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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 14:35:34
August 25 2017 14:29 GMT
#170961
On August 25 2017 23:23 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 22:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


As opposed to one of those innocuous disasters.


So i wasn't the only one thinking that this was a dumb headline. A natural disaster is always significant, that's what disaster kinda implies.

edit: nvm, didn't see dates
On track to MA1950A.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
August 25 2017 14:35 GMT
#170962
On August 25 2017 23:00 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 22:48 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/901067781713436672

This is going to be both good and bad to watch. Depending on the response, we could be seeing the end.

The Trump hysteria is so comical I'm wondering if you're talking the end of Trump as president or the end of Texas.

"His response was so bad to this hurricane that we consulted lawyers and they said it was 'basically high crimes and misdemeanors, just go for it bro.'"

Hysteria? Stop.

I left it open for a reason. While I have no love for trump, I also have no love for Te-has except for a very few people who live there. Either could go and I'll be fine.

And also, for reference, see Bush v Katrina. If trump handles this as bad as that, then...choose your own ending.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 14:38:24
August 25 2017 14:36 GMT
#170963
And also, for reference, see Bush v Katrina


Wasn't that where Top Gear UK went a year or so after, just to see everything literally in rubble still?

edit: yeah, New Orleans, and almost two years after.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
August 25 2017 14:38 GMT
#170964
No clue. But the operation to get relief there was bungled hardcore.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 25 2017 14:40 GMT
#170965
On August 25 2017 23:14 Plansix wrote:
Did they forget to update their own website?

NOAA isn't FEMA, i think only office of director is an appointment
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 14:42:34
August 25 2017 14:42 GMT
#170966
@Zero

Well won't link the episode here, it's in the internet to find and watch. Season 9 Episode 3 is the one, where they go cross country in the US in cheap cars, with the intention to sell them at their destination, which was New Orleans roughly 1.5 years after the hurricane hit. I feel like they were genuinely shocked of what it looked like there at that time, that long after a disaster. In the end they actually didn't try to sell the cars, but just gave them away.

I remember that episode because i was shocked too. To this day i don't understand really how you can/could just ignore part of your country (city, blocks, whatever) in rubble after a natural disaster.
On track to MA1950A.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42668 Posts
August 25 2017 14:44 GMT
#170967
On August 25 2017 23:42 m4ini wrote:
I remember that episode because i was shocked too. To this day i don't understand really how you can/could just ignore part of your country (city, blocks, whatever) in rubble after a natural disaster.

Two step process
1) Paint rubble black
2) "I'm so not racist I don't even see colour"
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 25 2017 14:46 GMT
#170968
On August 25 2017 23:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:00 Danglars wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:48 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/901067781713436672

This is going to be both good and bad to watch. Depending on the response, we could be seeing the end.

The Trump hysteria is so comical I'm wondering if you're talking the end of Trump as president or the end of Texas.

"His response was so bad to this hurricane that we consulted lawyers and they said it was 'basically high crimes and misdemeanors, just go for it bro.'"

Hysteria? Stop.

I left it open for a reason. While I have no love for trump, I also have no love for Te-has except for a very few people who live there. Either could go and I'll be fine.

And also, for reference, see Bush v Katrina. If trump handles this as bad as that, then...choose your own ending.

I'm no closer to getting an answer. Unless you're walking back when you said "the end" for Trump by making an explicit comparison to Bush, who finished the term in regular fashion.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
August 25 2017 14:46 GMT
#170969
Yesterday someone posted a link to the FEMA website where their head was named.
passive quaranstream fan
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 14:47:46
August 25 2017 14:46 GMT
#170970
I could show you a neighborhood in St Louis or Chicago that looks just as bad as New Orleans and it was never hit by a natural disaster. These kinds of places are just ignored altogether.

Coincidentally, these also have a good minority population. I think the 9th ward and other poverty stricken areas should just wait for gentrification. That's their best hope because the city won't fix them.
On August 25 2017 23:46 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:00 Danglars wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:48 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/901067781713436672

This is going to be both good and bad to watch. Depending on the response, we could be seeing the end.

The Trump hysteria is so comical I'm wondering if you're talking the end of Trump as president or the end of Texas.

"His response was so bad to this hurricane that we consulted lawyers and they said it was 'basically high crimes and misdemeanors, just go for it bro.'"

Hysteria? Stop.

I left it open for a reason. While I have no love for trump, I also have no love for Te-has except for a very few people who live there. Either could go and I'll be fine.

And also, for reference, see Bush v Katrina. If trump handles this as bad as that, then...choose your own ending.

I'm no closer to getting an answer. Unless you're walking back when you said "the end" for Trump by making an explicit comparison to Bush, who finished the term in regular fashion.

