I've watched the video twice now and I don't see that he's hitting two women, he hits one guy (the dude who jumps over the counter) and a woman and then there's the blonde who shouts "stop" all the time.

Did he proceed hitting the blonde, too? Otherwise I don't see where the second woman is supposed to be.

Going4Gold

United Kingdom67 Posts

December 13 2012 14:04 GMT

#102

^^I think the thing that jumped over the counter first was supposed to be a women.

Lysanias

Netherlands8351 Posts

December 13 2012 14:04 GMT

#103

I would not have gone for that metal pipe, but i would defend myself with my fists and legs if they ever made it over that counter.
One person that gets hit by another for what ever reason has the right to hit back in my book, no matter the gender.

Extreme on both sides, i just hope both learned from that, meh i doubt it.

llSpektrll

United States77 Posts

December 13 2012 14:04 GMT

#104

The only problem is that he didnt finish them off. The world is a better place without retarded savages like this. Their vote counts. Mcdonalds kinda had to fire him from a pr stand point but I doubt they disagreed with his retaliation. It's really satisfying to hear that he did not have any charges pressed against him, though I assume this event will still make it tough for him to find a new job, lol. "wait...you're that guy who beat the shit out of those 2 women at the Mcdonalds, right?" "uh...yeh, that was me" "We'll make a decision by next week and, uh...let you know"

BlitzerSC

Italy8800 Posts

December 13 2012 14:04 GMT

#105

On December 13 2012 23:02 kafkaesque wrote:
I've watched the video twice now and I don't see that he's hitting two women, he hits one guy (the dude who jumps over the counter) and a woman and then there's the blonde who shouts "stop" all the time.

Did he proceed hitting the blonde, too? Otherwise I don't see where the second woman is supposed to be.

The one with short hair is a girl lmao.

Bourne

United Kingdom152 Posts

December 13 2012 14:04 GMT

#106

the big white woman screaming definately ruined the video, she was really irritating. I think this guy doesn't even deserve to be fired, he got slapped, defused himself from the situation (i hope he wasnt going to get the metal pole then proceed to beat them around) they then got up in his grill, he hit them a considerable amount of times. One woman did try to get back up and he beat them back down, but you cant really see much else except justice being served cold in this video.

benston

United States39 Posts

December 13 2012 14:05 GMT

#107

2 dikes get beat with a metal pipe for thinking they are tough. seems like they got what they deserve, you wanna act like you a man take a beating like 1. where im from this shit goes on everyday. chicks that dress like dudes think that a guy wont beat them because they are still women but fuck it if you swing at me im dropping you

kafkaesque

Germany2006 Posts

December 13 2012 14:07 GMT

#108

On December 13 2012 23:04 BlitzerSC wrote:

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The one with short hair is a girl lmao.

No way in hell, look at that jaw line and bone structure. Even for a man he looks rather bruteish, regardless of the short hair.

BlitzerSC

Italy8800 Posts

December 13 2012 14:08 GMT

#109

On December 13 2012 23:07 kafkaesque wrote:

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No way in hell, look at that jaw line and bone structure. Even for a man he looks rather bruteish, regardless of the short hair.

Watch the video again, "she" is the one that is talking trash at the beginning. That seems a girl's voice to me.

kafkaesque

Germany2006 Posts

December 13 2012 14:08 GMT

#110

On December 13 2012 23:04 llSpektrll wrote:
The only problem is that he didnt finish them off. The world is a better place without retarded savages like this. Their vote counts. Mcdonalds kinda had to fire him from a pr stand point but I doubt they disagreed with his retaliation. It's really satisfying to hear that he did not have any charges pressed against him, though I assume this event will still make it tough for him to find a new job, lol. "wait...you're that guy who beat the shit out of those 2 women at the Mcdonalds, right?" "uh...yeh, that was me" "We'll make a decision by next week and, uh...let you know"

I'm pretty sure that he's going to get killed by some guys trying to whiteknight...

On second thought, whiteknighting does seem like a poor choice of words...

wurm

Philippines2296 Posts

December 13 2012 14:09 GMT

#111

haha.. Seems alright to me. They assaulted a dude, climbed over the counter to continue to assault him then get their asses handed to them. What did they expect to happen?

EDIT: Seems like he tried to diffuse the situation by going to the back. Too bad they followed him. haha.. idiots.

Spekulatius

Germany2413 Posts

December 13 2012 14:10 GMT

#112

I don't understand most of the arguments being had in this thread.

It's not a gender question. There right to self-defence exists regardless whether it's a woman attacking you or a man.
It is only relevant concerning the amount of force you're allowed to use in your defense, given that women tend to be less physically strong than men.

Equally, it's not a question of whether he could use a metal bar. Once you're being physically attacked, it's your right to stop the attack effectively. He was up against two. They jumped over the counter and showed extremely aggressive behavior. He was not limited to only use his fists.

The only real question is one we can not answer from the outside: Wasn't the attack thwarted after the first hits when the girls hit the floor? Considering they tried to stand up again, arguably the fight wasn't over. But whatever happened behind that counter and whatever mental condition the employee was while hitting them is nothing we can judge from the outside.

And in dubio pro reo, innocent until proven guilty. I think the jury did a good job.

YoucriedWolf

Sweden1456 Posts

December 13 2012 14:10 GMT

#113

That was very pleasing to watch from the other side of the world :3
I just wished he would have dished out the punishment a bit more evenly so both girls would've learned a valuable lesson instead of seriously harming one.

But I suppose they all should be punished...

I didn't watch with sound though.

lolmlg

619 Posts

December 13 2012 14:12 GMT

#114

If anyone around you is ever videotaping your behaviour just before you get attacked, it was probably your fault. Same thing as that bus driver who gave the woman an uppercut and threw her off his bus.

Cinim

Denmark866 Posts

December 13 2012 14:13 GMT

#115

All of them really should be put in jail or get some kind of punishment. They attack him, he attack them, and not just defend. This was an actual fight, and should be treated as one, and the last 5 hits or something had absoloutly nothing to do with self-defence....

Grettin

42411 Posts

December 13 2012 14:15 GMT

#116

On December 13 2012 21:51 Pulselol wrote:
uncivilized hood rats getting what they deserved.

Hate to say this, but this is what i would've said when i saw the video..

Railxp

Hong Kong1313 Posts

December 13 2012 14:17 GMT

#117

as had already been mentioned before, i wouldn't really consider that excessive force, in self defence you always want to make sure that the aggressor wouldn't be able to come back at you afterwards, plus he already took a punch and tried running away (further into the store) first, and since that didn't work they really did forced his hand. No bullshit 2v1, i'd grab whatever i could to defend myself too and make sure both of them were no longer a threat before i stopped. Plus he probably had a rough background (conjecture territory here) to have gotten out of jail and tried to stay clean, so survival instinct must have kicked in/and he would have been prone to use more force than people who've never been in a fight.

LibertyNA

13 Posts

December 13 2012 14:19 GMT

#118

Check it out, i found the weapon of mass destruction, doesn't even weigh a pound

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Talin

Montenegro10532 Posts

December 13 2012 14:19 GMT

#119

Laws should encourage restraint, not aggression. You should always be required to use the minimal force to defend yourself, and if there is any evidence that you "overdid it", you should be punished accordingly. The right to self defense shouldn't be a license to maim or kill.

IRL_Sinister

Ireland621 Posts

December 13 2012 14:20 GMT

#120

Absolutely agree with the court of law and the employee in this case. Those women were way out of order. If someone jumped over the counter at me and threatened me I would absolutely have done the same thing as this guy.