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Nightshake
Profile Joined November 2010
France412 Posts
July 30 2014 15:29 GMT
#41
IMO people should stick to Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, HTC, etc... companies that can be trusted.


Not sure if serious or ironic.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 30 2014 15:50 GMT
#42
The internet is the berst/borst thing that ever happened to humanity.
TriO
Profile Joined July 2011
United States421 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 16:18:43
July 30 2014 16:17 GMT
#43
I'll stick to my beeper. Not surprised by the mindset of the op. Chinese are the bad guys Americans are the good guys watch out everyone!
My dream is to tear up your dream.
TheCzarOfAll
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States170 Posts
July 30 2014 17:53 GMT
#44
Luckily for me, I live in a concrete box with no potential for outside contact minus SC2, TL, and a small slit to send food through.
Yes.
vidium
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania222 Posts
July 30 2014 18:04 GMT
#45
As long as 99% of mobile phones are made in China, good luck choosing a brand over another. If you dont want your personal data to be stolen, get a dumbphone and use for its purpose...to talk.
You ever notice how no one returns to the barracks?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 30 2014 18:32 GMT
#46
hmm well, I think spying in general is a cause for concern and not just specific to a certain country etc...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
July 30 2014 18:55 GMT
#47
This thread is ironic but I'd rather send my data to the NSA than to a Chinese company where it may or may not be used for identity theft

That said we don't even know if the data on these phones is being used for identity theft, just that it's theoretically possible... and it's theoretically possible that the NSA could use my information for identity theft as well
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 19:15:00
July 30 2014 19:10 GMT
#48
>credit card theft
>HTPPS
>country block and other options presented for paranoids

>hacking
>smartphone
>I've seen this shit in Hollywood films, it means it's totaly legal".

>americans defending NSA
>come on, dude, it's my home country, they won't do any harm to me"'
yeah, this thread is golden.




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I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
July 30 2014 19:26 GMT
#49
On July 31 2014 04:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
>credit card theft
>HTPPS
>country block and other options presented for paranoids

>hacking
>smartphone
>I've seen this shit in Hollywood films, it means it's totaly legal".

>americans defending NSA
>come on, dude, it's my home country, they won't do any harm to me"'
yeah, this thread is golden.



>epic meme arrows
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 19:30:18
July 30 2014 19:29 GMT
#50
On July 30 2014 19:15 Pr0wler wrote:
So the choice is NSA or the Chinese communists ? Pretty hard one.


Welcome to "International Relations". Meh, we're just small players nothing in their game of thrones. Fuck em all.
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
July 30 2014 19:30 GMT
#51
Personally I'm a little conflicted about the issue. The information that we put through, it may or may not be stored and it may or may not be processed for screening. And disregarding the ethics, I think it is inevitable that at one point, it will be stored and it will be processed. But going back to the ethics, if you ever troubleshoot anything with your ISP, you'd quickly realise they can know whatever you are doing. My ISP at one point sent e-mails based on the contents of my download. Now this obviously isn't happening everywhere in the world, but for some of us it is already happening much closer. And is there really a breach of privacy? Hard to say, considering we are using their services, their bandwidth, and their systems.
RuhRoh is my herO
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 30 2014 19:35 GMT
#52
On July 30 2014 17:54 AutoEngineer wrote:
This is pretty big.

Huawei and now Xiaomi are sending user data to Chinese servers which are of course linked to the Chinese Communist Party, or even worse, hacking, identity theft, credit card theft, etc the list goes on. I also wouldn't trust any other Chinese companies like Lenovo.

Huawei and Xiaomi are rising as big players in the smartphone market. Huawei, for example, ranked 3rd in Q2 2014 smartphone shipments behind Samsung and Apple. And some Americans seem to have been buying their products (uh oh).

IMO people should stick to Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, HTC, etc... companies that can be trusted. Chinese companies can not be trusted (yet). It will take a long time, possibly decades, for Chinese companies to be free from their puppet strings organized by the Chinese government.

