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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 17 2016 14:16 GMT
#3521
On October 17 2016 22:59 DickMcFanny wrote:
Perhaps a stupid question:

I've never been around during the Hallow's End event, but I really want to have that mount.

Can I just farm the boss ad infinitum or can the mount only drop from the pumpkins you get once per day?


I think its from the lootbag only now.

The first year of the event it was kinda easy to get cuz we just spam farmed it till pretty much everyone got it. Not sure when it got changed, I stopped doing it after the first year since I had everything.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 14:21:55
October 17 2016 14:20 GMT
#3522
On October 17 2016 23:16 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 22:36 Warri wrote:
Join random votw 8 group, everyone high ilvl, good composition. Everyone readies up, guy puts keystone in. Countdown...dk writes ffs and logs out. Key ruined. Thank god it wasnt mine.

Dude I'm sorry I'm never around when you ask, I swear things keep coming up. I'm definitely free on Tuesday night though (maybe kip will join us?) for a +10.

I did a nelth 10 last night with guildies, those fucking stone throwers and scorpions are insane, we missed the timer by about a minute or two.

need a time because you told me that you were going to do stuff sunday/saturday but I cant be randomy online all the time
WriterXiao8~~
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 15:42:08
October 17 2016 15:39 GMT
#3523
On October 17 2016 23:15 Velr wrote:
Anyone playing disc an can point me to some addons? My healing UI is atm non existant cause i mainly play shadow.


I can only give my most sincered recommendation to getting Grid and configuring it to show your essentials. It has a plugin for legion raid debuffs which is insanely helpful, but you may have to configure some of the debuffs to change their priority order (like dragons aura debuffs, it's not information I need, but I do need to know who has the disease aoe tick and there's only room for 1 center icon).

Then you'll want to have all of your healing type spells as mouseover macros (or use an addon that accomplishes same, but I personally don't see the point when m.over macros work just fine).


Last, but one of the most critical things for a disc is some form of a bossmod, be it bigwigs, dbm or exorsus, something to give you a timer bar of when exactly is boss ability X Y and Z happening, because you are in most cases start countering them 5-7 seconds before they happen. This is a must if you want to perform well as a disc, if you start radiancing after the raid was aoe bursted down to 10%, it's already far too late. The ideal scenario for a disc priest is that you'll have everyone in the raid with atonement buff just before the raid damage happens, then you light's wrath, penance the boss/add and bring everyone back to full health 0.25 seconds after the dmg happened.



to Firebolt, you know you can outrange all of the abilities of the stone throwers and scorpions? Your ranged dps + healer doesn't need to take a single point of damage from either, making healing so much easier as you only need to worry about the tank and melee dps. This is the expansion of outranging, if there's a mob ability that's painful, first check if you can outrange it, it works on so many things in mythic + and even in raids.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
October 17 2016 16:00 GMT
#3524
We did it with monk and demon hunter so a lot of melee.
Moderator
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 17 2016 16:04 GMT
#3525
That still drops the targets for the triple bolt from scorpions from 3 to 2 and both are in healcleave range. Just have your tank turn the scorp face towards you so tank is closer to you than the mob and outrange it then.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 16:29:33
October 17 2016 16:27 GMT
#3526
On October 17 2016 23:16 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 22:36 Warri wrote:
Join random votw 8 group, everyone high ilvl, good composition. Everyone readies up, guy puts keystone in. Countdown...dk writes ffs and logs out. Key ruined. Thank god it wasnt mine.

Dude I'm sorry I'm never around when you ask, I swear things keep coming up. I'm definitely free on Tuesday night though (maybe kip will join us?) for a +10.

I did a nelth 10 last night with guildies, those fucking stone throwers and scorpions are insane, we missed the timer by about a minute or two.

Already had to pull 500k hps at scorpions on lvl 7, dont want to know what its like on 10. Although some people also stood in the fire zones. :D
Also did not know about the outranging thing.

