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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
January 07 2016 19:38 GMT
#4341
I think Lovie is overrated as a HC but this is pretty dumb. Only reason I can think of is that they have a guy they want already set up. Hopefully this doesn't crush Winston's progress
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-07 19:40:43
January 07 2016 19:40 GMT
#4342
lot of people saying they think the Bucs are just going to promote Dirk Koetter from OC and were worried about losing him to another job since a few teams showed interest

They also let Leslie Frazier go today who was their DC
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
January 07 2016 21:09 GMT
#4343
If that's what they are doing I can't say I disagree anymore then. You keep the continuity of your offense for Winston and hope your faith in Koetter is well placed.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 07 2016 22:07 GMT
#4344
Calvin Johnson will not be attending the pro bowl. Allen Robinson is now a pro bowler (as he should have been anyway)
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51584 Posts
January 08 2016 00:15 GMT
#4345
megatron rumors towards retirement.
love him and all but if he retires early would he warrant hof talk?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-08 00:39:30
January 08 2016 00:37 GMT
#4346
I think he would be pretty borderline still. He had some great seasons but his career numbers still arent high enough to get in imo. Plus WR seems to be a pretty hard position to get in especially since everyone in the near future's numbers are going to keep getting inflated thanks to rule changes

He has to do enough to outweigh the fact that he has no playoff wins let alone no rings
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-08 04:11:22
January 08 2016 04:10 GMT
#4347
He's absolutely a HOF player to me. He was regarded as the best WR in the game for a good 4 years. That's enough for induction when adding on the fact that he had other good years.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-08 04:36:32
January 08 2016 04:36 GMT
#4348
As a Bears fan I never cared much about Calvin Johnson, but also, during most of his prime I wasn't invested in a Bears victory in any of the games. In 2010-11, the last good Bears team I remember feeling like he couldn't do much against us. Perhaps a Packers fan, since they have been relevant during more of his prime and didn't have the kind of anti-Calvin defense we did in the good years would be more open to his HOF creds. Personally I've always been more afraid of AP.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-08 05:38:04
January 08 2016 05:37 GMT
#4349
I don't think he'd really hit his prime in 2010 though. Also our QB was Shaun Hill.

The next season he had 211 and 1 TD in 2 games vs ya'll. But yeah, he really brought it for the Packers.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-08 15:52:43
January 08 2016 15:51 GMT
#4350
I would say yes/ Had like 4 years of sheer dominance where he was unquestionably the best WR, and the rest of his career he was pretty much always top 5 or so. He owns the single season yardage record, 27th in all time yardage and not far out from top 15.

Not even a playoff win will hurt him, as stupid as that is. But every HOF values dumb team shit like that, or longevity, over dominance a lot. It's also pretty fucking stupid imo that Marvin Harrison wasn't a no brainer. If TO isn't a 1st ballot ( he won't be of course) it is fucking stupid.

Which is to say I could see the HOF making Megatron wait a bit. Andre Reed's in the fucking HOF and Marvin Harrison isn't
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 08 2016 19:27 GMT
#4351
If he retires that would be 2 really great players that the Lions effectively drilled the motivation out of to retire. Though in Johnson's case he seems really beat up.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
January 09 2016 03:15 GMT
#4352
Texans - dunno why, but kc doesn't impress me and there's always an upset
Seahawks
Steelers
Packers

Anyone think the Vikings can pull some magic out?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 09 2016 03:20 GMT
#4353
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 04:59:24
January 09 2016 03:29 GMT
#4354
On January 09 2016 12:20 JimmiC wrote:
Nope,

But I got Bengals, Skins KC and the hawks.

That being said weather is going to awful in min so you never know. They say muscle injuries the worst in cold so lynch could be out early.



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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 09 2016 04:44 GMT
#4355
On January 09 2016 00:51 QuanticHawk wrote:
I would say yes/ Had like 4 years of sheer dominance where he was unquestionably the best WR, and the rest of his career he was pretty much always top 5 or so. He owns the single season yardage record, 27th in all time yardage and not far out from top 15.

Not even a playoff win will hurt him, as stupid as that is. But every HOF values dumb team shit like that, or longevity, over dominance a lot. It's also pretty fucking stupid imo that Marvin Harrison wasn't a no brainer. If TO isn't a 1st ballot ( he won't be of course) it is fucking stupid.

Which is to say I could see the HOF making Megatron wait a bit. Andre Reed's in the fucking HOF and Marvin Harrison isn't

I agreed with you fully until you made that last comment. Andre Reed absolutely deserves to be in the HOF and had to wait 9 years to get there.

