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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On July 30 2014 19:39 SixStrings wrote: You have got to be kidding me. How is this any different than the USA getting all this information unlawfully from all of its supposed allies? Agreed. People are making it a bigger deal than it needs to be. It's not ok, but it's been happening for a while, it seems to be drawing more attention because it's China. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
On August 04 2014 01:25 a_flayer wrote: Riiight... I'm getting an open source phone next, I guess. So Android? lol | ||
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sharky246
1197 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 03 2014 21:24 AutoEngineer wrote: Google and Facebook have user credit card information? That's news to me. The NSA does not use personal information for corporate or theft purposes. Wait... you never heard of google play? Which rock have you been living under... | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
No, an open source phone. I don't think the google software (nor the LG software - I have an LG phone) is open source. I can't remove either of them from my phone. Maybe if I jump through hoops I can remove the software, but I dont like hoops. I mean a fully open source phone where I determine which software is installed. | ||
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Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
Threadmaker just the same kind of puppet like those Chinese. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28911 Posts
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On August 04 2014 01:55 a_flayer wrote: No, an open source phone. I don't think the google software (nor the LG software - I have an LG phone) is open source. I can't remove either of them from my phone. Maybe if I jump through hoops I can remove the software, but I dont like hoops. I mean a fully open source phone where I determine which software is installed. No such thing exists at this time. Not while every phone's baseband processor continues to run closed-source and proprietary firmware. (At least as far as I'm aware) Then even after that, there's still the SIM card... | ||
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riyanme
Philippines940 Posts
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ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On July 31 2014 05:54 Evil_Monkey_ wrote: Ummm, what war did they start 30 years ago?........................... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chinese wars | ||
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Jinault
Ireland0 Posts
On August 04 2014 01:55 a_flayer wrote: No, an open source phone. I don't think the google software (nor the LG software - I have an LG phone) is open source. I can't remove either of them from my phone. Maybe if I jump through hoops I can remove the software, but I dont like hoops. I mean a fully open source phone where I determine which software is installed. That is currently impossible. All modern phone hardware requires closed source driver software. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On August 04 2014 02:58 Mr. Wiggles wrote: No such thing exists at this time. Not while every phone's baseband processor continues to run closed-source and proprietary firmware. (At least as far as I'm aware) Then even after that, there's still the SIM card... Yeah, device drivers are proprietary but you can get a phone with an entirely open source basecode by buying any decent android phone with a solid modding community. You just have to flash a custom rom and not install the google apps package, and then it won't send any information to anything you didn't personally improve. It's pretty damn impractical because you'd have no access to the play store but its quite possible if you're that concerned. | ||
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
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AutoEngineer
United States97 Posts
On August 03 2014 21:52 Simberto wrote: Google has a big app store for android stuff. They have shitloads of credit card informations. No idea about Facebook. And noone knows what the NSA does with your data since it's all secret. The point being made is that you are talking nonsense, and are for some reason trying to instill fear of chinese companies while very much proposing that Samsung and Apple are the best companies in history and everyone should buy their phones. It is not very obvious WHO pays you right now, but it is very obvious that posting this bullshit is your job and SOMEONE pays you, because noone else shares your ridiculous opinions. Yeah just because I'm against Chinese government's big business means I must work for either Apple or Samsung. I don't see how that makes any logical sense. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
What about the Ubuntu smartphone? Not that ubuntu has a perfectly white vest, but at least they're open source. | ||
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oBlade
United States6612 Posts
On August 04 2014 15:54 AutoEngineer wrote: Yeah just because I'm against Chinese government's big business means I must work for either Apple or Samsung. I don't see how that makes any logical sense. It's an inference to explain your unusual behavior about this subject. The people who explain why you're wrong, you ignore all their posts and only reply to the guys who have no patience to rebut you again so call you an astroturfer. Yet somehow on page 4 you have technical knowledge of manufacturing. It's fine if you have these fears about China or something but trying to make it look like they're rooted in fact is sophistry. On August 03 2014 21:24 AutoEngineer wrote: Google and Facebook have user credit card information? That's news to me. The NSA does not use personal information for corporate or theft purposes. You don't know what the NSA does because they are classified with more layers than a wedding cake. I know that you can file for instance a class action lawsuit against a company, or have an insider blow the whistle without political persecution. That doesn't work against the NSA. I'm not a telecom expert but I know a picture of a connection to an IP address in CLOSE_WAIT is not a fucking smoking gun of Red treachery. I mean some parts are just laughable... Chinese companies are run with "corporate greed" but for Apple and Samsung you think it's capitalist virtue. Then throw in "security threat" like the President is texting nuclear codes on a Redmi Note. Your audience here is too shrewd to fall for pre-war buzzwords like that. And identity theft here is an accusation you've made with no evidence at all. You just fucking invented it. The actual article claims (without evidence, and none of the articles cite the original Hong Kong guy where the proof would be) that text messages and photos were being logged. Not that your bank account was being stolen to finance accounts for a WoW gold farm or whatever else you can come up with that threatens US security. Like Drone explained earlier, the risks and rewards aren't balanced for this to make sense, especially as you have no evidence. Remember the guy a while ago who claimed Google AdSense was stealing from accounts? It doesn't add up. Financial institutions have fraud departments, they tend not to like it when people steal their money. Huge companies and petty bank fraud, these things aren't in proportion and with (again) a lack of any evidence, your skepticism should range from wild to rabid... unless you have a dog in this fight and are making random shit up because you don't like "communism" and "security threats." | ||
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
Just stop using smart phones! Winner is you. | ||
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Hazzyboy
Estonia555 Posts
Chinese do lie about their products but it's business and everyone else does - like OnePlus One lied about stereo speakers and same was done by Apple etc etc etc. I never use my credit card through smartphone anyway so it ain't an issue for me. I never used it on Samsung or HTC or Iphone - alway used my PC for banking, eBay and Amazon etc. | ||
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