I am genuinely surprised people are having so much trouble staying out of those anyway. As a WoW player it should be hardwired by now to not stand in fire. Also people say they have trouble seeing it. For me it is one of the clearest void zones in the game.
Off-season = best season
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6324 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 17:52:41
October 17 2016 17:52 GMT
#3527
There are addons which give warnings whenever you stand in fire etc. anyway so not seeing it is hardly a good excuse.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
October 17 2016 18:06 GMT
#3528
i dont know, the volcanic never spawns except when i look at something else for a second
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 18:33:12
October 17 2016 18:31 GMT
#3529
On October 18 2016 02:52 RvB wrote:
There are addons which give warnings whenever you stand in fire etc. anyway so not seeing it is hardly a good excuse.

GTFO does not help you with it I am pretty sure since you need to dodge based on visual before first dmg tick. Also I dont think GTFO triggers at all with this void zone.
Have to say in the +9 run I just did it was pretty annoying since it can cost you when you have to interrupt heals to move. Also saw it late a few times when things were hectic although never died from it. Probably have to play more at melee range which I cant stand for some reason.
Off-season = best season
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 17 2016 18:50 GMT
#3530
I am almost positive that the Volcanic always targets the range and I run with a triple melee setup and a tank -.-.
WriterXiao8~~
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6324 Posts
October 17 2016 18:58 GMT
#3531
On October 18 2016 03:31 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 02:52 RvB wrote:
There are addons which give warnings whenever you stand in fire etc. anyway so not seeing it is hardly a good excuse.

GTFO does not help you with it I am pretty sure since you need to dodge based on visual before first dmg tick. Also I dont think GTFO triggers at all with this void zone.
Have to say in the +9 run I just did it was pretty annoying since it can cost you when you have to interrupt heals to move. Also saw it late a few times when things were hectic although never died from it. Probably have to play more at melee range which I cant stand for some reason.

I see. My bad.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 20:16:42
October 17 2016 19:17 GMT
#3532
On October 18 2016 03:50 Kipsate wrote:
I am almost positive that the Volcanic always targets the range and I run with a triple melee setup and a tank -.-.


It acts very weirdly with 3melee, tank, healer i think. Maybe it expects multiple ranged. I've also had significant issues with it spawning under the floor and being invisible which is a huge issue when it hits for 50-100% of your HP instantly. For example on the eye of azshara lady hatecoil boss where you have the patches of land, it spawns under the land and you can't visually see it at all.. it oneshot our entire 5 man group
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
October 17 2016 21:12 GMT
#3533
Raiding Heroic Il'gynoth later tonight. Kinda scared. Our dps is pretty fucking questionable.

Downed Ursoc though :D
Writermaru pls
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22664 Posts
October 17 2016 21:26 GMT
#3534
On October 18 2016 04:17 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 03:50 Kipsate wrote:
I am almost positive that the Volcanic always targets the range and I run with a triple melee setup and a tank -.-.


It acts very weirdly with 3melee, tank, healer i think. Maybe it expects multiple ranged. I've also had significant issues with it spawning under the floor and being invisible which is a huge issue when it hits for 50-100% of your HP instantly. For example on the eye of azshara lady hatecoil boss where you have the patches of land, it spawns under the land and you can't visually see it at all.. it oneshot our entire 5 man group

Had the same issue in Neltharion's lair on the worm boss where any volcanic patch that partially overlapped with the green pools would not show up.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22664 Posts
October 17 2016 21:27 GMT
#3535
On October 18 2016 06:12 Soularion wrote:
Raiding Heroic Il'gynoth later tonight. Kinda scared. Our dps is pretty fucking questionable.

Downed Ursoc though :D

Save Bloodlust for when you come out of the eye phase.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 17 2016 21:32 GMT
#3536
On October 18 2016 06:12 Soularion wrote:
Raiding Heroic Il'gynoth later tonight. Kinda scared. Our dps is pretty fucking questionable.

