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onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria905 Posts
March 02 2013 00:28 GMT
#401
I hope we hear an official announcement soon! Such shitty news though.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 02 2013 00:30 GMT
#402
On March 02 2013 09:19 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 09:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 02 2013 09:15 Ry2D2 wrote:
damn shame. This hurts eSports too wtf how inconsiderate. They ought to at least host the event and make their profit, however marginal it may be.


What profit?

The profit outsiders think occurs


That implies they think
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
March 02 2013 00:36 GMT
#403
On March 02 2013 09:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 09:19 Zenbrez wrote:
On March 02 2013 09:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 02 2013 09:15 Ry2D2 wrote:
damn shame. This hurts eSports too wtf how inconsiderate. They ought to at least host the event and make their profit, however marginal it may be.


What profit?

The profit outsiders think occurs


That implies they think

This is internets, thinking has no place

so sad
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Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
March 02 2013 00:36 GMT
#404
On March 02 2013 09:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 09:19 Zenbrez wrote:
On March 02 2013 09:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 02 2013 09:15 Ry2D2 wrote:
damn shame. This hurts eSports too wtf how inconsiderate. They ought to at least host the event and make their profit, however marginal it may be.


What profit?

The profit outsiders think occurs


That implies they think


Nah, they just like to get intelligent posters like Anomaly banned.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21593 Posts
March 02 2013 00:40 GMT
#405
This was posted in the LoL thread but it impacts Sc2 aswell so just reposting it here.

On March 02 2013 07:41 nojitosunrise wrote:
So..redbeard just about confirms that IPL6 is canceled. Riot might host a viewing party in vegas and is planning on running a make up tournament for the challenger tier times that qualified for IPL6

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/19h14k/for_who_are_stuck_with_nonrefundable_flight/c8o25a6

Show nested quote +
We've been thinking about this as well, it's a great idea.
We are looking into possibly renting out some space at the Cosmo and throwing a viewing party for all of our awesome fans to watch the LCS games that will now be played at our studio in LA. Details TBC shortly.
By the way, we will also be doing a makeup tournament for the challenger teams that qualified for IPL 6, and hosting at least some of the matches at the LCS studio a few weeks later.

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Ded808
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia116 Posts
March 02 2013 00:48 GMT
#406
I'm not sure if i'm missing something here. So IPL cancels their event most likely due to the event being scheduled to make a loss. I wonder if it would be better for IGN in the long run to absorb the loss of the IPL event, in order to keep their brand more reputable. I can't imagine everyone involved with IPL is going to look favourably upon IGN. There are also outsiders that are not attending the event, who will hear of this news through some medium and may possibly reduce their opinion of IGN as a brand as well.

I guess after the parent company of IGN has done all their calculations with all the already sunk costs and reduced brand strength that they still see it as a cheaper business decision at the end of the day.
scandolouskt
Profile Joined March 2013
5 Posts
March 02 2013 01:03 GMT
#407
didn't ign staff get hit with layoffs too?

pretty sure ign doesn't have any say in this.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 02 2013 01:26 GMT
#408
man over 24 hours and no news?
crazy!
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plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
March 02 2013 01:29 GMT
#409
You know, something doesn't sit right with me here.

Where are the rumors coming from? IGN isn't saying anything, so it's not confirmed by them. In the meantime, MLG is trying a PR move to siphon business from IGN. Also, community profiles who have been known to work with competitors of IPL are pushing up on IPL's death. Community profiles are indirectly and directly urging people to change their reservations.

Maybe it's just my paranoia going off, but if this was just an attempt at killing IPL to reduce competitors, I'm guessing it's already done quite a lot of damage - both to IGNs name and the IPL brand, as well as potential viewership, venue ticket sales and competitor cancellations.

