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I found myself commenting on a discussion of the Book of Genesis that "Adam and Eve exist within the individual." Someone asked me to elaborate, so I elucidated. Enjoy the blog:
I will elucidate a bit on what I know to be true. I recommend grabbing a glass of water or what not to help you get through this lol.
First I will lay out a few definitions for your consideration. Let's focus on Adam, Eve, and the Serpent. Each are aspects or you might say modules (in a neuropsycholomythos sense of psychic anatomy) of the human psyche. The Tree of Life represents the way humans accumulate knowledge and it is in a non-abstract way, as the Tree of Life represents a real part of the anatomy (the *brain* in common parlance). We can move on from definitions after we recognize that the Garden of Eden is the whole person, including their physical self -- so, we possess a real thing that *is* the Tree of Life -- our "brains" built up through our personal history. The person in the condition of Adam & Eve in Eden, who were innocent of wants, goals, aims, is in that "childhood" condition we all experience in terms of locking on to firstborn ideas even if they are granted to us by others. The time of Eden especially exemplifies the time in our lives when we have no hard-fast rules *personally* established in ourselves. An example of a personally established hard-fast fact: The knowledge that if you are emerged in a certain community for long enough, the experience will accumulate and you will learn, then reflect, more of that community's behaviors and opinions -- A hard-fast rule comes in when a person decides to actively reinforce their belief system in their own consciousness (ie. purposed prayer in one's mental closet) when submerged in a community they know to be degenerate, and this is done in order to adapt to the hard-fast fact of learning and the automatic reflection of behavior & thought that we people have as living beings. Another hard-fast rule of adaptation would be to restrict contact with people who you know to be a bad influence because one can't help that it will rub off on them. In terms of Eden, the child, is always born ignorant of this (and many never iron out this truth and utilize it, therefore living more as tools of someone else's deliberate mind than someone really alive to nature's workings all around us).
The Serpent slithers into the mental landscape now and is revealed to a person at different ages and typically in a time post-pubescence. His symbol is widely known in mythology and has come to be understood by some as the unnatural-natural, the overly deliberate, have you ever seen a person who doesn't know how to act but stays calm? Consider Elliot Rodgers' Youtube channel. So-called Aspies or Autistics are strongly bound by a brilliant Serpent-Ego. They may move in spurts and stifly, like a snake, as their ego (serpent) has wound itself and coiled itself around their person, stifling their liberty to act freely & naturally. The Serpent "utilizes" or "promotes" the fear of reprisal as a control mechanism and we often see this manifested in what we call anxiety and its associated debilitating effects. The serpent is determined and rules and destroys in those who have not learned how to adapt or harness this module of the psyche. Notice that the Genesis serpent has a mind of its own, specifically when God is not present. And the moment that Eve let her respect for God leave her mind, her "God Programming" ("Don't eat from the Tree") be overwritten and she quickly fell to the Serpent's temptations.
Now, let us make a note of the paradigm I am presenting here because I know that a non-magical, holistic, psycholomythological interpretation of the human psychology is unheard of in mainstream circles.
1. The Garden of Eden is the Whole Person and includes all psychological and physical aspects of the individual Mind in terms of its basic, modular components.
2. The Serpent is the unnatural-natural. It is the Ego thought, which originates in the middling parts of the body, and behaves like a snowball rolling down a mountain if left unchecked, unharnessed, and left loose in an individual's psyche. The Serpent seeks to wind itself around, to cling, for he is fearful of death. The Serpent is completely invisible to many people although they spend their entire life looking through the lens which he paints and through which life takes the form of a fearful thing. The unchecked Serpent leads to anxiety, anger, and hatefulness toward all and any things. Please note that the wise and powerful have harnessed the serpent in their full-time lives! It is a part of the "rational man". It is not all bad! The serpent, this ego, however is dangerous when left unchecked because he exists in this world ignorant of the fourth dimension -- which is time -- and by way of example, he can be harnessed by purposeful planning and purposeful intention. The Serpent develops arrogance and misrules the individual (and those they touch) when he is not integrated into the mind's eye to be understood as a natural element of the Self.
