EPTOk, I'm straight up surprised by this strong response from Microsoft. Support is one thing, saying "don't cut my taxes until you do this" is another.
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Ok, I'm straight up surprised by this strong response from Microsoft. Support is one thing, saying "don't cut my taxes until you do this" is another. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4849 Posts
On September 06 2017 23:53 Nebuchad wrote: Highly doubt that's true. + Show Spoiler + You can look at the Flynn Effect that shows we universally score much higher on IQ tests than our ancestors, which would suggest our genes have improved drastically for no particular reason. For more specific counters you have for example the scores of Southern Italian Americans at the beginning of last century. They used to be similar to the scores of African Americans, but then in the span of very few generations the Italians improved and are now scoring similar to other white Americans, which can't really be explained genetically. For even more specific counters you have situations like the children that african american soldiers had in Germany during/after WW2. They score similar to other Germans. Those are the three that I remember off the top of my head but there are plenty of examples, some involving twins raised in different environments. You can also use logic rather than examples and consider what an IQ test considers intelligence: your capacity to do abstraction and generalization is tasked a lot. This isn't a capacity that is used at the same rate in all environments, most notably rural vs modern. From what I've seen it's extremely hard to look at the data and conclude that environmental factors don't play a major role in scores on IQ tests. It's almost like we have better nourishment and upbringing and ways to ideally unfold our genetic programs, but that's surely not the case, right? Seriously, of course intelligence is going to be bolstered by how you develop in this world. But what do you think comes first, the genome you inherited from your mother and father or the unfolding of the genetic programs based on resources and other environmental factors (like social and cognitive stimuli? Intelligence is obviously an extremely complex problem primarily based in genetics and how the genetic programs for brain structure can unfold and be maintained. This unfolding can be made easier or more difficult and needs to be maintained. This means disease, trauma, malnourishment, epigenetics, and so on and on. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13984 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:00 Plansix wrote: https://twitter.com/MorningEdition/status/905380105467387906 Ok, I'm straight up surprised by this strong response from Microsoft. Support is one thing, saying "don't cut my taxes until you do this" is another. Probably more worried about the human resources impact from dreamers more then tax code hoodoo. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12262 Posts
These claims don't really match what you're saying, and deserve us going after them. Would deserve you going after them too, actually, if you really hold the position that you present. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On September 06 2017 22:44 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The consequence should be that your congress removes him from office or at least call him out and reprimand him. He's either completely misinformed or malignantly misstating facts. Both are unacceptable and he's making policy based on it. current law does not allow impeachment for lying like that. Some change to that could perhaps by done, but it'd take a constitutional amendment. A reprimand is nice, but often fairly meaningless. And of course congress itself may lie (though not nearly as blatantly on average); the standards applied to debate in Congress aren't that high, and lots of BS and misrepresentation is allowed (though again not generally as blatant as trump's stuff). congress really doesn't police its own conduct much (even though it does have the explicit power to do so). I get the feeling that even with the power to enforce such rules, nobbody would unless there were electoral consequences for not doing so. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13984 Posts
Also didn't the memo get passed that I was bunk years ago? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
A voice of sanity from the left. I hope you were sitting down. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:07 Sermokala wrote: Probably more worried about the human resources impact from dreamers more then tax code hoodoo. I also think we are hitting the breaking point with the business community and the Republican Party’s base. The overwhelming majority of Americans support DACA, with the exception of self identifying republicans. | ||
KwarK
United States42961 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:14 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/905176738191298560 A voice of sanity from the left. I hope you were sitting down. The ideal has always been a legislative fix. That's why Obama asked Congress to do one before passing a stopgap measure. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:16 KwarK wrote: The ideal has always been a legislative fix. That's why Obama asked Congress to do one before passing a stopgap measure. Kwark, it is only her. Just her, no one else has ever made that statement. She is the voice of reason in the left and we must accept this. Also you need to accept that you are the left too. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21787 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:14 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/JonahNRO/status/905176738191298560 A voice of sanity from the left. I hope you were sitting down. That requires Congress to do something, which they don't. Which is why there is a shaky solution in the first place. Because Congress did not do their job, As usual. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
I privately hope Trump uses this logic to refuse to enforce tax law on top earners because they're taxed too much. I mean, it would be ideal if Congress changes the tax law, but that requires Congress to do something, which is why we need this shaky solution in the first place. Trump would then truly be Obama's successor. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21787 Posts
So to pass something for the DACA would mean asking (begging) the Democrats for help, which I don't see happening. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:14 Sermokala wrote: Wouldn't the people who belive intelligence is genetic be for racial equality and supporting the concept of white privilege? If you truly belive intelegence is primarily genetic then logically you belive that black people have the same chance for greater intellectual impact in society but that it's being supressed by the current society. That you regognize that white privilege is aceptance on how society has and is repressing those genetics the same as your genetics only beacuse of the color of their skin. Also didn't the memo get passed that I was bunk years ago? Depends upon which people you're talking about. White supremacists certainly don't take that approach. | ||
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KwarK
United States42961 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:20 Nevuk wrote: It'd be a good thing if congress passed some sort of legislation about immigration, specifically the DACA. I kind of doubt they will as it would require spines and the ability to not shrivel into dust at the first hint of criticism from anyone. Basically, they've shirked responsibility for the issue (and for that matter, almost all issues) for at least two decades, not sure they'll stop just because Trump asks them to. Ah, but you see Trump is playing chicken with them because he makes the best deals. He'll break DACA and then pin it on Congress and shout "you better fix this cause who do you think the American people will blame if you don't?" And then when asked what he'd do if they didn't fix it and he lost the game of chicken he explained that he'd fix it himself. Truly the best negotiator. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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KwarK
United States42961 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:23 Danglars wrote: I mean the ideal is Congress does it, but you know if they don't and you don't like that, you've got this extra-constitutional end run where you write the laws yourself and blame Congress. I privately hope Trump uses this logic to refuse to enforce tax law on top earners because they're taxed too much. I mean, it would be ideal if Congress changes the tax law, but that requires Congress to do something, which is why we need this shaky solution in the first place. Trump would then truly be Obama's successor. Children brought to the US against their will as minors who know no home but this country. Billionaires who have to pay capital gains at 20%. Two equally deserving groups. | ||
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brian
United States9625 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:23 Danglars wrote: I mean the ideal is Congress does it, but you know if they don't and you don't like that, you've got this extra-constitutional end run where you write the laws yourself and blame Congress. I privately hope Trump uses this logic to refuse to enforce tax law on top earners because they're taxed too much. I mean, it would be ideal if Congress changes the tax law, but that requires Congress to do something, which is why we need this shaky solution in the first place. Trump would then truly be Obama's successor. so do you prefer if we have an inept congress that's incapable of passing legislation that real people instead suffer? or that we reinstate DACA until such time that we have acceptable legislation? and i mean joke or not, likening the issue to rich peoples greed is just bad. disheartening, even in this political landscape. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On September 07 2017 00:27 KwarK wrote: Children brought to the US against their will as minors who know no home but this country. Billionaires who have to pay capital gains at 20%. Two equally deserving groups. And the law in your mind says that if the group is deserving, we can ignore the law. Interesting legal strategy, Kwark, let's see if you can get enough Supreme Court justices to follow along. | ||
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