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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 21:19:46
September 08 2015 21:15 GMT
#1641
--- Nuked ---
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
September 08 2015 21:41 GMT
#1642
"Wilson never throws the football"

I can think of a time he did....

Who knows what effect Graham will have on that offense. Obviously Wilson isn't going to be slinging it, but they've also never had a receiver as good as Graham since who the hell knows when.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 08 2015 22:18 GMT
#1643
On September 08 2015 06:25 QuanticHawk wrote:
drafting for bye week is overrated. The only point I might even remotely consider it is when you're filling bench slots but at that point I am more interested in taking high risk high reward players that might surprise and become outright starters vs a one week filler. I could get that off waiver any time.

Depending on your overall scoring (ie. .5 or 1pt ppr?, 6td passing, etc, what positions, etc) and who your keeper was I think you are underrating your team. This team is much better if it's 2WR than 3WR.

I'd be happy with Forte and Hill in a ppr. I also think Ivory is a steal in the 7th and I am mad that I didn't grab him in any of my drafts. He has zero competition and ran well in the same shitty offense while splitting time. Now he's pretty much the unquestioned lead RB. I think 1000yds 8td and 30 catches is realistic. If you have a flex he'll probably start at it.

If your keeper wasn't an elite WR you are gonna be hurting at WR. Tate's really the only reliable player you have. Independently, I think all the WRs you selected are good high risk high reward picks, esp pairing Allen with Rivers.

Tate I think is a solid #2. I think Landry and Allen have a decent shot at being #2s in a 12 man league, but they're at the very worst #3 WRs I think. Landry will be better in a PPR league. The rest of your WRs are guys who might evolve into starting WRs, but will probably be WR4s or so otherwise. While I like your RBs, I don't think they're that good to make up for a ho hum wr group (at least right now).

QB is actually totally fine imo. You can just play match ups with those two and come out fine. TE is ok but the DEF and K are pretty solid.



That was my intention after I saw the way the first couple rounds played out. The Keepers were all top tier WRs and the first picks were the Second tier of WRs so I took the Value in Forte and Hill and planned to stock up on someone consistent along side Tate(See Landry) after that pick I tried to pick WRs that will see the field a lot and could develop into WR2s or 3s. If Allen preforms as well as Rivers says he did in camp I think I'm ok. Williams, Wheaton and Parker all provide huge upside if they find roles in their offense. Especially Parker and Wheaton.

Victor Cruz is still an FA in my league along side Antonio Gates. When they get closer to seeing the field I might look into them. Also David Johnson is available.

Our League is also
1QB
2RB
2WR
1TE
1Q/W/R/T
1K
1DEF

With 1 per reception with everything else looking relatively standard(6 per rushing/receiving TD).
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 23:31:16
September 08 2015 23:20 GMT
#1644
Alright, I'm a complete newbie to this whole fantasy thing, but have got sucked into an 8-team league with my sportsteam and dear me do I ever need help! We'll be drafting 09.09.2015 at 2 PM ET (snake draft, random order) so I have less than 24 hours preparation. Our team-compostion should be:

1QB
2RB
2WR
1TE
1FLEX
1D/ST
1K
7 BE (bench?)

I'm already googling away and reading on nfl.com, but I'm unsure how to make a strategy for the draft. Can anyone give any pointers for a good strategy? I'll be grateful for anything, even simple stuff like "RBs first are a good idea" (is it?).

EDIT: Also, I wouldn't mind hearing some punny team-names :p
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 23:39:51
September 08 2015 23:39 GMT
#1645
On September 09 2015 05:53 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 05:37 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:22 SolaR- wrote:
Coxson is a nobody. Rodgers is fine. This guy just came out with this because he has nothing else going for him. It's his 2 minutes of fame

Yeah how dare he prioritize his long term health over playing in the nfl, what a drama whore.


Anyone else remember how the seahawks could totally pay all their stars and keep them all? Chancelor is threatening to hold out for the full year unless they pay him star saftey money, and they can't do it for him or all their stars would demand it. This could get interesting.

