Noocta#2669
I've done +10 as both dps and tank, no real issue doing them.
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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
Noocta
France12578 Posts
Noocta#2669 I've done +10 as both dps and tank, no real issue doing them. | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20294 Posts
We’d like to take a moment to dispel some rumors and give some insight into certain “hidden” Artifact Appearances, as well as some general notes on how this system (and similar systems) has worked out so far in Legion. For starters, we’ve seen some rumblings around the community that the appearance for Arms Warriors was “hotfixed in.” This is not the case. The quest for that particular appearance has a daily chance to be offered in the Warrior Order Hall, and when it's active, it will be active throughout an entire region for that day. Our initial setting for that chance ended up being too conservative (and was increased in Patch 7.1), but the chance has been there every day since the expansion launched. Many of you have also been asking about the hidden appearance for Frost Death Knights. We’ve been trying to avoid giving out too much in the way of spoilers for these, but as it’s now the last one to be discovered, we figured we might as well give you guys a hint. This appearance is tied to a particular world boss, which hasn’t spawned yet. Once that boss is available, we expect the appearance to be found pretty quickly. We’ve learned a lot of important lessons about hidden content and these sorts of varied and discoverable unlocks over the course of Legion development. Some of our efforts were clearly far more successful than others. We’re going to take these lessons to heart and apply them going forward. Additionally, we’re working on a few tweaks to how the hidden artifact appearances are acquired, which will be released in a future patch, with the goal of reducing the frustration that can come from trying to chase down some of the more elusive ones. So arms one was technically ingame the whole time but there was also nothing that players could have done that was related to it for a couple of months. Should it really have been called available / obtainable when those people asked? | ||
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Azuzu
United States340 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20294 Posts
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United States1258 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
also might've contracted cancer too but who's counting haha... in other unrelated, slightly more cancerous news it upgraded to a +5 BRH keystone what the FUCK | ||
Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
Did a bit of kara last night, as someone who didn't raid it in tbc it was a lot of fun. But damn some stuff hits hard, those small spiders for example. In the pugs I have done this with, I've made sure to chat with each member a little before inviting them. A lot of people don't reply to stuff like "how was your day" or "what did you have for dinner", rather leaving the lfg signup. Have had good results. | ||
RvB
Netherlands6218 Posts
On November 02 2016 08:46 Cyro wrote: Comment from Lore: Show nested quote + We’d like to take a moment to dispel some rumors and give some insight into certain “hidden” Artifact Appearances, as well as some general notes on how this system (and similar systems) has worked out so far in Legion. For starters, we’ve seen some rumblings around the community that the appearance for Arms Warriors was “hotfixed in.” This is not the case. The quest for that particular appearance has a daily chance to be offered in the Warrior Order Hall, and when it's active, it will be active throughout an entire region for that day. Our initial setting for that chance ended up being too conservative (and was increased in Patch 7.1), but the chance has been there every day since the expansion launched. Many of you have also been asking about the hidden appearance for Frost Death Knights. We’ve been trying to avoid giving out too much in the way of spoilers for these, but as it’s now the last one to be discovered, we figured we might as well give you guys a hint. This appearance is tied to a particular world boss, which hasn’t spawned yet. Once that boss is available, we expect the appearance to be found pretty quickly. We’ve learned a lot of important lessons about hidden content and these sorts of varied and discoverable unlocks over the course of Legion development. Some of our efforts were clearly far more successful than others. We’re going to take these lessons to heart and apply them going forward. Additionally, we’re working on a few tweaks to how the hidden artifact appearances are acquired, which will be released in a future patch, with the goal of reducing the frustration that can come from trying to chase down some of the more elusive ones. So arms one was technically ingame the whole time but there was also nothing that players could have done that was related to it for a couple of months. Should it really have been called available / obtainable when those people asked? People have been putting a lot of time in this with all kinds of crazy theories and then it's just linked to a world boss which hasn't appeared yet lol. What a joke. | ||
Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On November 02 2016 16:51 Emnjay808 wrote: Necrotic Teeming. Ill happily pass on all mythic+ this week. teeming necrotic tyrannical might be the worst affix combo there is. | ||
Duvon
Sweden2360 Posts
