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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
On March 19 2015 08:57 Ghostcom wrote: I was actually at a medical symposium on brain injuries and american football was by the neurologists unanimously deemed more dangerous than all fighting sports, including boxing and MMA. Ghost can you please shed more light on that? Any particular speaker impressed you or anything you found surprising/interesting? Currently studying some neuroscience myself and would love to be enlightened by some current findings or discussions. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23879 Posts
On March 19 2015 09:21 farvacola wrote: I think the answer is pretty clear. Directional forces on the head are greatest in American Football because of the highest speed, most frequent collisions in sports and lots of directional force applied to the head with relatively high frequency. Yeah I could see being a professional sparring | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
The 1 year part is nice insofar as he will play hard (though it could hurt them in FA next year if he beasts), but that is a lot of money for a player who almost certainly is going to get suspended for the first 6 games of next year. Plus he seems kinda fucked up. Should help the defense though. Edit: Actually some more interesting specifics: "It’s a one-year contract, which carries a salary of $750,000. He can earn up to a total of $13.1 million (which was his base salary as Carolina’s franchise player in 2014) through a series of per-game roster bonuses, incentives, and a large workout bonus. Specifically, Hardy can earn a workout bonus of $1.3116 million, a whopping $9.25 million in per-game roster bonuses, and $1.3116 million in incentives based on sacks." and : "JJT is reporting this deal only counts $2.6M against our 2015 cap (which obviously means we have a potential $10M hit in 2016 for a guy playing for another team)." That's not as bad then for this year but could hurt bad next. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On March 19 2015 09:03 Titusmaster6 wrote: Ghost can you please shed more light on that? Any particular speaker impressed you or anything you found surprising/interesting? Currently studying some neuroscience myself and would love to be enlightened by some current findings or discussions. I think the most surprising thing to me was how safe MMA actually is. That american football was dangerous was no surprise - the forces involved in the collusions are simply much greater than what a boxer can muster in a strike. Furthermore, the padding and helmets are probably part of the issue as there is a certain feeling of invulnerability when wearing them. Lastly players have historically played when they really shouldn't because they deemed themselves too important to the success of their team. None of this is really all that new to be honest - this was only a 45 minute session. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
On March 19 2015 20:18 Ghostcom wrote: I think the most surprising thing to me was how safe MMA actually is. That american football was dangerous was no surprise - the forces involved in the collusions are simply much greater than what a boxer can muster in a strike. Furthermore, the padding and helmets are probably part of the issue as there is a certain feeling of invulnerability when wearing them. Lastly players have historically played when they really shouldn't because they deemed themselves too important to the success of their team. None of this is really all that new to be honest - this was only a 45 minute session. Ah ok, thought there would be some more stuff. Thanks | ||
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Spiller
United States106 Posts
On March 19 2015 20:24 Titusmaster6 wrote: Ah ok, thought there would be some more stuff. Thanks I remember seeing something with regards to American football that, when they put trackers in helmets that measure impact force, they were shocked at how many smaller ( but still considered "significant") impacts were measured by relatively non-contact positions such as QB. If you watch football you will notice after good plays teammates will often slap each others helmets in congratulations and it turns out even these relatively minor hits add up over time. Not to mention the crazy guys who bang helmets together, etc. to get pumped up before games or important drives. Pretty crazy stuff that even 10 years ago most people would have never considered. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
On March 19 2015 20:18 Ghostcom wrote: I think the most surprising thing to me was how safe MMA actually is. That american football was dangerous was no surprise - the forces involved in the collusions are simply much greater than what a boxer can muster in a strike. Furthermore, the padding and helmets are probably part of the issue as there is a certain feeling of invulnerability when wearing them. Lastly players have historically played when they really shouldn't because they deemed themselves too important to the success of their team. None of this is really all that new to be honest - this was only a 45 minute session. It's not really they're too important to the success of the team (though I'm sure that does factor in). NFL not being guaranteed drives that 100%. You still see it in other sports because long term, beign the guy who will sit out injuries means you get the injury prone/wuss tag that hurts you come contract time. But guys play through concussion and don't remember playing because teams will very happily cut them as they're being stretchered out of the stadium. But I def agree that the padding and helmets create a sense of invulnerability. That head hunting prick Merryweather is a perfect example of this. He's the king of leading with his head. You definitely don't see rugby players do that shit for good reason. I think MMA is 'safe' in the same way e-cigs are 'healthy' haha. But that's just nitpicking about word choice. Sounds like an interesting discussion though! | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Line play in football is just dangerous to the head. That's pretty much a blow to the head on every snap. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On March 20 2015 00:36 andrewlt wrote: I would imagine the holds and grapples play a part in it too. Fewer head hits on those. Line play in football is just dangerous to the head. That's pretty much a blow to the head on every snap. I like to imagine it as a car wreck every 40 seconds. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23879 Posts
On March 20 2015 02:55 QuanticHawk wrote: I'm kind of amazed that more players don't have neck and spine issues. Not just from idiots like Merryweather tackling like maniacs, but shit like a FB going head to head with a LB. Not necessarily like immediate trauma, but overtime damage from having your endure that kind of abuse I imagine neck/back injuries play on the pride. There probably are more issues (just like knees) but the players don't bring it up because it would make them look "less tough". | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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