3. God and his aspects (Christ, the Holy Ghost, and all-things) are within and without the Garden of Eden -- of the Whole Person.
4. Adam is the honest, all-embracing, loyal, and abiding love. He simply must follow Eve's lead because of the following.
Here the doozy and where things become more subtle and nuanced:
5. We have established the Garden of Eden as an amalgamation of all of its characters which therefore represents a single, Whole Person.
But **Eve** is the literal physical form of the body. And of the unconscious. The unconscious-conscious does not know its own vulnerability and listens to the Serpent long enough to be pressed into his Will (note that the Serpent convinces Eve simply by a superfluence of words, she gives no checks because the uncultivated unconscious-conscious knows not any better. Recall that in this discussion Eve represents a specific module of consciousness -- So, no Serpent is "in her" throwing up fear-checks (so there is no check:"Fear God/Fear Mistreated Nature" and no anxiety fear).
Please do not conflate Eve with the Whole Woman, Eve is an archetype of the vulnerability of the ignorant psyche.
Summary: The condition of ignorant "bliss" under the Lordship of another is existence in the Garden of Eden, problem being of course that the Serpent will find a way into this uncultivated Whole Person.
A person's psychology is made up of modules, typified by the characters in Genesis. Adam & Eve's expulsion in Genesis sets the stage for a complex psychological landscape resulting from the intermingling of these two aspects of the psychology -- Adam and Eve. The mind and nature's complexity is elucidated in the Old Testament (and reduced by or, if you like, compressed, by Jesus' testimony). The Serpent can be harnessed to deliver the good fruit (true deductions) of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, but left alone, he will continue to pull together inappropriate parts of consciousness & unconsciousness and bind them disadvantageously (ie. Binding fear to social interactions via anxious thought).
This is part of the story of Genesis.
Best Regards,
2primenumbers = infinite data storage
x-posted @ Liquidpoker
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This reminds me of the 'life of brian' prophets' scene.
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The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
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But what if the Tree of Life is memory, the Tree of Wisdom is information streaming in from the outside world via our senses, the Snake is the human mind making a conscious decision to take a bit of information that we find appetizing (apples) and convert it into memory.
The easiest way to retain raw information is to convert it into story-form. Adam and Eve are the protagonists of that story, well initially anyways, because that apple is such a large chunk of complex information that the whole world from it's early moments of Adam and Eve being cast out of paradise (the bliss of ignorance) up to the present day as we know it, is in fact the ongoing attempt to translate that raw information into something that can be ultimately added to the Tree of Life.
I like my bullshit better because yours isn't going anywhere no matter how pretentiously you push it.
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On June 04 2014 05:22 AllHailHydraGod wrote:
But what if the Tree of Life is memory, the Tree of Wisdom is information streaming in from the outside world via our senses, the Snake is the human mind making a conscious decision to take a bit of information that we find appetizing (apples) and convert it into memory.
The easiest way to retain raw information is to convert it into story-form. Adam and Eve are the protagonists of that story, well initially anyways, because that apple is such a large chunk of complex information that the whole world from it's early moments of Adam and Eve being cast out of paradise (the bliss of ignorance) up to the present day as we know it, is in fact the ongoing attempt to translate that raw information into something that can be ultimately added to the Tree of Life.
I like my bullshit better because yours isn't going anywhere no matter how pretentiously you push it.
Nice translation. Problem is that there is no Tree of Wisdom in any transliteration of the Book of Genesis which I have read. Not that such a fact excludes the Tree of Wisdom from serving usefully in a metaphor.
My writing is aimed toward people who are seeking a useful way to interpret their overdeveloped Ego into an understanding of their beast nature.
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On June 04 2014 04:30 Yorbon wrote:
This reminds me of the 'life of brian' prophets' scene.