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/07/rumor-xiaomi-redmi-note-accused-sending-personal-data-chinese-servers.html
Show nested quote +
Rumor: Xiaomi RedMi Note Accused Of Sending Personal Data To Chinese Servers


http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/xiaomi-phones-covertly-send-user-data-to-china-report-23433.html
Show nested quote +
Xiaomi phones covertly send user data to China: report

I welcome the possibility to choose which foreign government is spying on me. For the time being I will remain with the US. I believe in long-term relationships.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
July 30 2014 20:44 GMT
#53
So I guess it is best to use a phone from a domestic company for business to prevent industrial espionage and use a phone produced in a non allied country as your personal phone to protect you from your own government... =D
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
July 30 2014 20:50 GMT
#54
On July 30 2014 20:48 Kipsate wrote:
NSA or China

Choices, choices.

Don't worry about it, you don't get a choice!
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 21:03:12
July 30 2014 20:54 GMT
#55
I should of bought a chinese phone instead of the LG G2 , although i like the phone . The Oppo find 7 , Xiaomi Mi3 , 4 and the One plus One are far better value for the money you spend then other overpriced phones and flagships .

Technology in China has caught up , and will probably surpass the competition in a couple of years . And if i have to choose i would rather have China spying on me then US/EU .
Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
July 30 2014 20:54 GMT
#56
On July 31 2014 00:12 lprk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 23:59 oneofthem wrote:
nsa is far from china. you guys need to get some perspective.

Yeah, Chinese haven't started any war in over 30 years.


Ummm, what war did they start 30 years ago?...........................
........
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
July 30 2014 21:08 GMT
#57
On July 31 2014 04:30 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
Personally I'm a little conflicted about the issue. The information that we put through, it may or may not be stored and it may or may not be processed for screening. And disregarding the ethics, I think it is inevitable that at one point, it will be stored and it will be processed. But going back to the ethics, if you ever troubleshoot anything with your ISP, you'd quickly realise they can know whatever you are doing. My ISP at one point sent e-mails based on the contents of my download. Now this obviously isn't happening everywhere in the world, but for some of us it is already happening much closer. And is there really a breach of privacy? Hard to say, considering we are using their services, their bandwidth, and their systems.


You're right. It's like how telephone companies and the postal service had complete unfettered access to our telephone conversations and mail and it was fine because we were using their services.

At least I think that's how it worked...
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
AutoEngineer
Profile Joined June 2014
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 08:05:12
July 31 2014 08:03 GMT
#58
On July 31 2014 00:29 Nightshake wrote:
Show nested quote +
IMO people should stick to Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, HTC, etc... companies that can be trusted.


Not sure if serious or ironic.


They're more trustworthy than Huawei or Lenovo.

At least the companies mentioned in the quote are not linked to the Chinese government.

Huawei and Lenovo smartphones present a security threat to a country.

On July 31 2014 05:50 SwatRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 20:48 Kipsate wrote:
NSA or China

Choices, choices.

Don't worry about it, you don't get a choice!


Yes you do.

If you choose to buy a Huawei or Xiaomi phone, you'll have both the NSA and the Chinese being able to access your personal info.

With the other phones like Apple, Samsung and LG, you'll only have the NSA being able to access mainly by wiretapping (not the same as identity theft/credit card theft etc).
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 09:05:14
July 31 2014 09:03 GMT
#59
How about I just buy the better mobile depending on my preferences, regardless which government gets my information?

Though if I had to choose, I would choose China, just to even the odds. Both are equally bad and if any one of those two parties gets too powerful over the other, it will not be pretty.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 31 2014 09:31 GMT
#60
On July 31 2014 17:03 AutoEngineer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 00:29 Nightshake wrote:
IMO people should stick to Apple, Samsung, LG, Motorola, HTC, etc... companies that can be trusted.


Not sure if serious or ironic.


They're more trustworthy than Huawei or Lenovo.

At least the companies mentioned in the quote are not linked to the Chinese government.

Huawei and Lenovo smartphones present a security threat to a country.

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:50 SwatRaven wrote:
On July 30 2014 20:48 Kipsate wrote:
NSA or China

Choices, choices.

Don't worry about it, you don't get a choice!


Yes you do.

If you choose to buy a Huawei or Xiaomi phone, you'll have both the NSA and the Chinese being able to access your personal info.

With the other phones like Apple, Samsung and LG, you'll only have the NSA being able to access mainly by wiretapping (not the same as identity theft/credit card theft etc).


And the fact that they 'only' spy on you makes them trustworthy? Keep in mind that this is a rumor while the NSA debacle is confirmed.


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