I never understood why the Hawks picked up Graham when Wilson never throws the football. They could have used Grahams salary to pay for Chancelor. Hawks have overextended themselves.

Well we already did pay Kam. We gave him a $28 million 4-year extension. I believe the team thought that this meant it was done and we'd only have to worry about this 3 years down the road. His deal at the time was top notch for strong safeties and he's still being paid extremely well for his position, though much of it isn't guaranteed.

Then there's also the part where giving into his demands sets a terrible precedent, even if we did have the money to do so. We already had Marshawn holding out, though that's all good now. We had Michael Bennett holding out too, that's still a pending issue even if he's been reporting in. How many other players would start skipping camp if we rewarded guys for holding out? It sucks because we love Kam and we can see why he's unsatisfied with his contract, but we can't give in to pressure because that might just mean more trouble later.


On September 09 2015 05:22 SolaR- wrote:
Coxson is a nobody. Rodgers is fine. This guy just came out with this because he has nothing else going for him. It's his 2 minutes of fame

That's a really cold reaction to a guy who just wants to remember his own name 20 years down the line. What's wrong with you?
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 08 2015 23:54 GMT
#1646
On September 09 2015 08:20 Ghostcom wrote:
Alright, I'm a complete newbie to this whole fantasy thing, but have got sucked into an 8-team league with my sportsteam and dear me do I ever need help! We'll be drafting 09.09.2015 at 2 PM ET (snake draft, random order) so I have less than 24 hours preparation. Our team-compostion should be:

1QB
2RB
2WR
1TE
1FLEX
1D/ST
1K
7 BE (bench?)

I'm already googling away and reading on nfl.com, but I'm unsure how to make a strategy for the draft. Can anyone give any pointers for a good strategy? I'll be grateful for anything, even simple stuff like "RBs first are a good idea" (is it?).

EDIT: Also, I wouldn't mind hearing some punny team-names :p

Well it would be beneficial to know your scoring system. Your lineup is very conventional so that gives us a good start.

Personally, I'd target any of these guys in my top 8 (first round):

Adrian Peterson
Le'Veon Bell
Eddie Lacy
Marshawn Lynch
Antonio Brown
Matt Forte
Jamaal Charles
Demariyus Thomas
Andrew Luck
Aaron Rodgers

In your first round, you'll probably be able to take any of these guys and be fine. Now, if you want to take it a bit deeper, 5 of those guys are RBs, but you need more RBs so it's always safe to pick up a bit of depth. However, if you start to dip into RBs that aren't that good just to get one, you risk losing value because you're doing what's called "picking at the end of a run". For example, if you're the 6th guy in a row to pick a RB to start the draft, you're likely at an inherent disadvantage because everyone else got the same position as you did but a better one.

To counteract this, I like to zig when others are zagging. If everyone is piling on at RB I like to be the first one to grab a receiver (took Antonio Brown as the first non-RB in my 8 team league at 6 overall).

The other major strategy point I would give is that if your league plays in a PPR (points per reception, where anyone who catches a pass gets a point for the catch on top of the rest of the points) league, you want to value the top end receivers more highly than you would ordinarily. In this case, I'd take Brown 1st overall and treat the WRs as equal to the RBs.

Some advanced tips:
-If you don't get Rob Gronkowski or Jimmy Graham, you can probably wait until a later round to pick a TE. I would target some high upside TEs such as Delanie Walker, Jordan Cameron, or Owen Daniels if I was going to employ this strategy (I did in one league, riding with Daniels, though this is super risky).
-If you don't get Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, or maybe Peyton Manning, you can wait until a later round to pick a TE. I would target any one of the following if it's late enough: Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Joe Flacco, Ryan Tannehill (THIS IS THE GUY YOU WANT). Some of those guys will be gone earlier, but when people start taking their second QBs, take your first if you don't get one of the first three.
-Wait until the last two rounds to pick defenses and kickers. Kickers you want: Stephen Gostkowski, Justin Tucker, Cody Parkey, Dan Bailey, really it doesn't matter. The difference is negligible.
-With defenses, you can do what is called streaming, where you pick up a new one every weak if they're playing a bad team. This allows you to not waste an early pick on an overrated defense when they'll not be much better than this streaming strategy. Defenses to target are the Carolina Panthers (playing Jacksonville, the team you always want to have the opposing defense of) and the New York Jets (playing Cleveland).