I will take that as a compliment, thanks!
On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness.
Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself. 
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On June 04 2014 05:31 2primenumbers wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness. Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself.
It's so pathetically hyper-sensitive to respond in this manner to something like that. When you get really defensive like this, you should be careful that your emotions don't get in the way of your rational mind because your analogies don't follow logically whatsoever - and throwing out desperately defensive posts like this just makes your veneer of intelligence rather transparent.
On that note, what exactly do you call a 'brain' outside common parlance? Even neurosurgeons, neuroscientists, psychologists etc. all call it 'the brain'. Or is this the thinness of that veneer cropping up again?
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is it high school in here or is it just me
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"The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden history. The fruit that was forbidden was on the Tree of Knowledge. The subtext is, all the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions." - Frank Zappa, interview, Playboy, May 2, 1993
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On June 04 2014 05:31 2primenumbers wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 04:30 Yorbon wrote:
This reminds me of the 'life of brian' prophets' scene. I will take that as a compliment, thanks! Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness. Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself.
Lord of the Rings and the Bible are both works of fiction, just like Greek mythology. Physics tells us why they are works of fiction, a long with the other sciences. Not sure how he got burned, maybe you could elaborate?
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On June 04 2014 08:41 knOxStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 05:31 2primenumbers wrote:On June 04 2014 04:30 Yorbon wrote:
This reminds me of the 'life of brian' prophets' scene. I will take that as a compliment, thanks! On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness. Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself. Lord of the Rings and the Bible are both works of fiction, just like Greek mythology. Physics tells us why they are works of fiction, a long with the other sciences. Not sure how he got burned, maybe you could elaborate?
Science can tell us some events in the bible are highly improbable, but to say science proves the bible is a complete work of fiction is a pretty silly statement. You do realize almost all ancient historians agree Jesus existed right?
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On June 04 2014 09:01 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 08:41 knOxStarcraft wrote:On June 04 2014 05:31 2primenumbers wrote:On June 04 2014 04:30 Yorbon wrote:
This reminds me of the 'life of brian' prophets' scene. I will take that as a compliment, thanks! On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness. Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself. Lord of the Rings and the Bible are both works of fiction, just like Greek mythology. Physics tells us why they are works of fiction, a long with the other sciences. Not sure how he got burned, maybe you could elaborate? Science can tell us some events in the bible are highly improbable, but to say science proves the bible is a complete work of fiction is a pretty silly statement. You do realize almost all ancient historians agree Jesus existed right?
Are you trying to say that a story with real elements in it cannot be a work of fiction? If I write a story about a real person but attribute magical time-traveling unicorn-riding powers to that person, it's not a work of fiction?
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On June 04 2014 09:01 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 08:41 knOxStarcraft wrote:On June 04 2014 05:31 2primenumbers wrote:On June 04 2014 04:30 Yorbon wrote:
This reminds me of the 'life of brian' prophets' scene. I will take that as a compliment, thanks! On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness. Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself. Lord of the Rings and the Bible are both works of fiction, just like Greek mythology. Physics tells us why they are works of fiction, a long with the other sciences. Not sure how he got burned, maybe you could elaborate? Science can tell us some events in the bible are highly improbable, but to say science proves the bible is a complete work of fiction is a pretty silly statement. You do realize almost all ancient historians agree Jesus existed right?
I didn't say prove, proofs are for math. Things that exist in reality or existed in reality can be present in a fictional story can they not? Of course I'm not saying everything in the Bible is made up, like some of the people or some places. But things like coming back from the dead and floating into the sky are clearly things that couldn't have happened to Jesus, whether he existed or not.
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On June 04 2014 05:56 DefMatrixUltra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 05:31 2primenumbers wrote:On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness. Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself. It's so pathetically hyper-sensitive to respond in this manner to something like that. When you get really defensive like this, you should be careful that your emotions don't get in the way of your rational mind because your analogies don't follow logically whatsoever - and throwing out desperately defensive posts like this just makes your veneer of intelligence rather transparent. On that note, what exactly do you call a 'brain' outside common parlance? Even neurosurgeons, neuroscientists, psychologists etc. all call it 'the brain'. Or is this the thinness of that veneer cropping up again?
