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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 14 2016 12:31 GMT
#4121
On November 14 2016 19:44 buMf00d wrote:
so I want to start leveling a new class, don't have any preference at all (I have a Demon Hunter at max level but want something different.) What class is the most desired class in the game at this moment?

I would say Ranged dps are the most sought after right now, Boomkin would be very popular while retaining the ability to switch to any role that is neccesary.

Boomkins are a little weaker in M+ but that only matters when you go above 10-11.
WriterXiao8~~
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 14 2016 13:24 GMT
#4122
In my experience everyone wants fire mages, raid and M+. Regarding healers druid seems very popular. Druid might indeed be a good choice because of the flexibility.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-14 16:08:42
November 14 2016 16:04 GMT
#4123
Boomkin would be very popular


I'd say the opposite, one of the worst ranged specs and popular for reason of style (being the only ranged DPS in the most popular class etc) rather than performing well

and they're more weak for 2-3 chest carrying than they are for high level passes / single chest (where ST damage, multidotting and utility stands out more over raw burst AOE damage)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 14 2016 17:24 GMT
#4124
On November 14 2016 18:49 Stancel wrote:
lovely sephuz that just dropped for my fire mage in my first raid with the guild

at least it has crit haha...?


i thought it cudnt get any worse till I got Magnum opus.

To be fair though, for mythic+ runs its great on trash, but thats about it.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
November 14 2016 17:30 GMT
#4125
Koralon's Burning Touch is the worst imo, because it is exclusively for fire mages and it doesn't provide a significant damage bonus while changing the playstyle in an annoying way.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-14 17:34:42
November 14 2016 17:34 GMT
#4126
On November 15 2016 02:30 nimbim wrote:
Koralon's Burning Touch is the worst imo, because it is exclusively for fire mages and it doesn't provide a significant damage bonus while changing the playstyle in an annoying way.


yea but thats because scorch is shit.. if it mimicked the way fireball interacts with talents it would be pretty nuts. Thats something people will probably whine into the game. but theres no way into complainng your way into a fix for the other 2.

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-14 18:08:52
November 14 2016 18:02 GMT
#4127
On November 15 2016 02:30 nimbim wrote:
Koralon's Burning Touch is the worst imo, because it is exclusively for fire mages and it doesn't provide a significant damage bonus while changing the playstyle in an annoying way.


At the very least you can treat it like a statstick (it's a 910 crit item) that buffs you when you might want to use scorch anyway

IDK why scorch sucks so much that it's supposedly awful even with a 4.5x buff, though. I used to cast it quite often in TBC through Cata
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-14 18:52:23
November 14 2016 18:13 GMT
#4128
On November 15 2016 03:02 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 02:30 nimbim wrote:
Koralon's Burning Touch is the worst imo, because it is exclusively for fire mages and it doesn't provide a significant damage bonus while changing the playstyle in an annoying way.


At the very least you can treat it like a statstick (it's a 910 crit item) that buffs you when you might want to use scorch anyway

IDK why scorch sucks so much that it's supposedly awful even with a 4.5x buff, though. I used to cast it quite often in TBC through Cata


i dono, it was never good. Unless you were doing it to keep the stacks up that was about the only value it had in the rotation. And ofcourse damage dumps when having to move. Even then in our raids we used to roll and have a scorch bitch on farm stuff. :p

The reason it sucks now is because it doesnt interact with alot of the artifact traits and doesnt proc them but consumes them once it lands. The cast time is marginally less than fireball and the damage is so shit even the bonus is pretty useless.

The part about the stat stick is fine, but when other legendaries are giving strong ups from the bonuses then its kinda like, fuck me howd i get stuck with this.

Its good for forcing hot streak procs with combustion up.. but really if you are playing it right you should have your instant cast procs times anyway, thats not always the case ofcourse because... . boss fights but thats the only reasonable case to use it.

