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On October 18 2016 06:32 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 06:12 Soularion wrote: Raiding Heroic Il'gynoth later tonight. Kinda scared. Our dps is pretty fucking questionable.
Downed Ursoc though :D Well you need less DPS for Ilgy than for Ursoc. But of course Ilgy has the added difficulty that you need to attack the right target. :D Blood DKs kinda get fucked by the nightmarish tentacles or whatever the fuck does the flail
and our off-tank is squishy af so its not going to be a good night
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United Kingdom20285 Posts
Hitting 1 mill artifact power atm! Without doing the hard math i guess a bunch of people will be approaching ~6.85m (the flat +5% trait after you complete artifact) throughout november
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Thank the lord I am satisfied with my alts and not an altholic like I used to be.
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On October 18 2016 06:43 daemir wrote: Volcanic works like this: Any mob in active combat has basicly an aura of 12-15 yards (not sure exact number) within no volcano will spawn. Any player outside of ANY of those auras from all active mobs is a valid target.
Thus, if you can stack everyone in basicly melee range of all of the mobs currently in combat, you'll spawn no volcanoes.
What I am wondering is, if there are more targets does it spawn less often per player? because I felt that I had more to dodge when I was the only one they would spawn on.
Btw I usually preferred to just stand on range and dodge than stand in melee. Since because of sanguine I actually had to move more when being in melee than do this one short dodge now and then. Then again, it might only be my instinctual dislike of playing melee.
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On October 18 2016 08:17 Kipsate wrote: Thank the lord I am satisfied with my alts and not an altholic like I used to be.
I'm up to 6 110s, all with the GarrisonOrder Hall Campaign complete. I'll probably have another 2 at 110 by 7.1 sans campaign.
Honestly it's not that bad of an expansion for alts unless you've dedicated yourself to the AP arms race. The only real problem with alts is waiting for AK to catch up, otherwise they can be a big boon (extra Felwort and Herb WQs, gold from Order Hall missions). I hit 25 traits a few weeks ago with the next 9 all being utility and shrugged, it just wasn't worth my time to keep running that treadmill when I could run it later to greater effect.
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I am likewise. I only have 1 main alt (my monk), but I am just content to kind of do the good AP ones (kill x target thats hard and such) and go from there.
I even waited for 2-3 more AK to finish Suramar on my Rogue to get that extra few hundred % of AP. (I got 20k from the final exalted quest alone).
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United Kingdom20285 Posts
For real tho, what happened to order hall missions not being like garrison? It's pretty much exactly the same for me - log in and click a table in the morning and night, send some followers to grab some stuff with no actual player interaction(??)
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90% of my class hall missions are worthless to me anyhow lol, I definitely hope they add something to it.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Did Blizzard ever claim that order hall missions are going to be much different from Garrison missions?
I don't think its a big deal, I quit WOD early but the rewards are minimal so its not a big deal if you miss them, there are fewer of them, they are longer and you can use the phone app to make it easier. Just feels like a bonus is all instead of a mustdo chore.
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United Kingdom20285 Posts
Did Blizzard ever claim that order hall missions are going to be much different from Garrison missions?
A bunch of times 'cause so many people hated garrison missions.
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Yeah the only thing that is really good from new garrison is that raid quest once per week with the extra roll you can get.
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On October 19 2016 00:13 Cyro wrote: For real tho, what happened to order hall missions not being like garrison? It's pretty much exactly the same for me - log in and click a table in the morning and night, send some followers to grab some stuff with no actual player interaction(??)
Missions are somewhat similar, though you're no longer rewarded for logging in more than twice a day and spamming every mission possible. The overall Order Hall experience is markedly different.
It boils down to a plethora of small changes Blizzard made to ensure that Orders Halls wouldn't serve as the expansions hub and isolate players again. Specifically:
- Giving Dalaran the hearthstone, rather than giving it to the Order Hall.
- Not having mailboxes, banks, or other similar conveniences in the Order Hall.
- Allowing you to see, and even interact with, other players within the Order Hall.
- Not allowing Order Halls to be self-sufficient (via caches or resource missions).
- Most Order Halls are actually slightly inconvenient to reach.
- Dalaran is an actual hub, as opposed whatever the hell Ashran was.
For the most part I think they did a good job. It still isn't perfect, but it's way better than Garrisons were.
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United Kingdom20285 Posts
Quoting the MMO champion notes from announcement stream
Your champions won't do things instead of you, but instead help you to accomplish things.
They may go on a scouting mission and discover an area for you to investigate. - this part still exists
You may send them to a zone, which gives you bonuses when you are completing objectives there.
You will work alongside them and with them rather than sending them out on missions to compete with you on earning rewards.
I think it's way better too but they did a complete 180 on the missions. I don't even use the bodyguard feature at all because i need the bodyguards that i have for a bunch of missions and he can't be bodyguard while running them nor can be automatically just show up when he's not busy, i'd have to manually put him on and off several times a day.
It seems to have turned into exactly what they were "trying" to avoid and what all of the complaints in WOD were about, it's just not a huge gamebreaking problem because the rewards are more benign than an economy-crushing amount of gold. Woop, you have a bunch more artifact power on your fourth character - nobody really cares and it doesn't ruin the game for everybody else.
I think that it's still a net negative for the game in its current state; this was the 2.0 "try again" version that ultimately failed, IMO.
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Ah I see, mb theyl work on that later during the expansion,(I hope the complete mission>get quest for dungeon/raid is not what they mean by all that or the pathetic 25 OR/gold you get for completing a WQ with them).
Regardless missions are a lot better than in WoD for sure.
the fucking 5 companion limit so I can't get 2/2/2 for each spec infiruates me though.
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Outside of the dungeon and raid cache quests, yeah that's all out the window. I guess the scouting map might be the remnants of some of that.
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Its been 3 weeks since I started and I think I started doing Order Hall stuff from my phone pretty much after day 4. I really dont feel like doing that shit when I have limited time to play. Works out just fine.
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On October 19 2016 00:53 Rebs wrote: Its been 3 weeks since I started and I think I started doing Order Hall stuff from my phone pretty much after day 4. I really dont feel like doing that shit when I have limited time to play. Works out just fine.
Now imagine that you either don't have a smartphone or don't want to use one for playing an MMO
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Some of the Order Halls are so inconveniently designed I can't imagine bothering with them outside of the phone app. I don't know why only some of them have recruiters and equipment conveniently near the mission doodad.
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Who plays WoW that doesn't have a smartphone and can't spend 3min a day on it though? Not to mention that if you don't then you lose out on very little, at worst 3k AP or so.
On October 19 2016 00:57 Seuss wrote: Some of the Order Halls are so inconveniently designed I can't imagine bothering with them outside of the phone app. I don't know why only some of them have recruiters and equipment conveniently near the mission doodad.
The Druid Order hall is beautiful but why the fuck is my Artifact Upgrade place so far away from the rest, the Hunter 1 is ugly but functional and the priest one looks nice and is functional(but a bit boring).
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Not to mention that if you don't then you lose out on very little, at worst 3k AP or so.
There are ~daily ~5k AP missions plus some other important stuff like the dungeon and raid quests
Now imagine that you either don't have a smartphone or don't want to use one for playing an MMO
I fall into this category
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