Clearly, you do not understand my statement that compares:
the throwing out of an allegory by the poster because "it isn't historical fact of how things transpired on Earth as is commonly known in the scientific literature"
with
"Statistical physics is meaningless because numbers are a fiction of human consciousness"
"the Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character."
I will add one more for you,
"You are saying that the field of Psychology is still-born because people made up the word depression"
The analogy is direct and extremely explicit (both statements are absurdities and rest on the idea of throwing out the baby with the bathwater). If you can't see it, go pick up an SAT book from pre-2005 when they still had analogies on there. I am sorry you have to find out this way but your education has completely left you without arms in the arena of the comprehension of metaphor, allegory, and the interpretation of symbols without getting tangled in them. Mine did too, until I took it into my own hands. Many people live their whole lives and die without any ability to see past the smokescreen of projection. You probably have thoughts going on in your head trying to fight me right now. That is your Serpent-ego tangling up your ability to clearly read my words here. Just relax & breathe. Notice, you probably won't even feel the need to reply if you do this.
The brain is the whole body, which is composed of many members, and all which effect thought and behavior. I find it to be more useful in self-conceptualization to consider the brain as the physical manifestation of the fleshy body and the Mind its product. You do not have to adopt this line of division, but it makes it tougher to consider the way that the digestive system directly effects cognition & behavior and other things outside the scope of this discussion if you do not consciously divide the brain from the mind.
Anyhow, see you all the next go-around.
Love & Gratefulness.
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is this the thread where we gloat about our knowledge and wisdom?
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On June 04 2014 09:15 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Are you trying to say that a story with real elements in it cannot be a work of fiction? If I write a story about a real person but attribute magical time-traveling unicorn-riding powers to that person, it's not a work of fiction?
Not at all, plenty of fictional stories are based on reality. In fact I'd venture to say most fiction is inspired by true events or real people/stories. Accepting Jesus existed is just a way to get a foot in the door.
On June 04 2014 09:17 knOxStarcraft wrote:
I didn't say prove, proofs are for math. Things that exist in reality or existed in reality can be present in a fictional story can they not? Of course I'm not saying everything in the Bible is made up, like some of the people or some places. But things like coming back from the dead and floating into the sky are clearly things that couldn't have happened to Jesus, whether he existed or not.
Ok, and yes I agree things in reality can be present in a fictional story. I read your first post as "prove." I guess when someone tells me something tells us why something is, it can be backed up with proof.
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On June 04 2014 10:40 2primenumbers wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 05:56 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On June 04 2014 05:31 2primenumbers wrote:On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness. Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself. It's so pathetically hyper-sensitive to respond in this manner to something like that. When you get really defensive like this, you should be careful that your emotions don't get in the way of your rational mind because your analogies don't follow logically whatsoever - and throwing out desperately defensive posts like this just makes your veneer of intelligence rather transparent. On that note, what exactly do you call a 'brain' outside common parlance? Even neurosurgeons, neuroscientists, psychologists etc. all call it 'the brain'. Or is this the thinness of that veneer cropping up again? Clearly, you do not understand my statement that compares: the throwing out of an allegory by the poster because "it isn't historical fact of how things transpired on Earth as is commonly known in the scientific literature"with "Statistical physics is meaningless because numbers are a fiction of human consciousness" "the Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character." I will add one more for you, "You are saying that the field of Psychology is still-born because people made up the word depression" The analogy is direct and extremely explicit (both statements are absurdities and rest on the idea of throwing out the baby with the bathwater). If you can't see it, go pick up an SAT book from pre-2005 when they still had analogies on there. I am sorry you have to find out this way but your education has completely left you without arms in the arena of the comprehension of metaphor, allegory, and the interpretation of symbols without getting tangled in them. Mine did too, until I took it into my own hands. Many people live their whole lives and die without any ability to see past the smokescreen of projection. You probably have thoughts going on in your head trying to fight me right now. That is your Serpent-ego tangling up your ability to clearly read my words here. Just relax & breathe. Notice, you probably won't even feel the need to reply if you do this.