Of course, these are long-standing sources in the community, so them doing something like that for their own advancement is unimaginable. That said, however - as long as IGN doesn't reveal any news, remember that all the other noise are just rumors.
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Xandaren
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States93 Posts
March 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#410
I can't believe that IPL hasn't said anything. I mean its understandable they're not able to release all info but I haven't seen any comments from their social media even acknowledging this "reported news." I hope they're about to finalize a deal that can allow IPL6 to happen but the longer the public sits in the dark, the more IPL6 will inevitably flop just from public views.
Just chill man.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
March 02 2013 01:35 GMT
#411
On March 02 2013 10:29 plated.rawr wrote:
You know, something doesn't sit right with me here.

Where are the rumors coming from? IGN isn't saying anything, so it's not confirmed by them. In the meantime, MLG is trying a PR move to siphon business from IGN. Also, community profiles who have been known to work with competitors of IPL are pushing up on IPL's death. Community profiles are indirectly and directly urging people to change their reservations.

Maybe it's just my paranoia going off, but if this was just an attempt at killing IPL to reduce competitors, I'm guessing it's already done quite a lot of damage - both to IGNs name and the IPL brand, as well as potential viewership, venue ticket sales and competitor cancellations.

Of course, these are long-standing sources in the community, so them doing something like that for their own advancement is unimaginable. That said, however - as long as IGN doesn't reveal any news, remember that all the other noise are just rumors.

If they were just rumors, would you think for just one second that IGN would not immediately come out and say "It's all bullshit, IPL is happening!"? Why isn't IPL vehemently denying these claims if there's even a tiny doubt that they might be completely untrue?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 01:41:38
March 02 2013 01:40 GMT
#412
On March 02 2013 10:29 plated.rawr wrote:
You know, something doesn't sit right with me here.

Where are the rumors coming from? IGN isn't saying anything, so it's not confirmed by them. In the meantime, MLG is trying a PR move to siphon business from IGN. Also, community profiles who have been known to work with competitors of IPL are pushing up on IPL's death. Community profiles are indirectly and directly urging people to change their reservations.

Maybe it's just my paranoia going off, but if this was just an attempt at killing IPL to reduce competitors, I'm guessing it's already done quite a lot of damage - both to IGNs name and the IPL brand, as well as potential viewership, venue ticket sales and competitor cancellations.

Of course, these are long-standing sources in the community, so them doing something like that for their own advancement is unimaginable. That said, however - as long as IGN doesn't reveal any news, remember that all the other noise are just rumors.

yeah and these rumors have no truth to them and IPL is just letting everyone say all this because...? If it wasn't true, IPL would have come out yesterday and assured everyone the event is still happening.

And if you read Slasher's article on GameSpot, you will find the sources.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ign-cancels-ipl6-esports-tournament-6404672

Sponsors of the IGN ProLeague event have told GameSpot the products they sent over for sponsorship are being returned to them. Korean-based league OnGameNet said yesterday that the IPL6 League of Legends Korean qualifiers have been canceled due to change in management policies and financial difficulties.


but yeah, this is all MLG just trying to kill off IPL...
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Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
March 02 2013 01:43 GMT
#413
On March 02 2013 10:35 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 10:29 plated.rawr wrote:
You know, something doesn't sit right with me here.

Where are the rumors coming from? IGN isn't saying anything, so it's not confirmed by them. In the meantime, MLG is trying a PR move to siphon business from IGN. Also, community profiles who have been known to work with competitors of IPL are pushing up on IPL's death. Community profiles are indirectly and directly urging people to change their reservations.

Maybe it's just my paranoia going off, but if this was just an attempt at killing IPL to reduce competitors, I'm guessing it's already done quite a lot of damage - both to IGNs name and the IPL brand, as well as potential viewership, venue ticket sales and competitor cancellations.

Of course, these are long-standing sources in the community, so them doing something like that for their own advancement is unimaginable. That said, however - as long as IGN doesn't reveal any news, remember that all the other noise are just rumors.

If they were just rumors, would you think for just one second that IGN would not immediately come out and say "It's all bullshit, IPL is happening!"? Why isn't IPL vehemently denying these claims if there's even a tiny doubt that they might be completely untrue?