Last piece of advice: Have some fun! People get too serious about fantasy football and forget that we all play this silly game to have a good time.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 11:43:00
September 09 2015 00:06 GMT
#1647
Thank you so much! For potential future discussion: I think it is standard scoring (i.e. no points seems to be awarded for a reception). At what round would you pull the trigger on i.e. Gronk? Also, am I overrating Romo? I think with Dez and that o-line he should be able to be decently productive (i.e. better than Rivers?)

EDIT: We ended up being 2 short as people didn't show up, so my beautiful spreadsheet will have to find use next year instead. Thanks for the help though - seems like it could be a lot of fun.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 01:11:06
September 09 2015 01:10 GMT
#1648
On September 09 2015 09:06 Ghostcom wrote:
Thank you so much! For potential future discussion: I think it is standard scoring (i.e. no points seems to be awarded for a reception). At what round would you pull the trigger on i.e. Gronk? Also, am I overrating Romo? I think with Dez and that o-line he should be able to be decently productive (i.e. better than Rivers?)

I'm not a Gronk supporter because I think you have to pay too much for the upside at the pick you take him. Best case he provides a bit more than the pick you took him (like 12-15 overall) and worst case he hurts himself. Again.

I don't like Romo this year for a few reasons, few of which have to do with him. First, the running game will not be as good this year, it just can't be. Second, he had crazy efficiency stats last year on fewer attempts. I could see him chucking it a ton this year (550+ attempts versus like 450 last year) but the efficiency will drop, limiting the upside, and he was still only like 11th last year. For the price you probably have to pay to get him, he's not worth it, but if he drops, sure, go right ahead. He and Rivers are of the class where it is really dependent on who of the middling QBs gets picked, then you poach the rest.

The kind of guy I don't want is the Matt Ryan type, who's going in like the 65ish range. That kind of guy is the one who has you finish in 4th place: consistent, but not good enough to validate not waiting until the 13th and picking Jay Cutler or some other guy.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 09 2015 02:35 GMT
#1649
Matt Ryan totally fucked me the year I took him in fantasy. never again
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 09 2015 02:39 GMT
#1650
How can Matt Ryan fuck you? Doesn't even seem possible.
Freeeeeeedom
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 03:21:21
September 09 2015 03:19 GMT
#1651
On September 09 2015 11:39 cLutZ wrote:
How can Matt Ryan fuck you? Doesn't even seem possible.

I was looking at the season I had him just now and I guess I overreacted. All my losses that year were by < 10 points and most of my wins were pretty solid. I finished the year off with Tony Romo but missed the playoffs by 1 game. I had Ryan the year the Falcons went 4-12 so he was just doing pretty poor.

I actually missed out bad on that season because of Doug Martin (2013)
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Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 04:00:44
September 09 2015 03:59 GMT
#1652
On September 09 2015 04:26 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Rookie Green Bay WR is retiring amid concussion concerns. Cobb injured, nelson injured, coxson retiring, who is rodgers going to throw to?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2562627-adrian-coxson-retires-latest-comments-and-reaction?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Show nested quote +


Still dealing with the symptoms of a severe Grade 3 concussion, former Green Bay Packers wide receiver Adrian Coxson announced his retirement from football Monday.

Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post reported the news and added what Coxson had to say about his decision:

I'm retiring because I'm still having symptoms and my health is more important to me than the game of football. ... It's been recommended to me by two neurologists and two doctors to retire from football. The next hit to my head could possibly kill me or be life damaging. This last one could be life damaging. It has taken a great toll on me. This concussion was a bad one. A Grade 3 concussion is real serious.

