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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
sorry if im make no sense since finnish media havent covered this very well | ||
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:13 zezamer wrote: i havent followed the case that much lately but arent the protesters trying to make the democratically chosen president to step down by threatening with violence ? hard to decide on whose side i should be on this one. sorry if im make no sense since finnish media havent covered this very well Don't think that is a very accurate interpretation of the events to say the least. You can read about the events on wikipedia. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6342 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:16 Crushinator wrote: Don't think that is a very accurate interpretation of the events to say the least. You can read about the events on wikipedia. It's more accurate than you think. In the end one side is funded by one foreign interest, the other side is funded by another foreign interest. Meanwhile Ukraine's economy has taken a huge blow because of the unrest caused by the protests, nobody wins. On January 26 2014 05:02 Cheerio wrote: I don't think anything less than preliminary Presidential and Parliament elections is going to work. And I don't think people will leave until the elections conclude in their favor. A lot of people view Yanukovich regime as terrorists who totally usurped power in the country, there can be no negotiations with the terrorists. "Democracy" | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:25 zeo wrote: It's more accurate than you think. In the end one side is funded by one foreign interest, the other side is funded by another foreign interest. Meanwhile Ukraine's economy has taken a huge blow because of the unrest caused by the protests, nobody wins. No, it is not. These are dissilussioned people who were lied to by their democratically chosen president. And they decided to take matters into their hands. EDIT: It appears opposition rejected the offer. That was the only good decision they could make there. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:13 zezamer wrote: i havent followed the case that much lately but arent the protesters trying to make the democratically chosen president to step down by threatening with violence ? hard to decide on whose side i should be on this one. sorry if im make no sense since finnish media havent covered this very well ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/c23WsUc.jpg) This is the governments quality police, so now you can figure out how awesome their democratically chosen president is. Edit: Not to forget this guy actually went to prison two times for robbery and assault and was charged with fraud and falsification of documents several times. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
![[image loading]](http://europeanmediacentre.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/nationalist-pepper-sprays-police-kiev.jpg?w=487) ![[image loading]](http://europeanmediacentre.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/nationalist-with-gun-in-kiev-riots.jpg?w=487) And these people are somehow better ? =/ I cant really understand this thing because in not ukrainian etc so I just hope this doesnt lead into some kind of civil war | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22352 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:37 zezamer wrote: <Snip> And these people are somehow better ? =/ I cant really understand this thing because in not ukrainian etc so I just hope this doesnt lead into some kind of civil war Who knew massive civil unrest can get messy... Yes he might be a democratic chosen president but these forms off protest are just another way in which the people have power over the government. And like it or not but the power to protest and demand elections is vital in democracies. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:37 zezamer wrote: This photo is not even from the current events, people are dressed like it's summer-time. Nice job. | ||
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:37 zezamer wrote: And these people are somehow better ? =/ I cant really understand this thing because in not ukrainian etc so I just hope this doesnt lead into some kind of civil war The government forces are making it impossible to protest and fight corruption peacefully by passing a series of ridiculous anti-protest laws. Any protester is a criminal because they made them criminals, I can understand that many feel that violent resistance is an option now, because there isn't very much else left. | ||
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Saumure
France404 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6274 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:25 zeo wrote: It's more accurate than you think. In the end one side is funded by one foreign interest, the other side is funded by another foreign interest. Meanwhile Ukraine's economy has taken a huge blow because of the unrest caused by the protests, nobody wins. "Democracy" Being democratically elected doesn't give you the right to trample on the rights of the minority and pass all the laws you want. The right to protest is vital in any democracy and he doesn't respect it. | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
And people should also blame themselves for voting for them in the first place. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22352 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:32 Holy_AT wrote: If this was a main movement of the populous they should protest peacefully, because they cant throw everyone in prison. And people should also blame themselves for voting for them in the first place. Its natural that protests to turn violent when they are ignored/declared illegal. Its called human nature. | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:36 Gorsameth wrote: Its natural that protests to turn violent when they are ignored/declared illegal. Its called human nature. Like dahh, its also human nature to protest peacefully. There are numerous examples and its no justification in any way. | ||
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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