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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On September 20 2017 08:55 crms wrote: Conservatives whining about progressive women not dating them is hilarious. It really turned my day around. Why do women care that I vote for people who brag about using celebrity status to grab women's genitalia? What's their problem? Hilarious. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
This is being interpreted way too much. people will say their looking for something or x is a dealbreaker in the abstract but most of the time once you actually start dating those things change especially if you find someone you like. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35121 Posts
On September 20 2017 08:25 Nevuk wrote: I will say that part of this may be because women are more likely to be liberal and men are more likely to be conservative. The one word answer to this whole thing is abortion, and probably what makes up a large part of what pushes conservative partners from tolerable to not. You'd see just as many conservative men saying they didn't want to date liberal women if a widely accepted liberal position was that at any time when sex could come into the picture they could force the man to get a vasectomy. That on top of women being able to be more selective in their partners as a fact of life... it's like stepping on a landmine and then complaining that you can't win a race. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 20 2017 09:26 GreenHorizons wrote: It's pretty common the "other way", meaning chauvinists dating submissive women. Pretty sure there's a stereo-type about white men seeking out Asian women for this specific purpose. Considering where I'm at, I suspect there's others that could speak more to that. But it makes sense that those women would be interested in dating men that would be deemed by society to be submissive. Remember, this country elected a guy who said he grabs women by the pussy. A guy accosting a group to a decision is authoritative and get things done, a girl doing that same thing is a bitch. Gotta check those micro-agressions, bro.  Society is funny like that. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On September 20 2017 10:25 Nevuk wrote: https://twitter.com/NewsHour/status/910273904005935104 https://twitter.com/MichaelRWarren/status/910288389861146629 well it's a good thing the white house has credibility when it comes to things like this | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On September 20 2017 11:51 ShoCkeyy wrote: I wonder what Flynn's has done that he requested for immunity immediately lol... I think it's probably petty crimes but he is a man of low moral fiber who would easily just betray his peers for leniency. | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
Anyway I decided to compile a short list of possible crimes these 2 could go down for. Note that none of these things are proven or necessarily criminal. Flynn 1. Conspiracy to commit kidnapping http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/25/politics/james-woolsey-mike-flynn-cnntv/index.html 2. Conspiracy to overthrow a foreign government + Show Spoiler + 3. Multiple undisclosed conversations with Russian officials before Trump took office https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/flynn-is-said-to-have-talked-to-russians-about-sanctions-before-trump-took-office.html 4. Paid by Turkey to prevent attack against ISIS http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article151149647.html Manafort 1. Spent years working for Victor Yanukovych, a known Russian puppet and possible organized crime leader and murderer https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06KIEV473_a.html 1a. Was allegedly paid $12.7mm + for this work https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-making-inquiry-ex-trump-campaign-manager-s-foreign-ties-n675881 2. Money laundering in Cyprus https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/manafort-linked-accounts-cyprus-raised-red-flag-n739156 3. Money laundering in New York, including using a Trump Tower Condo https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-aide-manafort-bought-new-york-homes-cash-n739796 | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
but yeah apparently 25k to fly from DC to Philly. seems a bit steep | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17947 Posts
On September 20 2017 07:44 Danglars wrote: Pretty clickbait title, but a thought-provoking story. The Washington Post already filed a story in protest. https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/910232790922342400 I've seen his perspective validated in my own observations as well. The media likes talking about filters on news, and here's what should be the "ultimate filter" of sorts. But read the article first if you want to really understand his logic and debate the topic. What nonsense. And it stems from the male chauvinist way the question is phrased, at least in this tweet. Looking at pro-choice vs pro-life views: a pro-life person is against even discussing whether an abortion is an option if the girl gets pregnant against their will. Whether this is the boy, or the girl who is pro-life. As a pro-choice guy who doesn't really want kids at all, I'd be careful to not date pro-life girls (or more reasonably: I am super paranoid about properly using contraceptives). So the cookie crumbles both ways. It's not girls refusing to date guys: it's people refusing to date other people, based on their different world views. Which seems entirely reasonable. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17947 Posts
On September 20 2017 08:29 Belisarius wrote: That debate seems kind of side-on to the actual issue. Dating is not the problem. Interaction in general is the problem. It makes plenty of sense for superlibs to avoid dating supercons. It's okay to look at each other at the beginning of a relationship, see features or views that are fundamentally incompatible, and decide to call it off because the differences would be too hard to work through. The problem is that there's a fine line between not dating someone because you're pretty sure you wouldn't be happy with them, and not dating someone because you view them as a monster or an idiot. It's reasonable for libs to not date cons. What's problematic is when libs won't even be friends with cons, and vice-versa. Since when do people use OkCupid or Tinder to find friends? This was some spin about how conservatives being "discriminated against" in the dating world led to them voting for Trump. Not how they can't make friends, for which I'd say [citation needed], because neither the Federalist article nor the WaPo response mention friendship anywhere. | ||
Falling
Canada11331 Posts
Since when do people use OkCupid or Tinder to find friends? There's this one guy I heard about who put something along the lines of "Just a dope dude, looking to do some dope stuff." ...but I think it was one of the regular dating sites, rather than tinder- it's foggy in my head now. But I respect that dope dude who only wanted to do some dope stuff. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Falling
Canada11331 Posts
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LegalLord
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