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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
September 21 2016 11:41 GMT
#2641
On September 21 2016 20:35 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2016 20:31 crappen wrote:
Any youtube channel that have raid guide for legion? I remember we had 2minute guide in WoD, but I can't find it anymore. It was really neat.

fatboss? tho they are longer then a few minutes


I feel he just talks randomly about the boss while showing random footage.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 12:28:11
September 21 2016 11:50 GMT
#2642
We're managing to do +3 timer on the initial mythic run which is pretty nice (gives 2880 AP + 6 epics split across group ~840-850 base from a ~17-25m run)

Mythic+5 wrecked us pretty hard, had a few nasty wipes and lessons.. not sure that +10 is doable this week for us

Two of the guys i'm playing with got legendary drops from mythic+ chests a couple hours apart
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 13:03:52
September 21 2016 12:57 GMT
#2643
I healed a +4 with a pretty unimpressive pug group that messed up a ton of stuff and wasn't pulling great DPS numbers anyway. +2 and +3 are hardly different from Mythic. I mean we all agree Mythic was downright easy and the +dmg and +health from those is too small to really make a difference. I think +4 is the first time you can really feel it. +10 seems really hard and I'm not sure I'll be able to put a group together to attempt it with this week. I feel like with using consumables and having a good group comp and good players and a good plan, it'd be fun to attempt really high. But most such players already have their groups set.

I really like how it's a speed run every time. Suffering through slow runs, slow people, has been painful. And now the thing to do is speed and I love it.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 13:08:01
September 21 2016 13:06 GMT
#2644
+4 Vault of Wardens was pretty hard I must say. Did not get the time due to wipes on first and second boss. Other bosses felt really easy. Was just a random group though with some good and some weaker players.
+2/+3 felt indeed not different from normal mythic.

Overall I really like the mythic+ system.
Off-season = best season
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 13:10:02
September 21 2016 13:08 GMT
#2645
Vault does seem like hard one. My +4 was either on Neltharion's or Maw -- I can't remember atm and can't check.

I'm gonna try to pug EN Normal today and then probably do some more Mythic+ to gear up and search for a group able to go high.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 21 2016 13:12 GMT
#2646
While speed runs are neat and all, I feel slow runs lets you socialise more in an appropriate setting - like raids are sloow.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
September 21 2016 13:26 GMT
#2647
Some dungeons are way harder than others at +2 or +3; court of stars and HoV were much more stressful than maw or nelth
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 21 2016 14:37 GMT
#2648
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that only the person who submits his keystone gets the updated keystone. Won't people prefer to do it in known groups without risking it with anyone else?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22435 Posts
September 21 2016 14:39 GMT
#2649
On September 21 2016 23:37 Firebolt145 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that only the person who submits his keystone gets the updated keystone. Won't people prefer to do it in known groups without risking it with anyone else?

Ideally yes you want to go with a known group that you know can make it but if you cant find one then presumably you can find groups who are looking for a keystone to use since they already exhausted their own.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
September 21 2016 14:40 GMT
#2650
only the person submitting gets the upgraded keystone, but the completion confers loot upon everyone, both at the end of the dungeon and at week's end reset.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 21 2016 14:55 GMT
#2651
On September 21 2016 23:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2016 23:37 Firebolt145 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that only the person who submits his keystone gets the updated keystone. Won't people prefer to do it in known groups without risking it with anyone else?

Ideally yes you want to go with a known group that you know can make it but if you cant find one then presumably you can find groups who are looking for a keystone to use since they already exhausted their own.

I don't understand the whole thing completely yet but is there a risk of people using you for your keystone and then kicking you? Or am I being paranoid.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
September 21 2016 14:56 GMT
#2652
once the keystone is activated in a dungeon, only the 5 members in the dungeon at the time of activation can participate.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 21 2016 14:56 GMT
#2653
So basically it's safe and completely reasonable to do it with randoms. Got it.
Moderator
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 14:59:45
September 21 2016 14:59 GMT
#2654
Wait so you can do endless mythic+ and get endless loot as long as you find more people with keystones who will take you on groups?
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
September 21 2016 15:00 GMT
#2655
I'm not sure how that works dungeon to dungeon, but the end of week loot is tied to the highest level of completed mythic.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22435 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 15:08:36
September 21 2016 15:06 GMT
#2656
On September 21 2016 23:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
Wait so you can do endless mythic+ and get endless loot as long as you find more people with keystones who will take you on groups?

Yes. there are no lockouts for mythic+. you can do them infinitely so long as you can find someone with a keystone.

The 'risk' you run from pugging is not making the timer, only getting 1 chest and depleting your keystone.
Meaning that runs using that keystone will not give further loot until you make the timer.

You get 1 chest so long as the key was not depleted from the start, and you get up to 3 more chests based on how fast you completed it (and each chest will also upgrade your keystone higher. so if you are really fast and go from 2 to 5 you get 3 chests.

Each chest has 2 items that are distributed through personal loot.

At the start of the next week you can loot a chest in your order hall that has 1 item based on the highest mythic+ you completed that week (does not have to be your keystone).
at mythic10 this will give an 880 mythic raid item.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 15:24:35
September 21 2016 15:13 GMT
#2657
On September 21 2016 22:26 farvacola wrote:
Some dungeons are way harder than others at +2 or +3; court of stars and HoV were much more stressful than maw or nelth

Well court of stars is gonna vary a lot depending on what races/classes/professions you bring and what buffs are available. If you get the good buffs, can distract those mini-bosses, and disable the constructs... Or if you have a paladin tank for finding the spy, to save time. My main is pretty good, since I can get the +10% damage buff (blood elf), the health/mana regen (monk), distract one mini-boss (JC) and disable constructs (engi).

On September 22 2016 00:06 Gorsameth wrote:
at mythic10 this will give an 880 mythic raid item

Those items come from the EN loot table? Or what do you mean by raid item?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 15:24:13
September 21 2016 15:23 GMT
#2658
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22435 Posts
September 21 2016 15:31 GMT
#2659
On September 22 2016 00:13 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2016 22:26 farvacola wrote:
Some dungeons are way harder than others at +2 or +3; court of stars and HoV were much more stressful than maw or nelth

Well court of stars is gonna vary a lot depending on what races/classes/professions you bring and what buffs are available. If you get the good buffs, can distract those mini-bosses, and disable the constructs... Or if you have a paladin tank for finding the spy, to save time. My main is pretty good, since I can get the +10% damage buff (blood elf), the health/mana regen (monk), distract one mini-boss (JC) and disable constructs (engi).

Show nested quote +
On September 22 2016 00:06 Gorsameth wrote:
at mythic10 this will give an 880 mythic raid item

Those items come from the EN loot table? Or what do you mean by raid item?

I'm not actually sure what loot table the weekly mythic+ chest items come from. I just know what ilvl that are
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 21 2016 15:39 GMT
#2660
On September 22 2016 00:06 Gorsameth wrote:
The 'risk' you run from pugging is not making the timer, only getting 1 chest and depleting your keystone.

Which isn't a risk if it's someone else's keystone in the first place, right?
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