[...] It's definitely tough. ... I worked hard all my life and I felt I was achieving my life-long goal. Unfortunately, I got hit in the head in practice and it was really bad for me. I couldn't describe how bad it is.

Coxson was an undrafted rookie out of Stony Brook and also spoke about his excitement about being on the receiving end of passes from Packers superstar quarterback Aaron Rodgers. Unfortunately, his career was derailed when he suffered a concussion on the third day of Green Bay's training camp.

This development will only draw more attention to player safety issues, particularly with regard to traumatic head injuries. San Francisco 49ers linebacker Chris Borland retired earlier this year at the age of 24 because of such concerns—and his situation wasn't as severe as Coxson's.

The Packers have endured a tough offseason in their receiving corps. In addition to Coxson's abrupt retirement, star wideout Jordy Nelson tore his ACL, and Randall Cobb had a shoulder injury scare of his own during Week 3 of the preseason.

But the focus here is on Coxson's well-being, hoping he can make a full recovery and enjoy a high quality of life after his dream of competing on the gridiron at the highest level was cut short.


pretty sure the sequence of events was :
Aug 1. Coxson leaves field in ambulance with concussion >>> some time later GB drops him >>> about a month later he comes out and says he's retiring.

seems to me he just got dropped, then couldn't find another team to pick him up....so he makes an excuse for not being very good.
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 08:22:43
September 09 2015 08:22 GMT
#1653
anyone interested in a pick'em (possibly with spread and or confidence) or a survivor league?

or in one I could join?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 10 2015 03:49 GMT
#1654
So much yes, when Brian Dawkins is narrating Eagles hype video.
Forever Young
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
September 10 2015 03:56 GMT
#1655
Anybody other than me picking the Giants over the Boys? I think Manning and Beckham can outscore Romo and Bryant in a shootout.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
September 10 2015 10:07 GMT
#1656
On September 10 2015 12:49 sung_moon wrote:
So much yes, when Brian Dawkins is narrating Eagles hype video.


that video got me unbelievably pumped!
: o )
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 21:56:07
September 10 2015 21:54 GMT
#1657
Eli Manning finally got paid
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000525338/article/eli-manning-giants-finalizing-4year-84m-extension


Eli Manning is about to get his wish.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday that the Giants and Manning are finalizing a four-year, $84 million extension that could be signed by Friday, according to sources close to the situation.
Every game, all season

Rapoport reported Wednesday that significant progress had been made in negotiations and optimism had grown that a deal would be in place before the Giants open the season on Sunday night against the Dallas Cowboys.

The deal is similar to recent extensions given to Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers and Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson. Manning's $21 million average per year salary would come in slightly behind Wilson ($21.9 million) and just ahead of Rivers (20.8 million). Aaron Rodgers ($22 million) is the NFL's highest-paid signal-caller.

No big-money extension is a sure thing as an investment, but Manning, 34, is pretty close. He has never missed a start in 11 seasons, has nearly every Giants passing record and, of course, owns two Super Bowl MVP awards. His agent, Tom Condon, made the fair point that Manning's unflappable nature in the New York spotlight is a factor in negotiations.

Whether or not he should be regarded as one of the game's top quarterbacks, the Giants are thrilled to stay in business with one of their shining sons.

Seems kinda cheap for a 2 time superbowl champ in todays market...
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 10 2015 22:07 GMT
#1658
Heard there is 60% chance of thunderstorms at kickoff tonight
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
September 10 2015 22:39 GMT
#1659
On September 11 2015 07:07 Shellshock wrote:
Heard there is 60% chance of thunderstorms at kickoff tonight

It's been raining here off and on all day. Feel like the rain could make this game interesting as neither team has a great secondary
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
September 10 2015 23:45 GMT
#1660
I'm all for watching some slop. Blount 200yards and 2TDs?
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
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