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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-15 19:17:35
October 15 2016 16:48 GMT
#3481
Just got so much server lag that i landed in northern stormheim and 30 seconds later got teleported back onto the flight path @suramar LMAO :D

On another note, we all did glory of the hero on week 1, 2 of launch (3 for final achievement on EU) and one of the main rewards, the artifact appearance, does not actually unlock until you complete the balance of power achievement which requires ~3-6 weeks of EN and then nighthold. It's considered an appearance variation because it's a different color of the one unlocked in Balance of Power and you cannot unlock it without having the base version.. that's really awkward!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-15 21:58:19
October 15 2016 21:54 GMT
#3482
On October 15 2016 23:23 NeonFlare wrote:
So how's everyone's progress so far? I've been playing with friends and their friends and we're working on H Xavius and have been slacking with Mythic+ 7 as our highest with few runs of them so far. Sadly there isn't enough of us on same server to try Mythic version of the raid, cross realm we do generally get around 20 or more people on raids though.

Kinda similar here. HC everything is dead but we dont have enough players for Mythic so we are now basically sitting around doing nothing. M+ we have 1 group that does up to +10 runs but I have no group so I am stuck doing PUGs. Which mostly means doing like 5/6.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 15 2016 21:59 GMT
#3483
Am looking for more mythic+ regulars eu alliance, half of today was 1-2 pugs 'cause nobody wants to run them
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
October 16 2016 01:38 GMT
#3484
What exactly is the best use of gold now? There seems to be no real gold sink like gems/enchants/etc like when i last played WoW. Im sitting on 40k gold and really have no idea what to do with it besides maybe buy a token.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 16 2016 01:50 GMT
#3485
Well some enchants are pretty expensive. But if you have enough gold you indeed by tokens. I will never again pay for WoW subscription thanks to them. It is pretty easy to have enough gold left for tokens.
Off-season = best season
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 16 2016 02:23 GMT
#3486
tbh game got so boring so fast, have no desire to chain run mythic dungeons but its like, you get just as good gear as raids why even do those

10/10 great game. i'm amazed it took me more time to burn out on Wod than it did legion l0l
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-16 04:11:20
October 16 2016 02:37 GMT
#3487
On October 16 2016 10:38 DannyJ wrote:
What exactly is the best use of gold now? There seems to be no real gold sink like gems/enchants/etc like when i last played WoW. Im sitting on 40k gold and really have no idea what to do with it besides maybe buy a token.


no real gold sink like gems/enchants/etc like when i last played WoW


Consumables are at the most expensive they've been for a long time right now. Potions are ~600-700g each at the moment and you can use two per fight, flasks are ~1500g per hour, food costs money.. The potential is there to blow 40k in one raid night, even.

My experience w/ legion so far has been lots of gold coming in and going out, i've probably spent 800k but got 500-600k back from professions etc in the last month and a half (am down overall)

you get just as good gear as raids why even do those


Mythic 7-9 gives ~855-860 gear and has similar difficulty to heroic EN (which drops 865) - mythic 10+ gives 865 but it's very hard to farm and mythic EN gives 880 gear.

Two main reasons why mythic+ is considered good for gear:

1 - You can farm it all day so it's the dominant source of gear for "those people" playing 50+ hours a week, not nearly as big of an impact on those playing normal hours

2 - EN gear is actually pretty bad, there are not many good trinkets, no tier sets yet, bad relics, there are only two drops with my BIS stats in the entire raid. Dungeons do drop well designed trinkets, they do have those armor pieces that you need and they will scale up if you make them drop 20 times for a good warforge.

7.1 and later Nighthold should fix most of #2, we have the complete mythic+ system but we've only got the weakest 35% of t19.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 16 2016 09:02 GMT
#3488
Relics are fine because HC/Mythic Nightmare does drop high level relics and for a lot of classes ilevel is what matters most when it comes to relics, maybe not the best effects but its a ton better then some of the loot that drops there. Blizzard has also stated that they might buff the trinkets from EN(cause they are pisspoor)

Honestly I would already be a little bit more happy if they could just remove dps trinkets from Disc lootpool, they are useless after the nerf.
WriterXiao8~~
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-16 10:32:39
October 16 2016 10:26 GMT
#3489
Also I have 2 relics with the 2 best effects in EN, probably just entirely random per class. 3 of 4 trinkets are also good for me, the 2 BIS trinkets among them.
Off-season = best season
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 16 2016 13:07 GMT
#3490
How is disc turning out? They have not seemed as capable as rdruid/shaman to me for straight healing but i've never seen one with good DPS either
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 16 2016 14:31 GMT
#3491
Welp, got my first legendary on my main, and obviously it's Sephuz.
It's actually worst than my 840 ring for WW if you can believe it.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
October 16 2016 14:33 GMT
#3492
On October 16 2016 22:07 Cyro wrote:
How is disc turning out? They have not seemed as capable as rdruid/shaman to me for straight healing but i've never seen one with good DPS either

