If you're referring to the NSA, then the NSA pertains to mainly within US borders.
What the hell are you talking about? Have you not read any of the news concerning the US spying on European countries, particularly Germany? About wiretapping Merkel's personal phone?
Or are you so US-centric that you weren't even aware about the international outcry over NSA spying?
If you're referring to the NSA, then the NSA pertains to mainly within US borders.
What the shit are you talking about? Have you not read any of the news concerning the US spying on European countries, particularly Germany? About wiretapping Merkel's personal phone?
Or are you so US-centric that you weren't even aware about the international outcry over NSA spying?
Relax, no need to use foul language.
Yes, the NSA did wiretap on Angela Merckel's phone but 99% of the wiretapping were within US borders.
On July 30 2014 19:32 Zealously wrote: If memory serves, Samsung is one of the world's most corrupt companies. Further, what Huawei and Xiaomi are doing doesn't seem very different from what several other cellphone manufacturers did in the US. That others are doing the same doesn't mean that we should all up and trust these two companies, but looking to a company like Apple or Samsung and expecting a trustworthy company that will keep your mobile data private is also foolish.
The only bad thing I know about Samsung is what they did to JangBi T_T
On July 30 2014 19:32 Zealously wrote: If memory serves, Samsung is one of the world's most corrupt companies. Further, what Huawei and Xiaomi are doing doesn't seem very different from what several other cellphone manufacturers did in the US. That others are doing the same doesn't mean that we should all up and trust these two companies, but looking to a company like Apple or Samsung and expecting a trustworthy company that will keep your mobile data private is also foolish.
The only bad thing I know about Samsung is what they did to JangBi T_T
I wouldn't have bought the S3 if that had come to light earlier, god damnit Samsung
Why does everyone want to spy on me? China, the USA, my own country... I just don't get it. I'm not that interesting, and it's supposed to be against our civil rights (in two of those countries, at least).
Why have these rights if they're just going to get violated anyway?
On July 30 2014 22:15 goiflin wrote: Why does everyone want to spy on me? China, the USA, my own country... I just don't get it. I'm not that interesting, and it's supposed to be against our civil rights (in two of those countries, at least).
Why have these rights if they're just going to get violated anyway?
2001 Mister Bush, one of the worst president that humanity has known. In the name of some conservative shit, managed to fuck up the middle east even more, to impose spying on every citizen of his own country and even on allies. He gave every argument to ammoral countries like China or Russia to do the same things. You can even wonder how he got elected two times, y consuming better than thinking... God bless america!
And also I don t think people should get patriotic with companies like that (Apple is international not American anymore) but instead if they want to help their country, buy things that are produced in the country itself regardless of the company's country of origin.
On July 30 2014 19:15 Pr0wler wrote: So the choice is NSA or the Chinese communists? Pretty hard one.
It's easy, if you live in the Chinese sphere of influence you pick NSA spying on you, if you live in the NSA sphere of influence you pick the Chinese spying on you.
I am more sadden by the fact that OP is more concerned about which country is spying on who than spying itself as an issue.
These mass surveillance will only get worse and comes in many different forms and as technology improves, more of our information will get monitored / trackable.
On July 30 2014 19:32 Zealously wrote: If memory serves, Samsung is one of the world's most corrupt companies. Further, what Huawei and Xiaomi are doing doesn't seem very different from what several other cellphone manufacturers did in the US. That others are doing the same doesn't mean that we should all up and trust these two companies, but looking to a company like Apple or Samsung and expecting a trustworthy company that will keep your mobile data private is also foolish.
Corrupt? Yes, of course. But corruption applies to all big, successful companies.
Apple was also accused of poor working conditions at Foxconn. Apple and other smartphone companies are just as corrupt as Samsung.
No big, successful company on the face of this world is not corrupt. They had to get to their position by cheating one way or another. Steve Jobs was a corrupt person, but all of this is censored by the American mainstream media. If you don't believe that the biggest companies of today are products of corruption and cheating, then you have not been exposed to the reality of the business world.
But there's a difference between corruption and hacking/theft/espionage.
The point of this thread is to discuss hacking/theft/espionage. While corruption is also an issue, that's not the main point of this thread.
No we shouldn't trust Carrier Rootkit (which is not a mobile phone manufacturer). There are many civil and criminal lawsuits that have been launched against them:
My point is the industry is such a free for all money grab that we shouldn't trust anybody, and no-one should be under the illusion that their mobile data is in any way safe or private. Frankly if my data is being sent to someone else i wouldn't care whether it was the manufacturer of the phone or some third party developer, i would be equally as pissed off.
Sending personal/business/government data of American users to the Chinese Communist Party presents a huge security threat to the USA. This is the primary concern.
You have got to be kidding me.
How is this any different than the USA getting all this information unlawfully from all of its supposed allies?
If you're referring to the NSA, then the NSA pertains to mainly within US borders.
So chinese internet companies are doing for the chinese government what us-american internet companies are (wished to be) doing for the us-american government?
As written in the article : "Rumor: Xiaomi RedMi Note Accused Of Sending Personal Data To Chinese Servers"
We'd better spread this rumor fast so we can alert the consumer to buy products from the good companies (those where it's not a rumor but a fact that they send personal data to remote servers)