I have to agree... The fact they haven't said anything yet completely confirms to me that there will be no IPL6 (or IGN doesn't know if there will be). I'm from Arizona, so it sucks we're losing the only SC2 event that's anywhere close to us
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
March 02 2013 02:32 GMT
#414
On March 02 2013 01:24 aike wrote:
Starcraft 2: $6,865,805.70 in prize money over 696 tournaments.

League of Legends: $4,186,941.01 in prize money over 80 tournaments, with $1,970,000.00 (47%!) of that from Riot's Season 2 finals.

Pretty interesting... most of that league prize money is from Riot, while almost none of the SC2 money is from Blizzard. I'd say SC2 is pretty healthy, and not dying


I just thought this post went unaddressed, I think its very hypocritical for Blizzard to act like they are about eSports and then add nothing too it. What the heck Blizz, can't ya at least chip in some prize money, we have companies dyin here and so couldn't you all chip in a couple million? How about a The International for SC2 with a million prize pool sponsored by you guys? That would be huge hype!

This sounds bad... but honestly I am happy some are going under, I love watching games but the amount was crazy, also I felt confused about what was happening, and tournaments are horrible at explaining the meaning of their games to people.

My dream that IGN going under is now we can institute a regular season and playoff system run by MLG, GSL and NASL and Dreamhack. MLG would be a invitational open like USOpen in Golf, GSL for Koreans, NASL NA players only, Dreamhack for European Players. At the end is the top 4 from each making a Sweet 16 players at Blizzard Cup for 1,000,000 dollars.

Also Iron Squid would be in there somewhere, more like a All-Star game in NBA where the best come around, extremely comedic, great music, fun times not related to regular season and purely for fun competition.

This is purely selfish but I would love a 2v2 or FFA league too those are hilarious.

If we organized SC2 people would love to follow it like a sport. Also if they made a NA league people would start to support the NA scene a lot more. Please think about it NASL.SC2 viewer numbers would grow because it would stop being a thing you do to kill time and be more like a pasttime, following your best NA players to Blizzard Cup would be a real thing people do and people would love the first chance to see Korea vs. Euro and their would be some good hype as they haven't played each other for a long year of HotS rather than every week.
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Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 02 2013 02:42 GMT
#415
On March 02 2013 11:32 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 01:24 aike wrote:
Starcraft 2: $6,865,805.70 in prize money over 696 tournaments.

League of Legends: $4,186,941.01 in prize money over 80 tournaments, with $1,970,000.00 (47%!) of that from Riot's Season 2 finals.

Pretty interesting... most of that league prize money is from Riot, while almost none of the SC2 money is from Blizzard. I'd say SC2 is pretty healthy, and not dying


I just thought this post went unaddressed, I think its very hypocritical for Blizzard to act like they are about eSports and then add nothing too it. What the heck Blizz, can't ya at least chip in some prize money, we have companies dyin here and so couldn't you all chip in a couple million? How about a The International for SC2 with a million prize pool sponsored by you guys? That would be huge hype!

This sounds bad... but honestly I am happy some are going under, I love watching games but the amount was crazy, also I felt confused about what was happening, and tournaments are horrible at explaining the meaning of their games to people.

My dream that IGN going under is now we can institute a regular season and playoff system run by MLG, GSL and NASL and Dreamhack. MLG would be a invitational open like USOpen in Golf, GSL for Koreans, NASL NA players only, Dreamhack for European Players. At the end is the top 4 from each making a Sweet 16 players at Blizzard Cup for 1,000,000 dollars.

Also Iron Squid would be in there somewhere, more like a All-Star game in NBA where the best come around, extremely comedic, great music, fun times not related to regular season and purely for fun competition.

This is purely selfish but I would love a 2v2 or FFA league too those are hilarious.

