EPTThe next great recession may hit hard enough to awaken some class consciousness in the United States and allow you to reign in the capitalists. But the last one didn't.
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KwarK
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The next great recession may hit hard enough to awaken some class consciousness in the United States and allow you to reign in the capitalists. But the last one didn't. | ||
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Sermokala
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You need to learn to appreciate you're still standing on solid ground as you look over the cliff. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Plansix
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On January 24 2018 10:39 Sermokala wrote: Okay? Are you liveing in fear of uprisings coming to your town and killing you and your family? Do you have such government dysfunction you can't even name whos even in control of the country? You need to learn to appreciate you're still standing on solid ground as you look over the cliff. I’ll be fine. I’m white, firmly middle class and live in the north east, which was barely touched by the last financial crisis. On January 24 2018 10:33 KwarK wrote: The $4,500 isn't the issue, you can't buy immunity that cheaply in the US. It's just that the CFPB under Trump has no interest in the financial protection of consumers. They could have gotten a license to loan shark for free. The next great recession may hit hard enough to awaken some class consciousness in the United States and allow you to reign in the capitalists. But the last one didn't. The banks that were idiots in 2007 are unchanged 10 years later. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13750 Posts
On January 24 2018 10:50 Plansix wrote: I’ll be fine. I’m white, firmly middle class and live in the north east, which was barely touched by the last financial crisis. Then don't be so cynical. Things could get bad but they've always been close to getting much worse then they could have been today. I live in Minnesota where the seas of corn and soybeans are broken by waves of tree windbreaks and rual blight. My cousins buy brand new combines every single year for the tax breaks and they live in a town of 5000 where there are more churches then stores. I know this because there are no stores in town and none of the roads are paved. TLDR: be more afraid of the growing wild boar epidemic then Trump. Pigs scare the shit out of me. | ||
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Plansix
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Also this cannons get any funnier. Does he spend his own money on anything? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On January 24 2018 11:14 Sermokala wrote: Then don't be so cynical. Things could get bad but they've always been close to getting much worse then they could have been today. I live in Minnesota where the seas of corn and soybeans are broken by waves of tree windbreaks and rual blight. My cousins buy brand new combines every single year for the tax breaks and they live in a town of 5000 where there are more churches then stores. I know this because there are no stores in town and none of the roads are paved. TLDR: be more afraid of the growing wild boar epidemic then Trump. Pigs scare the shit out of me. Last sentence is valuable advice for the duration of the Trump presidency. | ||
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mozoku
United States708 Posts
On January 24 2018 05:13 GreenHorizons wrote: From a satellite perspective I think all citizens of the US share a similar burden as our nation is built off the exploitation of others and there's not a citizen among us that doesn't benefit from that exploitation, though some much more than others. How exactly do you suppose the US "is built off the exploitation of others" and that current US citizens carry some burden for it? This should be interesting. My presumption is that this is based off of the oft-repeated but seemingly unjustifiable assertion that an employer is being "unfair" when it pays freely consenting low-wage country worker less than a high-wage country worker for the same job. | ||
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KwarK
United States41989 Posts
We lucked out, for now. But it'd be great if instead of relying upon the incompetence of the wannabe dictators we elect we could just elect people who respect the republic and constitution. Trump is a symptom that should worry you far more than wild pigs. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On January 24 2018 10:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/ObsoleteDogma/status/955973781889146880 “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way [Trump] gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok wrote in a cryptic text message to Lisa Page, an FBI lawyer and his mistress. Daily Caller I hope McCabe isn't mixed up in these text deletions from a the FBI Counterintelligence deputy assistant director. This guy's fucking done if he knew about what was going on. