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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

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Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-25 19:29:03
October 25 2016 19:22 GMT
#3701
Yeah, they didn't touch the cleave build, but they buffed single target build.


They got some nice stuff like +50% on howling blast so they should be a lot better all around AFAIK

dmg, combat res, aoe stun and an interrupt is really nice. I say interrupt because a few of the worst specs don't actually have an interrupt with a reasonable CD
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 25 2016 19:30 GMT
#3702
On October 26 2016 04:22 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
Yeah, they didn't touch the cleave build, but they buffed single target build.


They got some nice stuff like +50% on howling blast so they should be a lot better all around AFAIK

Well, cleave build (frostscythe) uses howling blast only to keep up frost fever. The howling blast buff is more about making non-frostscythe build, which uses obliterate, which procs 300% dmg howling blasts, stronger. The howling blast buff is part of what makes going single target build not so bad for cleave either.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-25 20:34:35
October 25 2016 20:34 GMT
#3703
Back in my day you bound everything to howling blast and ran through the instance while playing the keyboard like a guitar
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 25 2016 21:36 GMT
#3704
On October 26 2016 05:34 Cyro wrote:
Back in my day you bound everything to howling blast and ran through the instance while playing the keyboard like a guitar


You could even do the same thing in arenas and get Gladiator somehow. Season 5 was wild
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-26 02:40:05
October 26 2016 02:39 GMT
#3705
Blizz scheduled maintainence.. server down for "4 hours" and i come back an hour later to the patch being live LOL

DH class hall got a visual update!
[image loading]

now we have planets and shit everywhere
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
October 26 2016 05:37 GMT
#3706
wow that is beautiful, didn't notice any changes to monks
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
October 26 2016 06:19 GMT
#3707
If the rotation list I found is correct, EU will have raging+volcanic+tyrannical this week, which sounds like one of the easiest to finally do +10 in time. Just get a strong melee comp with aoe stuns and a mobile healer.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-26 06:30:17
October 26 2016 06:25 GMT
#3708
That sounds lovely after teeming/necrotic/tyrannical.

I've generally had an easier time w/ tyrannical rather than fortified but especially with necrotic+tyrannical there are some brick wall bosses that will singlehandedly ruin your life. Some of them you just walk through and oneshot, clear the trash inbetween.. others you'll still be there an hour later wondering if the boss will actually die ever with that specific player setup. It always has done in my experience, but some have been closer to impossible than others

General +7, +8, +9 runs all week were a nightmare w/ teeming necrotic as well; raging and volcanic can both be fairly well managed to the point where they don't impact clear times much
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4259 Posts
October 26 2016 06:31 GMT
#3709
I wish they'd update the DK hall. I'm not sure if its like the worst compared to every other class hall, but it does seem like they didnt add much from wrath to legion.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 26 2016 07:02 GMT
#3710
Necrotic+Tyrannical is a bitch because some bosses its really hard to reset stacks and its virtually impossible to kill the boss before your tank gets very high stacks which means you need to play around with a secondary taunt and shit.
WriterXiao8~~
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
October 26 2016 07:43 GMT
#3711
A few fights with add spawns can screw with that a lot as well (etc first boss neltharions, spider boss arcway)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-26 10:55:31
October 26 2016 10:54 GMT
#3712
Got wrists in the weekly chest, the one slot that i have a legendary in, so no upgrade, yay.
On October 26 2016 16:43 Cyro wrote:
A few fights with add spawns can screw with that a lot as well (etc first boss neltharions, spider boss arcway)


I have no clue how you do court of stars second boss with necrotic.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
October 26 2016 11:50 GMT
#3713
I dont think that fight changes much with the second affix. Once you reach a certain point in M+ the imps will just start one shotting people if you let them cast. Just have to stun/silence and burst them down every time they spawn.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
October 26 2016 12:28 GMT
#3714
if you silence them they still attack the tank and after the first wave i had 20+ stacks of necrotic that you cant reset.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 26 2016 15:17 GMT
#3715
I feel like by this point, people were starting to hate on WoD. What do people think of Legion? I feel like this is a legitimately better expansion, but I tend to be less cynical than others. Curious what you guys think.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 26 2016 15:51 GMT
#3716
Heard reports of (excessive) legendary dropping in raids, anyone had experience with this so far?
WriterXiao8~~
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 26 2016 16:00 GMT
#3717
On October 27 2016 00:17 Mohdoo wrote:
I feel like by this point, people were starting to hate on WoD. What do people think of Legion? I feel like this is a legitimately better expansion, but I tend to be less cynical than others. Curious what you guys think.