In all seriousness, people of real intelligence are not dazzled by the kind of faux intellectualism present in your writing. I'm actually a physicist and a well-educated person so I am actually familiar with analogies. I'm also familiar with the basics of philosophy, psychology, and all the major sciences - and you should realize that people that have such a background can see right through everything you are writing. I didn't originally comment on any of your rambling in the OP, but it is transparently nonsensical. It's very colorful and has a captivating narrative due to its organization and style, and it wouldn't surprise me if you were well-read in terms of literature or were an English major yourself - but as far as real meaning and impact it's just fluff. There's nothing recognizable as philosophy or psychology or any kind of scientific or otherwise meaningful intellectual pursuit other than artistry. Speaking of which, I'm pretty certain that you won't find any references to Serpent-egos in a psychology text.
And no, your analogy does not follow logically. The symbols in physics are an explicit representation of actual real-life phenomena. They are placeholders for explicit phenomenon, base elements of a language. They are not fictional in any sense, any more than the letters I'm using to relay information to you are fictional. Particularly in statistical mechanics, physicists often choose to forego the symbolic language and talk about the concepts in English - because it's one of the few fields that actually translates pretty well.
Your point that allegory retains its validity even if the source isn't a scientific or historical document is so achingly obvious it need not even be mentioned. Or on the other hand you could write 300 words on it in a tiresome pseudo-intellectual style. And the poster you first responded to was not questioning the allegorical merit of your ramblings, he was expressing his distaste at the overused subject matter.
I don't even know why I'm writing this post. You seem like you are hooked on some kind of crazy Illuminati-level way of thinking and are basically just a total wacko. I hope you are young (<20) so you can grow out of this.
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On June 04 2014 13:00 DefMatrixUltra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 10:40 2primenumbers wrote:On June 04 2014 05:56 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On June 04 2014 05:31 2primenumbers wrote:On June 04 2014 05:21 vOdToasT wrote:
The greek mythology claims that Zeus lives on the highest mountain in Greece. When we see that he doesn't, we conclude that the greek mythology isn't true.
The bible claims that all humans came from one man and one woman, who were created from clay. When we see that humans didn't, we get this.
You are basically saying that you take Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character. And that all statistical theories in physics are meaningless drivel because the symbols of numbers is a fiction of the human consciousness. Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself. It's so pathetically hyper-sensitive to respond in this manner to something like that. When you get really defensive like this, you should be careful that your emotions don't get in the way of your rational mind because your analogies don't follow logically whatsoever - and throwing out desperately defensive posts like this just makes your veneer of intelligence rather transparent. On that note, what exactly do you call a 'brain' outside common parlance? Even neurosurgeons, neuroscientists, psychologists etc. all call it 'the brain'. Or is this the thinness of that veneer cropping up again? Clearly, you do not understand my statement that compares: the throwing out of an allegory by the poster because "it isn't historical fact of how things transpired on Earth as is commonly known in the scientific literature"with "Statistical physics is meaningless because numbers are a fiction of human consciousness" "the Lord of the Rings to be meaningless drivel because Gandalf is not a real character." I will add one more for you, "You are saying that the field of Psychology is still-born because people made up the word depression" The analogy is direct and extremely explicit (both statements are absurdities and rest on the idea of throwing out the baby with the bathwater). If you can't see it, go pick up an SAT book from pre-2005 when they still had analogies on there. I am sorry you have to find out this way but your education has completely left you without arms in the arena of the comprehension of metaphor, allegory, and the interpretation of symbols without getting tangled in them. Mine did too, until I took it into my own hands. Many people live their whole lives and die without any ability to see past the smokescreen of projection. You probably have thoughts going on in your head trying to fight me right now. That is your Serpent-ego tangling up your ability