course.

On November 30 2016 23:41 Cyro wrote:
Clearing 10 bosses is ~2.6 items per player per week, that's what you can get from raiding

To be clear I was not talking about the normal M+ loot, which might even be on the low side, but the weekly chest specifically and even more specifically about its titanforging.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 15:29:18
November 30 2016 15:11 GMT
#4507
25ilvl titanforge will only happen about 1-2 times per player per year from that chest, If you're looking at a whole guild's loot (~100 chest items per month) then it may seem more common than it actually is

I see what you mean with being able to clear one 10 per week with some affix combinations

I think maybe the gear doesn't scale that well with a large chunk of the payoff being relatively easily accessible but putting in 3-5x more time not giving 3-5x the reward after that. It feels maybe a little too strong for normal/heroic level players cheesing through a single L10 on easy affixes but also a little weak vs raid gear for people who can progress on a new difficulty and blow all of their bonus rolls or achieve efficient raid farming and win by sheer volume of items
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 18:06:23
November 30 2016 18:05 GMT
#4508
On November 30 2016 23:54 Redox wrote:
+10 is not hard since you dont need to do it in time. This week I had a tank on +10 (key owner) that had no idea what the necrotic debuff does. Just face tanked everything, died, DDs finished trash, he got rezzed. Had no idea which mobs to pull in EoA. We were at 80% before last boss. It actually seemed like he never played a M+ before.
And the funny thing is noone cared, all were just super happy to finish this run with several wipes and twice the expected time since all they wanted was the weekly chest.

This kind of stuff is only possible because people are getting boosted with their keys of course.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 23:41 Cyro wrote:
Clearing 10 bosses is ~2.6 items per player per week, that's what you can get from raiding

To be clear I was not talking about the normal M+ loot, which might even be on the low side, but the weekly chest specifically and even more specifically about its titanforging.


I dono on the one hand I agree with you because there really are some pretty terrible players doing +9 - 10s who get charity chests and ilevel to go with it.

On the other hand I have gotten one titan forge item from my +10 loot chest and it was something I went ahead and vendored.


I dont see why its a problem with not making the timer and just completing a +10 though. I did that when I was had weaker gear. Now that I have gear I expect to be able to finish them if I can find a grp thats decent.

Its still never going to match people who do mythic raiding in general. Sure there will be outliers, but you have to remember alot of your mythic raiding was also made easier because you went and did those loot chests aswell.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 30 2016 19:04 GMT
#4509
I got 0 upgrades from chests on 3 different chars this week. Last week i got a legendary and one upgrade. Some time before that i got a 895 cape. It's just the same rng as m+ runs but only once a week. I dont see a problem either. There's also no pooling those items unlike running mythics.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
November 30 2016 22:01 GMT
#4510
Did a Mythic +11 last week (NL with sanguine/overflowing/tyrannical) as a 876 blood DK with no heroic ToV kills and only mythic nyth down (no loot from her tho)

Felt pretty good

still wanting to get a legendary for my frost DK - been like 2 months since my last one ?_?
Writermaru pls
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 23:29:44
November 30 2016 23:01 GMT
#4511
still wanting to get a legendary for my frost DK - been like 2 months since my last one ?_?


raid boss kills on normal+ difficulty and emissary caches matter a lot - i have ~250-300 of those for legendary farming

just starting to think about alts, could be nice to jump one to ak10-20 instantly, gear to 870 in 3 days and do nighthold normal/heroic splits
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 30 2016 23:48 GMT
#4512
where are all the arms warriors/windwalkers on na
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
December 01 2016 00:04 GMT
#4513
On December 01 2016 08:01 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
still wanting to get a legendary for my frost DK - been like 2 months since my last one ?_?


raid boss kills on normal+ difficulty and emissary caches matter a lot - i have ~250-300 of those for legendary farming

just starting to think about alts, could be nice to jump one to ak10-20 instantly, gear to 870 in 3 days and do nighthold normal/heroic splits

130 legion boss kills, which I guess is kinda low, and I don't think I've missed more than 2 or 3 caches. It's kinda understandable but still kinda lame, especially considering my 2 legendaries prior were from the weekly chest which made it all fucked up and now its only giving me boots and wrists. <<
Writermaru pls
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 01 2016 00:06 GMT
#4514
On December 01 2016 08:48 FinestHour wrote:
where are all the arms warriors/windwalkers on na


Not many dps warriors around after the start of the expac being so bad for them. And with prot being so strong, lots respecced to tanks.
Windwalkers, well, you have quite a few here somehow, but monks are just not that common.

Talking personnal happenings, just managed to break 883 ilvl and i'm at still at 1/7 MM 0/3 HM.
Of all the gear I have, 90% of it is M+ related, rest is usually trinkets ( Ursoc dps one, dragons healing one, guarm stat stick ) or legendaries lol
You do what you can when you don't have a Mythic level raiding guild sadly.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 01 2016 02:28 GMT
#4515
US 41 mythic guarm kill finally dear god
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
December 01 2016 05:00 GMT
#4516
still waiting for trinket upgrades... FeelsBadMan 850 trinkets another week with no Mythic SPH
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 01 2016 05:32 GMT
#4517
alright whos got the dank mythic helya tips
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 01 2016 07:31 GMT
#4518
Guild gymnastic lessons!
I think the danish terrace vid was very cute. P3 movement so smooth.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-01 10:20:07
December 01 2016 10:08 GMT
#4519
On December 01 2016 09:04 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 08:01 Cyro wrote:
still wanting to get a legendary for my frost DK - been like 2 months since my last one ?_?


raid boss kills on normal+ difficulty and emissary caches matter a lot - i have ~250-300 of those for legendary farming

just starting to think about alts, could be nice to jump one to ak10-20 instantly, gear to 870 in 3 days and do nighthold normal/heroic splits

130 legion boss kills, which I guess is kinda low, and I don't think I've missed more than 2 or 3 caches. It's kinda understandable but still kinda lame, especially considering my 2 legendaries prior were from the weekly chest which made it all fucked up and now its only giving me boots and wrists. <<


2 legendaries is a lot more normal than 3 atm, just more people pushing into 3 among the very active side. The people who farm mythic+ while clearing all raid difficulties every week, the lucky people etc. Every week it'll become notably more common and you'll be a lot more likely to get it :D

I logged in yesterday, did world boss and miraculously got my 4'th legendary but then i went to clear normal 7/7 and heroic 7/7 and i actually saw 5-6 more legendaries drop with only ~18 people in the group. That was extremely unusual (my weekly clears normally see one or two) so it left me wondering if it was a bizarre stroke of luck or if something was wonky with the droprates

-

Hotfix now live: Damage dealt by Hyrja's Shield of Light (Odyn encounter) has been significantly reduced in Normal and Heroic Trial of Valor


Additionally, we've reduced the health of several enemies from Phase 2 of the Helya encounter in Normal and Heroic Trial of Valor.


^people replying w/ comments about relative difficulty in 10 man compared to 20 (same amount of dispells etc)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
December 01 2016 11:54 GMT
#4520
When did that hotfix go through?
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