EPTI don't think Randle is good. He has one "good" game, where he gained most of it on a few carries and then did nothing the rest of the game. Beyond that, the Cowboys' coaches aren't big fans of his.
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Jibba
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I don't think Randle is good. He has one "good" game, where he gained most of it on a few carries and then did nothing the rest of the game. Beyond that, the Cowboys' coaches aren't big fans of his. | ||
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AgentW
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If that's the case, take the best player in the deal and run like a bandit. The rest is a bunch of coin flip stuff. | ||
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Jibba
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giftdgecko
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AgentW
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giftdgecko
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GTR
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 07 2015 14:48 GTR wrote: Speaking of stud corners, Josh Norman from the Panthers is coming into his own. Top 10 CB? He makes amazing players and he makes really stupid plays. He's been elite so far by PFF's numbers, but still gotta see some consistency. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
Obviously everyone knew it when they signed/traded for him but I think most of us expected the offense to adjust. So far it hasn't adjusted and they're not lining him up outside. Am I wrong, given the outcome, for thinking this was the worst offseason move? Suh is at least outperforming the rest of the D-line in Miami. EDIT: I'm curious how PFF grades Max Unger right now. Seems like the Hawks could use some stability there. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
What's with so many NFL teams having terrible O-lines in general? The Seahawks and Broncos in particular would be absolutely screwed if they didn't have the defense carrying the show. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On October 07 2015 14:48 GTR wrote: Speaking of stud corners, Josh Norman from the Panthers is coming into his own. Top 10 CB? Highly recommend checking out his interview on the Russillo and Kannel podcast. He's crazy and very interesting. I guess he's pretty good at football too. | ||
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ragz_gt
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On October 07 2015 15:28 DannyJ wrote: He's basically totally useless right now with the overall state of the Seahawks line. Hard to tell anything about an offense when the line can't do anything. What's with so many NFL teams having terrible O-lines in general? The Seahawks and Broncos in particular would be absolutely screwed if they didn't have the defense carrying the show. That's the MO for hawks though. They've been getting by with Lynch being an absolutely beast and Wilson scrambling last few years but with a less effective Lynch it's falling apart. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32135 Posts
On October 07 2015 09:08 Jibba wrote: Edelman is a freak in PPR but Maclin is the only WR on his team, and Wright was a great PPR WR2 a couple years ago. But given that RB is the more scarce position I'll probably roll with it. I don't think Randle is good. He has one "good" game, where he gained most of it on a few carries and then did nothing the rest of the game. Beyond that, the Cowboys' coaches aren't big fans of his. Wright's 90 catch season was an abberation me thinks... he's on pace for less than 70 this year, and frankly, I think before long Green-Beckham starts eating into his targets, especially RZ looks. Wright is someone I'd happily trade away while his value is ok. I don't think he'll be better than a WR3 at the end. Maclin, I think he'll actually be around 80+ catches, but I think he'll lack the TDs. Edelman is never going to be a td monster, and considering where Maclin went in drafts he's a steal, but week to week Edelman probably has a higher floor and a higher chance of getting a TD. They're both similar possession recievers who lose RZ looks to stud TEs, but I think the Pats just throw way more, specifically to Edelman. Randle, honestly I'd be fine giving him away if I owned him. I don't think that highly of him either. Mediocre RB2. I feel Forsett falls into this same category too. Baltimore looks like a mess right now. Their play calling is all over the place. By simple virtue of having more touches on a weekly basis, I'd prefer Forsett. What you think of Mccoy and his situation is what should swing this deal. if he gets healthy soon, I think you easily win this since he can bell cow and get catches. If he continues to be hobbled, or comes back less than 100% with a bum hammy, way different story. | ||
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Ghostcom
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On October 07 2015 15:28 DannyJ wrote: He's basically totally useless right now with the overall state of the Seahawks line. Hard to tell anything about an offense when the line can't do anything. What's with so many NFL teams having terrible O-lines in general? The Seahawks and Broncos in particular would be absolutely screwed if they didn't have the defense carrying the show. ESPN had an interesting article on the dearth of good O-lines recently: http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/181904/nfls-o-line-epidemic-threatens-its-qb-star-system I think they might be flipping some cause-effect around, but I think the overall point of the article is actually pretty on point. | ||
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ragz_gt
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This has to be a joke right....? | ||
Teoita
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On October 07 2015 23:31 Ghostcom wrote: ESPN had an interesting article on the dearth of good O-lines recently: http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/181904/nfls-o-line-epidemic-threatens-its-qb-star-system I think they might be flipping some cause-effect around, but I think the overall point of the article is actually pretty on point. It's pretty ridicolous to blame the spread offense though (the article forgets that shotgun passing and zone running were a thing way before the spread was prevalent)...i think more than anything it's that pass rushers are better and faster than ever, and things like stunts and blitzes become complex and harder to stop every year; it's pretty much a defense's only way to stop an offense nowadays. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On October 08 2015 00:03 ragz_gt wrote: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/07/brees-named-nfc-offensive-player-of-the-week/ This has to be a joke right....? I don't find it surprising. He had a decent stat line and hit the 400 TD milestone. It's not like he had a lot of competition for it this week either. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 08 2015 01:07 Teoita wrote: It's pretty ridicolous to blame the spread offense though (the article forgets that shotgun passing and zone running were a thing way before the spread was prevalent)...i think more than anything it's that pass rushers are better and faster than ever, and things like stunts and blitzes become complex and harder to stop every year; it's pretty much a defense's only way to stop an offense nowadays. Also, O-line has traditionally been an outlier when it comes to the NFL. You can just ask guys like Mark Schlereth: Its always been the place you can put big guys who aren't very athletic to make them succeed. Its also traditionally been the "thinking mans" position in football with the highest average Wunderlic scores, but the CBA massively discourages keeping on mediocre veterans instead of just drafting 2-6th rounders for your O-line. Also, the shotgun is harder to block for, just straight up, you lose a lineman for the first second or so. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32135 Posts
On October 08 2015 01:07 Teoita wrote: It's pretty ridicolous to blame the spread offense though (the article forgets that shotgun passing and zone running were a thing way before the spread was prevalent)...i think more than anything it's that pass rushers are better and faster than ever, and things like stunts and blitzes become complex and harder to stop every year; it's pretty much a defense's only way to stop an offense nowadays. Those have been things for a while, but it's really only in the last 10 years or so that everyone began passing so damn much. Pass blocking is generally harder, and I think you're correct that pass rushers are better than ever, so even if the quality of the linemen didn't change at all I'd expect more pressure and sacks based on that alone. The spread offense as a whole is effective in college but generally produces limited players in the NFL unless they're joining a team that runs the spread frequently. Look how hard of a time spread qbs have going pro, most of them have to relearn how to take the damn snaps. It's usually all quick hit routes so WRs in those offenses don't have nearly as many routes as in an NFL playbook, so there's a big adjustment period there as well. | ||
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