US Politics Mega-thread - Page 9908

On February 15 2018 06:07 On_Slaught wrote:
Oh btw, apparently Cohen's little stunt voided the NDA and now Stormy Daniels is "shopping her story."

I know he was trying to avoid violating the law, but damn did he blow this story up.

Also, reported that there are multiple fatalities. Saw someone in handcuffs in TV so they may have the shooter.

On February 15 2018 06:09 Logo wrote:


I saw that too; if she wants to ensure she doesn't break the NDA wrongly, what sort of process is involved? Like I'd imagine if she just blabs it out now she'd get sued by the Trump team and have to deal with that.

On February 15 2018 06:20 On_Slaught wrote:


Her lawyer said as much so they must feel they are on solid ground.

@LL but you can just pull the 80% number out of your ass? Ultimately it matters little what would have happened. Rather, would the Russians have reason to believe releasing the info would have resulted in a certain effect? If you can't even admit that it would be reasonable to think that releasing the leaks would tend to lead to more negative news and backlash against political parties, then we have nothing more to discuss.

On February 15 2018 06:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Also the White House seems to be using a school shooting to hide from the Press today.

On February 15 2018 06:24 LegalLord wrote:

Ok, so you have just conjecture and no real point beyond “it’s obvious.” Essentially that’s what I expected. Looks like we’re done then.

On February 15 2018 05:36 LegalLord wrote:

Is “seems obvious” the best you have? Because that isn’t at all enough nor is it clear that the result would have been that way. As much as anything else it’s about timing and environment. The scenario was perfect in the prelude to the Dem convention - Sanders supporters felt robbed, and it was supposed to be Hillary’s great “unity” moment. Click, boom, and it turned into a desperate farce by a mix of leaks and self-sabotage via DWS.

I can say with 80% certainty that nothing in those RNC leaks would have been remotely interesting compared to the BS that comes out of Trump’s mouth daily. All it would do is draw attention to the “hacking” aspect of it.

On February 15 2018 06:27 Jockmcplop wrote:


This isn't a court of law. People have the right to speculate on this stuff, and when you can see a clear chain of events that the most basic of deduction explains then why not go with that?

On February 15 2018 06:27 Jockmcplop wrote:


This isn't a court of law. People have the right to speculate on this stuff, and when you can see a clear chain of events that the most basic of deduction explains then why not go with that?

On February 15 2018 06:21 IyMoon wrote:


I am actually okay with this as long as they come out for a bit to give an update on it.

We can wait one day for a press brief so they can get their story together about how this is so sad but we can't do anything about it

On February 15 2018 06:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Also the White House seems to be using a school shooting to hide from the Press today.

On February 15 2018 06:27 Jockmcplop wrote:


This isn't a court of law. People have the right to speculate on this stuff, and when you can see a clear chain of events that the most basic of deduction explains then why not go with that?

On February 15 2018 06:29 Gorsameth wrote:

Because your talking to LL. A Russian shill living the US who occasionally pretends to be British.
If it involves Russia there is nothing to discuss.

On February 15 2018 06:33 LegalLord wrote:

I’m not at all sure what you’re getting at. The issue is, assuming the goal is to cause discord, would it make sense to release RNC leaks?

Why exactly is it “obvious” that it would be? There’s an argument that could be made either way. But if the only argument is, “it’s obvious!” as with On_Slaught, the reality is more akin to that there isn’t too much of a justification for why it’s the case. Just conjecture.

Which is fine - as you say, people can speculate if they like. But it also means there’s nothing further to discuss.


Your immaturity on full display is much appreciated.

On February 15 2018 06:33 LegalLord wrote:

I’m not at all sure what you’re getting at. The issue is, assuming the goal is to cause discord, would it make sense to release RNC leaks?

Why exactly is it “obvious” that it would be? There’s an argument that could be made either way. But if the only argument is, “it’s obvious!” as with On_Slaught, the reality is more akin to that there isn’t too much of a justification for why it’s the case. Just conjecture.

Which is fine - as you say, people can speculate if they like. But it also means there’s nothing further to discuss.


Your immaturity on full display is much appreciated.

On February 15 2018 06:40 On_Slaught wrote:


Because I'm bored I'll throw out one more point you can immediately dismiss. Let's say there is only a 15% chance releasing the RNC leaks accomplishes what they want. Fuck, let's make it 5%. What reason is there to hold on to it if there is any chance it helps you? If it flops who cares, just move on since, like you said, there was so much else going on. There is only upside to releasing.