Legion is good. It has significant flaws, but they aren't crippling like WoD's were.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22664 Posts
October 26 2016 16:05 GMT
#3718
On October 27 2016 00:51 Kipsate wrote:
Heard reports of (excessive) legendary dropping in raids, anyone had experience with this so far?

They could have changed the bad luck protection but for now I think Onyxia deepbreaths more.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-26 16:25:16
October 26 2016 16:13 GMT
#3719
Just got a generic 845 int/versatility trinket from world quest and realized it is better than supposed BIS trinkets that web sites (Icy Veins etc) tell me I should use.

845 int/vers trinket is straight up 5.85% more heal.

870 Vial of Nightmare Fog is 2.87 % crit (2% more heal at 30% crit) and the proc is 3.5% of my heal according to my logs, so 5.5% overall.

Now comparison to the 845 trinket I used before, Naglfar Fare. It is 2.6% crit (1.8% heal) and proc is 2.5 % according to logs, so 4.3%.

I dont do much math in WoW usually and just rely on BIS lists on sites or what others write on forums etc. But this one seems pretty obvious.

Part of the problem is something I already talked about earlier - items gain almost 3 times as much int per lvl as they do crit etc. So in the future with even more item lvl trinkets that do not have int/agi should be completely useless. Or am I wrong?


Basically this means the generic pure stat trinkets from world quests are way better than all the trinkets I can get from drops in raid/dungeon. At least if they are somewhat close in item lvl. Which is rather sad.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 06:52:37
October 26 2016 16:20 GMT
#3720
On October 26 2016 19:54 Warri wrote:
Got wrists in the weekly chest, the one slot that i have a legendary in, so no upgrade, yay.
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 16:43 Cyro wrote:
A few fights with add spawns can screw with that a lot as well (etc first boss neltharions, spider boss arcway)


I have no clue how you do court of stars second boss with necrotic.


The same way we always do it. Everybody stacks on the exact same spots, we sidestep the fire as imps spawn in and then instantly blow them all up with AOE as they're all clipped into eachother on the same spot. The second imp wave we AOE stun and kill before they really do anything as they need the 5 second stun to wear off plus several seconds to cast. Third wave pretty similar, there's no stun DR since these are now entirely different sets of adds. I've never done it tyrannical but it's actually one of the easiest bosses in M+ if you have this capability in my experience, she's a bit of a one-trick pony that is hard counterable without an extremely specific group comp.

The reason that first boss in nelth and the spider boss in arcway were screwing with us is just because they throw singular adds at you more frequently and in harder to control positions; if one of them hits the person with necrotic at the wrong time that can be very, very bad. We didn't have the same control problems in COS so there was never any crap with the resto druid tanking the boss for 10+ seconds at a time to try to drop stacks on tank

----

I "finally" got my second legendary (after prydaz) with ~300 mythic dungeons, 80 raid boss kills on normal-mythic and 60-ish emissary quests (1 per day +2 at launch, +3 on patch 7.1 reset since i caught it after patch but before the daily reset). It's Raddon's Cascading Eyes, the eye beam head.

It does nothing for Patchwerk but for fights with cleave it seems pretty useful, it'll help in mythic10 and it's hilariously good at times in mythic2 - if you pull 30 guys then you can eye beam, eye beam, eye beam and sustain 5 million DPS :D

I've yet to try the 1.5x length duration on eye beam talent, that should also make it much more powerful but the competing talent on the row, fel mastery, is very very good to the point where i'l probably only use the eye beam talent for the mythic+ runs that we can happily mass-pull on.

Not the best but actually pretty far up there for M+ farming, definitely a lot more useful than Prydaz with current balance.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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