If we organized SC2 people would love to follow it like a sport. Also if they made a NA league people would start to support the NA scene a lot more. Please think about it NASL.SC2 viewer numbers would grow because it would stop being a thing you do to kill time and be more like a pasttime, following your best NA players to Blizzard Cup would be a real thing people do and people would love the first chance to see Korea vs. Euro and their would be some good hype as they haven't played each other for a long year of HotS rather than every week.

Are you being sarcastic or did you miss the WCS?
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
March 02 2013 02:54 GMT
#416
Unfortunately, if this continues for too long, without proper official word, IGN, might, if not already, be forced to cancel the event due to cancellations, teams players and spectators pulling etc.

It wouldn't be the first time a company went under due to a single peice of untrue press directing affecting sales and business.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 02 2013 03:03 GMT
#417
On March 02 2013 09:40 Gorsameth wrote:
This was posted in the LoL thread but it impacts Sc2 aswell so just reposting it here.

Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 07:41 nojitosunrise wrote:
So..redbeard just about confirms that IPL6 is canceled. Riot might host a viewing party in vegas and is planning on running a make up tournament for the challenger tier times that qualified for IPL6

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/19h14k/for_who_are_stuck_with_nonrefundable_flight/c8o25a6

We've been thinking about this as well, it's a great idea.
We are looking into possibly renting out some space at the Cosmo and throwing a viewing party for all of our awesome fans to watch the LCS games that will now be played at our studio in LA. Details TBC shortly.
By the way, we will also be doing a makeup tournament for the challenger teams that qualified for IPL 6, and hosting at least some of the matches at the LCS studio a few weeks later.



This is pretty much confirmation and the final nail in the coffin. Riot just stated the lcs games will now be played at their studio. Riot would know if ipl 6 was canceled or not, so they confirmed it without explicitly stating ipl 6 is canceled as they're leaving that up to IPL to announce themselves I suppose.
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Albinoswordfish
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
March 02 2013 03:19 GMT
#418
This looks pretty grim for IPL6 happening. This is gonna really take a hit on IPLs worth if a major event ends up being canceled at the last minute. Hopefully IPL doesn't have to shutdown altogether and only has to scale down. The fact that they're being shopped around means the owners of IGN/IPL definitely don't want this event to happen. I'm not sure if this is best way to go about it though, since your trying to sell IPL forcing the organization to cancel a major event without much notice will only plunge IPL into a hole that it might not recover from.

I really hope IPL isn't dead.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
March 02 2013 03:46 GMT
#419
On March 02 2013 12:19 Albinoswordfish wrote:
This looks pretty grim for IPL6 happening. This is gonna really take a hit on IPLs worth if a major event ends up being canceled at the last minute. Hopefully IPL doesn't have to shutdown altogether and only has to scale down. The fact that they're being shopped around means the owners of IGN/IPL definitely don't want this event to happen. I'm not sure if this is best way to go about it though, since your trying to sell IPL forcing the organization to cancel a major event without much notice will only plunge IPL into a hole that it might not recover from.

I really hope IPL isn't dead.


If they do end up cancelling I'd say IPL is pretty much dead. I can't see any organizations being very keen on sending their players to an tournament organizer who has completely cancelled an event with such short notice. At best organizations would be very hesitant of sending their players, at worst they would straight up boycott them. Lot of time, money and effort has probably gone into the planning of the event for the teams, all of which would go down the drain with very short notice.

Same goes for viewers. There's probably quite few people who already set plans for the event. Booked flights, hotels, rescheduled things and all that sort of stuff that goes into attending an event. All of it for nothing, some of it probably not refundable.

So if they do end up cancelling they can hardly expect any support from teams or viewers if they choose to organize another event. I'd be very surprised if the IPL management thought anything else. I'm pretty sure they realize that cancelling the event at this point is the death of IPL, regardless of whether they run another event or not.
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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 03:51:34
March 02 2013 03:50 GMT
#420
Really off-topic but, jesus christ, the comments on that gamespot article are almost youtube-level.

Im not really familiar with IPL thing but if the previous ones were not profittable or just broke even why do they still hold it in Vegas?
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