to clearly read my words here. Just relax & breathe. Notice, you probably won't even feel the need to reply if you do this. In all seriousness, people of real intelligence are not dazzled by the kind of faux intellectualism present in your writing. I'm actually a physicist and a well-educated person so I am actually familiar with analogies. I'm also familiar with the basics of philosophy, psychology, and all the major sciences - and you should realize that people that have such a background can see right through everything you are writing. I didn't originally comment on any of your rambling in the OP, but it is transparently nonsensical. It's very colorful and has a captivating narrative due to its organization and style, and it wouldn't surprise me if you were well-read in terms of literature or were an English major yourself - but as far as real meaning and impact it's just fluff. There's nothing recognizable as philosophy or psychology or any kind of scientific or otherwise meaningful intellectual pursuit other than artistry. Speaking of which, I'm pretty certain that you won't find any references to Serpent-egos in a psychology text. And no, your analogy does not follow logically. The symbols in physics are an explicit representation of actual real-life phenomena. They are placeholders for explicit phenomenon, base elements of a language. They are not fictional in any sense, any more than the letters I'm using to relay information to you are fictional. Particularly in statistical mechanics, physicists often choose to forego the symbolic language and talk about the concepts in English - because it's one of the few fields that actually translates pretty well. Your point that allegory retains its validity even if the source isn't a scientific or historical document is so achingly obvious it need not even be mentioned. Or on the other hand you could write 300 words on it in a tiresome pseudo-intellectual style. And the poster you first responded to was not questioning the allegorical merit of your ramblings, he was expressing his distaste at the overused subject matter. I don't even know why I'm writing this post. You seem like you are hooked on some kind of crazy Illuminati-level way of thinking and are basically just a total wacko. I hope you are young (<20) so you can grow out of this.
This is where the curtain drops and all of the onlookers start masturbating especially vigorously.
But seriously, good job. I know one when I see it.
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I skimmed through a lot of pretentious words and am most in awe of "unnatural-natural"
........ and then I saw this from the same guy
Ouch! did you just get burned? Don't worry, it was just you touching yourself.
Well you've sure got off the stage in no time hahaha.
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Psycholomythological isn't a word I have ever heard before, nor can I find it on google. If google doesn't comprehend it, it does not exist, therefore your entire post is void.
Firstly, you're assuming that the book of Genesis is written figuratively. Then you assume that the first couple of chapters are speaking about the human as a whole. Both of these are substantial leaps in logic to make, and would require some explaining before I could even understand where you're coming from.
Then there's the problem of your entire post making next to no sense at all, even if those assumptions do in fact have some logical basis.
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I give this thread a 0.3 out of 7 on the MolkeWarding Intellectual Scale.
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Wouldn't you rather read The Brothers Karamazov or Lord of the Flies?
On a side note, I had a Bible breakdown once.
+ Show Spoiler +I told it to give Zen a try.
It committed suicide by burning.
*Ba-dum tshh*
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On June 04 2014 15:12 Birdie wrote:
Psycholomythological isn't a word I have ever heard before, nor can I find it on google. If google doesn't comprehend it, it does not exist, therefore your entire post is void.
Firstly, you're assuming that the book of Genesis is written figuratively. Then you assume that the first couple of chapters are speaking about the human as a whole. Both of these are substantial leaps in logic to make, and would require some explaining before I could even understand where you're coming from.
Then there's the problem of your entire post making next to no sense at all, even if those assumptions do in fact have some logical basis.
LOL I missed that one.
On the contrary, google does have an entry:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AaH78tp.png)
hahahaha
Seriously, A+ on your creativity OP. I believe that we all have to appreciate the amount of creativity it takes to come up with that.
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Sorry but we don't allow religion threads on TL.
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