That said, I remember watching TO and Harrison. They, along with Moss were the 3 best receivers in the league for seemingly 5+ years, with perhaps Holt or Bruce breaking in. They should all be first ballot HOFers.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 09 2016 05:43 GMT
#4356
On January 09 2016 13:44 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 00:51 QuanticHawk wrote:
I would say yes/ Had like 4 years of sheer dominance where he was unquestionably the best WR, and the rest of his career he was pretty much always top 5 or so. He owns the single season yardage record, 27th in all time yardage and not far out from top 15.

Not even a playoff win will hurt him, as stupid as that is. But every HOF values dumb team shit like that, or longevity, over dominance a lot. It's also pretty fucking stupid imo that Marvin Harrison wasn't a no brainer. If TO isn't a 1st ballot ( he won't be of course) it is fucking stupid.

Which is to say I could see the HOF making Megatron wait a bit. Andre Reed's in the fucking HOF and Marvin Harrison isn't

I agreed with you fully until you made that last comment. Andre Reed absolutely deserves to be in the HOF and had to wait 9 years to get there.

That said, I remember watching TO and Harrison. They, along with Moss were the 3 best receivers in the league for seemingly 5+ years, with perhaps Holt or Bruce breaking in. They should all be first ballot HOFers.

Also never a fab of Harrison. He was a cog, I'd rather have any of the top 5, maybe 10 outside WRs in the league right now.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
January 09 2016 07:35 GMT
#4357
Lynch out, Vikings have legit shot IMO.

Megatron - not a 1st ballot HOFer right now.

Bob Quinn - Anyone who's been a personnel guy for NE probably knows something. We'll see how that translates to coaches (at least it's probably a good sign for JC keeping his job).
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
January 09 2016 14:08 GMT
#4358
On January 09 2016 13:44 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 00:51 QuanticHawk wrote:
I would say yes/ Had like 4 years of sheer dominance where he was unquestionably the best WR, and the rest of his career he was pretty much always top 5 or so. He owns the single season yardage record, 27th in all time yardage and not far out from top 15.

Not even a playoff win will hurt him, as stupid as that is. But every HOF values dumb team shit like that, or longevity, over dominance a lot. It's also pretty fucking stupid imo that Marvin Harrison wasn't a no brainer. If TO isn't a 1st ballot ( he won't be of course) it is fucking stupid.

Which is to say I could see the HOF making Megatron wait a bit. Andre Reed's in the fucking HOF and Marvin Harrison isn't

I agreed with you fully until you made that last comment. Andre Reed absolutely deserves to be in the HOF and had to wait 9 years to get there.

That said, I remember watching TO and Harrison. They, along with Moss were the 3 best receivers in the league for seemingly 5+ years, with perhaps Holt or Bruce breaking in. They should all be first ballot HOFers.


Reed made it in instead of Harrison, making Harrison no longer a first ballot - which is ridiculous considering how much of an absolute beast he was. Multiple players have named him as the hardest WR to cover in their era. His routes were insanely crisp.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 09 2016 15:42 GMT
#4359
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
January 09 2016 18:25 GMT
#4360
On January 09 2016 14:43 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 13:44 AgentW wrote:
On January 09 2016 00:51 QuanticHawk wrote:
I would say yes/ Had like 4 years of sheer dominance where he was unquestionably the best WR, and the rest of his career he was pretty much always top 5 or so. He owns the single season yardage record, 27th in all time yardage and not far out from top 15.

Not even a playoff win will hurt him, as stupid as that is. But every HOF values dumb team shit like that, or longevity, over dominance a lot. It's also pretty fucking stupid imo that Marvin Harrison wasn't a no brainer. If TO isn't a 1st ballot ( he won't be of course) it is fucking stupid.

Which is to say I could see the HOF making Megatron wait a bit. Andre Reed's in the fucking HOF and Marvin Harrison isn't

I agreed with you fully until you made that last comment. Andre Reed absolutely deserves to be in the HOF and had to wait 9 years to get there.

That said, I remember watching TO and Harrison. They, along with Moss were the 3 best receivers in the league for seemingly 5+ years, with perhaps Holt or Bruce breaking in. They should all be first ballot HOFers.

Also never a fab of Harrison. He was a cog, I'd rather have any of the top 5, maybe 10 outside WRs in the league right now.

Then you prefer worse WRs.

Harrison wasn't flashy, but he was damn skilled and damn good. One of the best route runners ever, probably the best since Jerry Rice. He made guys look bad and they didn't even know how he did it. TO and Moss had the big personalities so they always overshadowed him, but he was right there with them.

Harrison also put up these numbers playing along side another top WR in Reggie Wayne for many years. Owens never really had a guy near that level on the other side. Moss had Cris Carter, but for way less amount of time.

The biggest argument against Harrison is that Peyton Manning was his QB.
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