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-15 07:43:46
November 14 2016 18:52 GMT
#4129
Some more badly optimized spell effects/environments in raids, cenarius dragon breath reduces my FPS by 50-80% depending on the amount of dragons. My particle density is set to low/fair, not ultra for exactly this reason and it still does it - whai you do this blizz

They seem to be making the game harder and harder to run at a rate that is far outpacing hardware development.. a 30% faster CPU means that they feel fine about putting a spell effect that is 150% harder to run but doesn't actually look a lot better than the old one. Even if it did look way better, i'd like an option in the menu for effects that don't kill performance on flagship hardware
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 14 2016 19:19 GMT
#4130
On November 15 2016 01:04 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
Boomkin would be very popular


I'd say the opposite, one of the worst ranged specs and popular for reason of style (being the only ranged DPS in the most popular class etc) rather than performing well

and they're more weak for 2-3 chest carrying than they are for high level passes / single chest (where ST damage, multidotting and utility stands out more over raw burst AOE damage)

Its because of the flexibility, as a Mage you can only DPS pretty much, granted you are very wanted in general but Boomkin offers him flexibility if he gets bored of doing damage.

People also like Boomkins in raids because of Innervate and their ranged dps is fine.
WriterXiao8~~
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-14 19:56:29
November 14 2016 19:37 GMT
#4131
Still second last (to ele shaman)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
November 14 2016 21:00 GMT
#4132
Boomkin is popular in the sense that finding any ranged dps at all is hard for a lot of guilds trying to put a roster together. It's pretty darn mediocre though all other things considered. I can see the argument to leveling a druid, just because the class can play anything and you only need to work on one character for artifact knowledge, but from a pure enjoyment perspective, it will probably be more fulfilling to play a class that really excels at its role.

The game is getting easier on alts, and soon artifact levels will be instant up to 10. Especially if he's rolling a new toon completely, a mage is probably the best choice if he wants to play the highest demand class that excels at what it does. I think Priest can also be a good option, but I have no idea how blizzard is going to try to screw with shadow in the coming patches.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 14 2016 23:12 GMT
#4133
outside of the blood vendor where do you guys get your resources for seals/hall upgrades etc

my tier 4 upgrade completes in <2days and i'm currently on 828 resources, and it's reset day tomorrow
ffxiv enjoyer
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 14 2016 23:30 GMT
#4134
On November 15 2016 08:12 Stancel wrote:
outside of the blood vendor where do you guys get your resources for seals/hall upgrades etc

my tier 4 upgrade completes in <2days and i'm currently on 828 resources, and it's reset day tomorrow

World quests. There is also some follower item that gives you 50 resources for every world quest you do, it adds up pretty quickly.
Off-season = best season
chocorush
Profile Joined June 2009
696 Posts
November 14 2016 23:47 GMT
#4135
You can get 150 per world quest if you have the elixir of plenty and curio of abundant happiness follower items.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24784 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-14 23:48:42
November 14 2016 23:47 GMT
#4136
There is a follower item that gives 100. I use it.

Edit - beat me to it.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-15 00:37:06
November 15 2016 00:35 GMT
#4137
On November 15 2016 08:12 Stancel wrote:
outside of the blood vendor where do you guys get your resources for seals/hall upgrades etc

my tier 4 upgrade completes in <2days and i'm currently on 828 resources, and it's reset day tomorrow


Never got in that situation cause i saved resources and did the big resource world quests most days, that left me with 17k when it was time to start that research even though i upgraded a few bits of gear

You can mass farm it via bloods like you said, that may be the easiest way with the blood droprates and conversion rate. I was surprised to see them instantly trivialize resources in one patch so early in the expansion
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 15 2016 00:51 GMT
#4138
im just doing all the wqs for resources whenever i need them. using blood for resources is kind o a waste imho, they are so much gold on my realm.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51661 Posts
November 15 2016 03:18 GMT
#4139
On November 15 2016 03:52 Cyro wrote:
Some more badly optimized spell effects/environments in raids, cenarius dragon breath reduces my FPS by 50-80% depending on the amount of dragons. My particle density is set to low/fair, not ultra for exactly this reason and it still does it - whai you do this blizz

They seem to be making the game harder and harder to run at a rate that is far outpacing hardware development - A 30% faster CPU means that they feel fine about putting a spell effect that is 150% harder to run but doesn't actually look a lot better than the old one. Even if it did look way better, i'd like an option in the menu for effects that don't kill performance on flagship hardware


in cos theres a group of trash at the start and is the only time i've had serious fps issues.
Commentator
buMf00d
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands194 Posts
November 15 2016 08:35 GMT
#4140
Thanks for the pointers guys. Going to be leveling a mage.
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