Downed Ursoc though :D

Well you need less DPS for Ilgy than for Ursoc. But of course Ilgy has the added difficulty that you need to attack the right target. :D
Off-season = best season
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10970 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 21:43:14
October 17 2016 21:42 GMT
#3537
On October 18 2016 00:39 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2016 23:15 Velr wrote:
Anyone playing disc an can point me to some addons? My healing UI is atm non existant cause i mainly play shadow.


I can only give my most sincered recommendation to getting Grid and configuring it to show your essentials. It has a plugin for legion raid debuffs which is insanely helpful, but you may have to configure some of the debuffs to change their priority order (like dragons aura debuffs, it's not information I need, but I do need to know who has the disease aoe tick and there's only room for 1 center icon).

Then you'll want to have all of your healing type spells as mouseover macros (or use an addon that accomplishes same, but I personally don't see the point when m.over macros work just fine).


Last, but one of the most critical things for a disc is some form of a bossmod, be it bigwigs, dbm or exorsus, something to give you a timer bar of when exactly is boss ability X Y and Z happening, because you are in most cases start countering them 5-7 seconds before they happen. This is a must if you want to perform well as a disc, if you start radiancing after the raid was aoe bursted down to 10%, it's already far too late. The ideal scenario for a disc priest is that you'll have everyone in the raid with atonement buff just before the raid damage happens, then you light's wrath, penance the boss/add and bring everyone back to full health 0.25 seconds after the dmg happened.



to Firebolt, you know you can outrange all of the abilities of the stone throwers and scorpions? Your ranged dps + healer doesn't need to take a single point of damage from either, making healing so much easier as you only need to worry about the tank and melee dps. This is the expansion of outranging, if there's a mob ability that's painful, first check if you can outrange it, it works on so many things in mythic + and even in raids.



Thanks

Nothing really new but doing the Macros helped a ton. I'm just doing normal Mythics for now until i'm a bit more comfortable, but Disc is really fun (and fuck Serpentix , no one died but he gave me that friggin poisondebuff 4 times and things nearly went downhill)
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
October 17 2016 21:43 GMT
#3538
Volcanic works like this: Any mob in active combat has basicly an aura of 12-15 yards (not sure exact number) within no volcano will spawn. Any player outside of ANY of those auras from all active mobs is a valid target.

Thus, if you can stack everyone in basicly melee range of all of the mobs currently in combat, you'll spawn no volcanoes.


Now the fucked up part here is, mobs that fight other mobs, like in arcway where some nightfallen are fighting things like oozes, all of those mobs can spawn volcanoes on you at basicly any time you're within range of the mobs (probably ~60 yards).

So, if you can stack at melee without danger, stack at melee and no volcano no problemo.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22664 Posts
October 17 2016 21:48 GMT
#3539
On October 18 2016 06:43 daemir wrote:
Volcanic works like this: Any mob in active combat has basicly an aura of 12-15 yards (not sure exact number) within no volcano will spawn. Any player outside of ANY of those auras from all active mobs is a valid target.

Thus, if you can stack everyone in basicly melee range of all of the mobs currently in combat, you'll spawn no volcanoes.


Now the fucked up part here is, mobs that fight other mobs, like in arcway where some nightfallen are fighting things like oozes, all of those mobs can spawn volcanoes on you at basicly any time you're within range of the mobs (probably ~60 yards).

So, if you can stack at melee without danger, stack at melee and no volcano no problemo.

We have stacked all range right on a mob and got volcano's.

Pretty sure it doesn't work that way.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-17 21:50:54
October 17 2016 21:49 GMT
#3540
Tested this quite a bit early this reset and we could reproduce no volcanoes at 100% rate when we pulled a pack that we could clump up and stack in melee range.


It's just not feasible to do everywhere, because mobs have cleaves, charges and such and if any of them leap out of your safety range, a volcano will pop under everyone.
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