What the hell are you talking about? Have you not read any of the news concerning the US spying on European countries, particularly Germany? About wiretapping Merkel's personal phone?

Or are you so US-centric that you weren't even aware about the international outcry over NSA spying?

AutoEngineer

United States97 Posts

July 30 2014 11:56 GMT

#22

On July 30 2014 20:48 SixStrings wrote:

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What the shit are you talking about? Have you not read any of the news concerning the US spying on European countries, particularly Germany? About wiretapping Merkel's personal phone?

Or are you so US-centric that you weren't even aware about the international outcry over NSA spying?

Relax, no need to use foul language.

Yes, the NSA did wiretap on Angela Merckel's phone but 99% of the wiretapping were within US borders.

Ovid

United Kingdom948 Posts

July 30 2014 12:01 GMT

#23

I feel sorry for the poor bugger who has to sift through all the "lv u 2 babes" texts and the like before they find something worthwhile.

Pangpootata

1838 Posts

July 30 2014 12:06 GMT

#24

On July 30 2014 19:32 Zealously wrote:
If memory serves, Samsung is one of the world's most corrupt companies. Further, what Huawei and Xiaomi are doing doesn't seem very different from what several other cellphone manufacturers did in the US. That others are doing the same doesn't mean that we should all up and trust these two companies, but looking to a company like Apple or Samsung and expecting a trustworthy company that will keep your mobile data private is also foolish.

The only bad thing I know about Samsung is what they did to JangBi T_T

Zealously

East Gorteau22261 Posts

July 30 2014 12:07 GMT

#25

On July 30 2014 21:06 Pangpootata wrote:

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The only bad thing I know about Samsung is what they did to JangBi T_T

I wouldn't have bought the S3 if that had come to light earlier, god damnit Samsung

goiflin

Canada1218 Posts

July 30 2014 13:15 GMT

#26

Why does everyone want to spy on me? China, the USA, my own country... I just don't get it. I'm not that interesting, and it's supposed to be against our civil rights (in two of those countries, at least).

Why have these rights if they're just going to get violated anyway?

DannyJ

United States5110 Posts

July 30 2014 13:39 GMT

#27

In a choice between the NSA and China I'll take whichever phone has the biggest screen.

Acertos

France852 Posts

July 30 2014 13:46 GMT

#28

On July 30 2014 22:15 goiflin wrote:
Why does everyone want to spy on me? China, the USA, my own country... I just don't get it. I'm not that interesting, and it's supposed to be against our civil rights (in two of those countries, at least).

Why have these rights if they're just going to get violated anyway?

2001 Mister Bush, one of the worst president that humanity has known.
In the name of some conservative shit, managed to fuck up the middle east even more, to impose spying on every citizen of his own country and even on allies. He gave every argument to ammoral countries like China or Russia to do the same things.
You can even wonder how he got elected two times, y consuming better than thinking... God bless america!

And also I don t think people should get patriotic with companies like that (Apple is international not American anymore) but instead if they want to help their country, buy things that are produced in the country itself regardless of the company's country of origin.

r.Evo

Germany14080 Posts

July 30 2014 13:53 GMT

#29

On July 30 2014 19:15 Pr0wler wrote:
So the choice is NSA or the Chinese communists? Pretty hard one.

It's easy, if you live in the Chinese sphere of influence you pick NSA spying on you, if you live in the NSA sphere of influence you pick the Chinese spying on you.

...if only it was that easy. =P

ETisME

12686 Posts

July 30 2014 13:54 GMT

#30

I am more sadden by the fact that OP is more concerned about which country is spying on who than spying itself as an issue.

These mass surveillance will only get worse and comes in many different forms and as technology improves, more of our information will get monitored / trackable.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

July 30 2014 14:12 GMT

#31

On July 30 2014 20:36 Velr wrote:
Is there a TL/LD-Award for most ironic tread of the year? :D

this. This thread has got to be a joke lol

iFU.pauline

France1676 Posts

July 30 2014 14:15 GMT

#32

You can also choose not to have a cell phone that would cut it short.

oneofthem

Cayman Islands24199 Posts

July 30 2014 14:59 GMT

#33

nsa is far from china. you guys need to get some perspective.

Zealously

East Gorteau22261 Posts

July 30 2014 15:09 GMT

#34

On July 30 2014 23:59 oneofthem wrote:
nsa is far from china. you guys need to get some perspective.

Making a post does little. Show, don't tell.

lprk

Poland2249 Posts

July 30 2014 15:12 GMT

#35

On July 30 2014 23:59 oneofthem wrote:
nsa is far from china. you guys need to get some perspective.

Yeah, Chinese haven't started any war in over 30 years.

ne4aJIb

Russian Federation3209 Posts

July 30 2014 15:16 GMT

#36

happy americans and chinese have their own phones -_-

neptunusfisk

2286 Posts

July 30 2014 15:18 GMT

#37

On July 30 2014 19:40 AutoEngineer wrote:

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Corrupt? Yes, of course. But corruption applies to all big, successful companies.

Apple was also accused of poor working conditions at Foxconn. Apple and other smartphone companies are just as corrupt as Samsung.

No big, successful company on the face of this world is not corrupt. They had to get to their position by cheating one way or another. Steve Jobs was a corrupt person, but all of this is censored by the American mainstream media. If you don't believe that the biggest companies of today are products of corruption and cheating, then you have not been exposed to the reality of the business world.

But there's a difference between corruption and hacking/theft/espionage.

The point of this thread is to discuss hacking/theft/espionage. While corruption is also an issue, that's not the main point of this thread.

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If you're referring to the NSA, then the NSA pertains to mainly within US borders.

Lol right, NSA only american borders

Mafe

Germany5966 Posts

July 30 2014 15:19 GMT

#38

So chinese internet companies are doing for the chinese government what us-american internet companies are (wished to be) doing for the us-american government?

Roman

United States2595 Posts

July 30 2014 15:19 GMT

#39

On July 30 2014 23:59 oneofthem wrote:
nsa is far from china. you guys need to get some perspective.

Americans are bad at geography, we all know this; someone needed to point this out. Thanks

Diks

Belgium1880 Posts

July 30 2014 15:27 GMT

#40

As written in the article : "Rumor: Xiaomi RedMi Note Accused Of Sending Personal Data To Chinese Servers"

We'd better spread this rumor fast so we can alert the consumer to buy products from the good companies (those where it's not a rumor but a fact that they send personal data to remote servers)