Disc is a lot of fun for those of us with a lot of MMO experience but not a lot of time to play nowadays; the skill ceiling is high enough that pretty much everyone who lets you into their group thinks you're some kind of WoW god if you can keep everyone up while contributing nicely to damage output. I've been splitting my time between holy and disc and it's been a lot of fun.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-16 16:15:46
October 16 2016 14:49 GMT
#3493
On October 16 2016 23:31 Noocta wrote:
Welp, got my first legendary on my main, and obviously it's Sephuz.
It's actually worst than my 840 ring for WW if you can believe it.


840 rings have ~1768 stat, Sephuz has 2322(including socket w/ a 150 gem)

Sephuz triggers for ~4875 haste with ~33% uptime, average buff of 1625 haste but worth more because it's in a controlled burst.

If you can reliably trigger the effect then it's literally twice as powerful as the best ring that i have. If you can't trigger it at all and crit is awful for you then it's not amazing; that's kinda fine since it has wide application in world and dungeon content as well as a few raid fights. Having taken a closer look at it, it's quite obviously one of the better legendaries for dungeon DH and i don't think it would be trash tier for monks even if they lost the stat allocation lottery
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-16 16:06:46
October 16 2016 15:59 GMT
#3494
On October 16 2016 23:31 Noocta wrote:
Welp, got my first legendary on my main, and obviously it's Sephuz.
It's actually worst than my 840 ring for WW if you can believe it.

i don't think that should be the case unless your secondary stats are REALLY messed up right now. this article gives some good info on how to do WW secondary stats: http://walkingthewind.com/2016/09/14/stat-weights-and-you/

when mastery is 4500 above versatility, and versatility is 800 (or 400 for blood elf) above crit, then the value of more mastery, crit, or vers are equal. and even when that's not the case, the stats aren't so wildly different (Agility=1, HasteRating=0.46, MasteryRating=0.62, Versatility=0.53, CritRating=0.54). i've seen a lot of WW's messing this up, always gemming/enchanting for more mastery and eating mastery food when they already have so much mastery that versatility and crit are more valuable for them

so in order for sephuz to be worse, ignoring its effect, and assuming your 840 ring also has a socket like sephuz does, your WW must already have a ton more crit/haste than mastery/vers. im not even sure what the math is but it'd have to be so much more crit/haste i cant even imagine it. 403 extra stats, even when some of that is haste, is super hard for WW to overcome. you'd have to have gotten so many crit/haste ilvl upgrades that you're stuck wearing

if i were you i'd at least gem it and enchant it and do some 10 minute parses on the dummy, with it and without it, and see if a difference appears in the numbers.

regardless, i'd absolutely wear it in dungeons and use paralysis or leg sweep every time its effect is off cooldown
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 16 2016 17:58 GMT
#3495
Oh don't worry Nony, I know all about the stats weight from Walking trhe wind, and the ring is usable, but its pretty weak overall. Even when you get decent uptime on it, the 15% haste isn't exactly amazing for WW.

When I'm going to be past the salt from getting that one, i'll agree its actually okay
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
October 16 2016 18:02 GMT
#3496
Okayish in dungeons, shitty in raids.

I'd usually say sim it but I suspect simc probably can't sim a ring like this
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-16 18:17:05
October 16 2016 18:08 GMT
#3497
On October 17 2016 02:58 Noocta wrote:
Oh don't worry Nony, I know all about the stats weight from Walking trhe wind, and the ring is usable, but its pretty weak overall. Even when you get decent uptime on it, the 15% haste isn't exactly amazing for WW.

When I'm going to be past the salt from getting that one, i'll agree its actually okay


A burst of 4875 of any stat is very good. If you hit that at the start of a singletarget fight with cooldowns it can increase your damage dealt to the boss by ~600k to 1 million by the time that it drops off. It has the strength of three rings while the effect is on :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
October 16 2016 18:12 GMT
#3498
Cyro are you playing Horde or Alliance?
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
October 16 2016 18:14 GMT
#3499
Alliance
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-16 18:33:02
October 16 2016 18:32 GMT
#3500
On October 17 2016 03:14 Cyro wrote:
Alliance


Cool. Add me if you're looking for someome to run mythic+ with. Main spec is resto OS guardian, both around 865. I'm playing semi casual due to time constraints but I've done up to +10 in both specs. Infinity#2447
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
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