On November 02 2016 16:34 RvB wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2016 08:46 Cyro wrote: Comment from Lore: We’d like to take a moment to dispel some rumors and give some insight into certain “hidden” Artifact Appearances, as well as some general notes on how this system (and similar systems) has worked out so far in Legion. For starters, we’ve seen some rumblings around the community that the appearance for Arms Warriors was “hotfixed in.” This is not the case. The quest for that particular appearance has a daily chance to be offered in the Warrior Order Hall, and when it's active, it will be active throughout an entire region for that day. Our initial setting for that chance ended up being too conservative (and was increased in Patch 7.1), but the chance has been there every day since the expansion launched. Many of you have also been asking about the hidden appearance for Frost Death Knights. We’ve been trying to avoid giving out too much in the way of spoilers for these, but as it’s now the last one to be discovered, we figured we might as well give you guys a hint. This appearance is tied to a particular world boss, which hasn’t spawned yet. Once that boss is available, we expect the appearance to be found pretty quickly. We’ve learned a lot of important lessons about hidden content and these sorts of varied and discoverable unlocks over the course of Legion development. Some of our efforts were clearly far more successful than others. We’re going to take these lessons to heart and apply them going forward. Additionally, we’re working on a few tweaks to how the hidden artifact appearances are acquired, which will be released in a future patch, with the goal of reducing the frustration that can come from trying to chase down some of the more elusive ones. So arms one was technically ingame the whole time but there was also nothing that players could have done that was related to it for a couple of months. Should it really have been called available / obtainable when those people asked? People have been putting a lot of time in this with all kinds of crazy theories and then it's just linked to a world boss which hasn't appeared yet lol. What a joke. Well at leasy devs know what is expected of them. Right? Right... | ||
Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:29 Azuzu wrote: A nice, conservative chance of 0%. Sort of like my legendary drop chance But don't worry, it's in the game so you can totally get it. Don't mind the fact that the quest never spawned until you upped the chance of it spawning (0% chance to spawn). And Frost DKs, it's in the game guys! You just also have a 0% chance because the boss hasnt even been spawned ever. Still can't believe Blizzard is complacent telling people its in the game when they have a 0% chance of getting it, but then have other hidden artifacts that are just bought from vendors. The varying amount of effort put into this is kinda disheartening at times. | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
With the hidden artifact appearances, I felt like they did the best they could with compromising between all the potential complaints players would have and trying to instill a sense of mystery and discovery in the game and create the opportunity to be surprised. Hide content but not too hidden. Vary the content so that you're not following a predictable formula but do so for a cosmetic reward so the stakes aren't too high. The players who spent a ton of time doing research for their hidden appearance, hoping that theirs was one that was a mystery to be solved rather than something more mundane like a random quest chance or world boss drop, knew that they might be wasting their time. They chose to do it anyway and hopefully had fun doing it, even though they weren't right in the end, because that's the kind of thing they like doing. It is absolutely necessary that some people have their time wasted and get treated unfairly in certain ways if the game is going to have this aspect to it at all. Personally I think it's worth it and this generation of players needs to be trained to deal with the downsides. I just don't see how it's possible to get rid of all the downsides and I think this kind of content should become regular. I'm sure they can improve it, and they did say they learned lessons, so hopefully they're able to iterate on it and give us a better version next time. On November 02 2016 21:01 Alventenie wrote:The varying amount of effort put into this is kinda disheartening at times. It's all just bonus content though. There's no standard saying they need to make these skins, one for each spec in the game, and have a unique but equally engaging way to acquire each one. That's such a huge project on top of all the other things they had to do for this expansion, which they did a good job of. If they hadn't done this content at all then I'm pretty sure we'd still be happy with how much content Legion delivered, but they did this extra content and avoided following a formula on purpose, and people take the best ones as the standard and say that the variance below those were a disappointing lack of effort? | ||
Alventenie
United States2147 Posts
BM hunters you buy from a vendor. There is no effort there. I know they said it was because 'they dont want people to feel locked into a gun rather than a bow'. But what about every other spec thats locked to a specific weapon? My rogue is Daggers/Swords, Brm is staff/polearm. None of my hidden appearences are bought from a vendor. Frost Dks is a chance to drop off a world boss. So you have a 1/11 chance of it spawning each week, then 1 try to have it drop. That discrepancy is huge. I dont mind many of them and think its fine. Daily chances/boss kill (although lol outlaw rogue, some people have confirmed over 300+ kills and never seen their bindings) I think is a more fair way to do it. You put in effort and have a chance to get it, but you aren't guaranteed it. I farmed for my Assa one and got it, haven't lucked out on Sub or Outlaw yet. But to say one spec only gets a chance at their hidden artifact once every 2 months vs classes that have chances daily (or more than once a day) seems rather extreme. The biggest issue people had from Blizzard about it is also they didn't say anything. Everything was said to be 'It's there, you just haven't looked hard enough'. Every answer they gave was that it is in the game right now able to be found. Which for Frost DKs, is a lie. It's like saying the loot off Gul'dan is in the game. Sure, its there, but you have a 0% chance of getting it at all because the thing you need for it has not shown up on the live servers yet, ever. | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
The researchers knew that things that weren't possible to have happened yet, but were in the game, could be involved. The ones that wanted to take the chance of wasting their time to be the first one to figure it out carried on. Anyone who wasn't as into that aspect of the game was fine ignoring it. | ||
Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On a sidenote, i just got my very own prydaz on my tank pally that i cant even equip for another 18 days. | ||
merz
Sweden2760 Posts
Currently 863-864 ilvl DH Vengeance tank and been doing 8+ fairly smoothly when rest of the group is 865+. If anyone needs a squishy key button mashing tank for their M+ 6-8 on EU Alliance im up for it whenever I'm online, merz#21257 for add! ![]() | ||
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