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Add U.S. Sen. Joni Ernst’s voice to those who believe that President Donald Trump is reassessing his position on the North American Free Trade Agreement. Although the president repeatedly has threatened to pull out of the 23-year-old trade agreement with Mexico and Canada, “I think he has doubts,” Ernst told members of the Iowa Corn Growers at their winter meeting Monday in Tama. Ernst, who was among a group of GOP senators who met with the president to discuss NAFTA before Christmas, said Trump was under the impression they wanted him to pull out of the agreement with the countries that are the United States’ and Iowa’s largest trading partners. However, when Trump polled everyone at the meeting, Ernst said only U.S. trade representative Robert Lighthizer supported withdrawing from NAFTA. None of the farm state senators in the room advised him to end the deal that has been under renegotiation for months. “He was surprised (because of) all these little birds chirping in his ear about how bad NAFTA is,” she told the corn growers association. Perhaps he heard the farm-state senators. Last week, Trump told the American Farm Bureau Federation meeting in Tennessee that he was “working very hard to get a better deal for our country and for our farmers and for our manufacturers.” Ernst, who expects to have a follow-up meeting with Trump to continue the discussion over NAFTA, said the goal is “to make sure he understands how important this is not just for the ag economy, not just for the auto industry, but this is a good thing nationwide.” NAFTA negotiators from all three countries, who have not made much progress for months, meet for another session later this month and may make progress on part of the agreement on auto manufacturing. Although negotiations are ongoing, Ernst said the sooner a new agreement is in place, the better it will be for agricultural producers. “The worry that we have is that if we’re not signaling a strong partnership with Canada and Mexico, they’re going to have Plan B and Plan C lined up to fill any gaps that are created,” she told reporters. Argentina and Brazil, for instance, would like to step in to sell commodities to Mexico, she said. “If we lose this opportunity, I’m afraid we won’t be able to re-engage with Mexico,” said Ernst, a member of the Senate Agriculture Committee. “That gap in corn will be filled by other nations. The same would be true with dairy, the auto industry. They’ll find a way to work with other partners.” Ernst also updated the corn growers on Ag Committee work on the farm bill, which she hopes will be approved this year. “One of the common themes I hear from producers is the need to be able to count on the stability that is provided by the farm bill programs, especially during a time when we see real challenges in farming and our rural communities,” Ernst said. She assured the corn producers that maintaining a “robust” crop insurance program is one of her top priorities. “I hear that all of the time when I’m out and about,” Ernst said. Source | ||
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Danglars
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Nixon is smiling. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 24 2018 11:25 KwarK wrote: Trump would absolutely love to be a fascist dictator, and his most fervent supports desperately want to live in a fascist state where the media can no longer criticize them and civil rights no longer protect their enemies. But the man clearly lacks the political acumen and the intelligence to concentrate power in his own office and, even were he to obtain that power, seems to want to use it in only petty and narcissistic ways. We lucked out, for now. But it'd be great if instead of relying upon the incompetence of the wannabe dictators we elect we could just elect people who respect the republic and constitution. Trump is a symptom that should worry you far more than wild pigs. Someone like Trump was the greatest fear of the founding fathers. They didn’t fear kings or the return of the aristocracy. They feared demagogues, populists and mobs they would insight. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On January 24 2018 10:32 Danglars wrote: The quote isn't about politics. He's just bullshitting about entertainment. I hear the late night comedy shows like talking politics these days. Jimmy Kimmel anyone? Interesting use of both "Republican lead" and "for nearly 20 years." I mean the quote from the tweet. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On January 24 2018 11:33 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/955628837253066752 Nixon is smiling. The FBI is in all likelihood predominantly Republican and all indications are that internal agitation is probably what led Comey to send the letter to Congress that, in all likelihood, was a necessary factor in Trump winning the White House. | ||
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Plansix
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On January 24 2018 11:33 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/955628837253066752 Nixon is smiling. So they can try to discredit that special counsel too? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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On January 24 2018 08:14 Plansix wrote: Source The tariff on solar panels is impressive because it seemed to make everyone unhappy all at once. No one is going to make solar panels in the US because of that tariff. on the contrary I'd think Elon would be smiling as Solar City's panels are manufactured in the US, as are their new shingles etc. no? | ||
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LegalLord
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Danglars
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On January 24 2018 11:37 Doodsmack wrote: The FBI is in all likelihood predominantly Republican and all indications are that internal agitation is probably what led Comey to send the letter to Congress that, in all likelihood, was a necessary factor in Trump winning the White House. They've been leaking out the wazoo and rebelling at this guy at the top level. It's in all likelihood opposed to the president, for his incompetency and his politics. | ||
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Danglars
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You see, I posted a second tweet and started a second thread. Give me your thoughts on the direct response to that thread, or re-read the paragraph following and comment on the thrust of that. | ||
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