You didn't ask a question.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 14:51:29
August 25 2017 14:47 GMT
#170971
On August 25 2017 23:44 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:42 m4ini wrote:
I remember that episode because i was shocked too. To this day i don't understand really how you can/could just ignore part of your country (city, blocks, whatever) in rubble after a natural disaster.

Two step process
1) Paint rubble black
2) "I'm so not racist I don't even see colour"


Lol, i guess that'd work.

Really though, there's no excuse or justification. Especially not after seeing how japan removed most of the evidence of a tsunami that killed almost 20.000 people in around half a year.

edit: @Zero, pm
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9618 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 14:50:14
August 25 2017 14:47 GMT
#170972
On August 25 2017 23:46 Artisreal wrote:
Yesterday someone posted a link to the FEMA website where their head was named.

that's because they have one. Danglers just spouting alternative facts and blaming the dems. Trump-in-Training.

sorry, spouting not shouting.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42668 Posts
August 25 2017 14:48 GMT
#170973
Danglars, you do know that Trump is protected by his own party and that impeachment is a political process, not a legal one, right?

Because it feels a lot like you're attempting to argue that all that could result from a cocked up natural disaster is unpopularity without realizing that unpopularity is what will get him, if anything does.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 14:54:01
August 25 2017 14:53 GMT
#170974
On August 25 2017 23:29 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:23 mikedebo wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/901067781713436672


As opposed to one of those innocuous disasters.


So i wasn't the only one thinking that this was a dumb headline. A natural disaster is always significant, that's what disaster kinda implies.

edit: nvm, didn't see dates


While I'm usually not on board with most cries of "hysteria!", I think that the effects of constantly pushing the giant red EXTREME button in public discourse are starting to show themselves in interesting ways like the distortion of how we use language.

Like, I'm pretty sure that the author of that headline felt the need to put 'very significant' there because 'disaster' on its own would not be enough to garner attention -- even if it was subconsciously.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 25 2017 14:59 GMT
#170975
Remember that news agencies also double down on the risk of storms because people don't take them seriously.
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-25 15:04:45
August 25 2017 15:00 GMT
#170976
On August 25 2017 23:53 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:29 m4ini wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:23 mikedebo wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/901067781713436672


As opposed to one of those innocuous disasters.


So i wasn't the only one thinking that this was a dumb headline. A natural disaster is always significant, that's what disaster kinda implies.

edit: nvm, didn't see dates


While I'm usually not on board with most cries of "hysteria!", I think that the effects of constantly pushing the giant red EXTREME button in public discourse are starting to show themselves in interesting ways like the distortion of how we use language.

Like, I'm pretty sure that the author of that headline felt the need to put 'very significant' there because 'disaster' on its own would not be enough to garner attention -- even if it was subconsciously.


Yeah, but it begs the question as to what would be assumed an insignificant disaster. It's like saying that someone has very terminal cancer. Or the other way around, "only a little bit terminal cancer".

It's nitpicky, but i don't understand where that's supposed to lead. If that is a significant disaster, what was the japanese tsunami?

edit: btw not downplaying hurricanes, all natural disasters are inherently scaring the shit out of me, because kinda unstoppable.
On track to MA1950A.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8983 Posts
August 25 2017 15:03 GMT
#170977
On August 26 2017 00:00 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:53 mikedebo wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:29 m4ini wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:23 mikedebo wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/901067781713436672


As opposed to one of those innocuous disasters.


So i wasn't the only one thinking that this was a dumb headline. A natural disaster is always significant, that's what disaster kinda implies.

edit: nvm, didn't see dates


While I'm usually not on board with most cries of "hysteria!", I think that the effects of constantly pushing the giant red EXTREME button in public discourse are starting to show themselves in interesting ways like the distortion of how we use language.

Like, I'm pretty sure that the author of that headline felt the need to put 'very significant' there because 'disaster' on its own would not be enough to garner attention -- even if it was subconsciously.


Yeah, but it begs the question as to what would be assumed an insignificant disaster. It's like saying that someone has very terminal cancer. Or the other way around, "only a little bit terminal cancer".

It's nitpicky, but i don't understand where that's supposed to lead. If that is a significant disaster, what was the japanese tsunami?

A series of unfortunate events. Or Gojira's awakening. I'm leaning towards the latter.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
August 25 2017 15:05 GMT
#170978
On August 26 2017 00:03 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 00:00 m4ini wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:53 mikedebo wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:29 m4ini wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:23 mikedebo wrote:
On August 25 2017 22:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/901067781713436672


As opposed to one of those innocuous disasters.


So i wasn't the only one thinking that this was a dumb headline. A natural disaster is always significant, that's what disaster kinda implies.

edit: nvm, didn't see dates


While I'm usually not on board with most cries of "hysteria!", I think that the effects of constantly pushing the giant red EXTREME button in public discourse are starting to show themselves in interesting ways like the distortion of how we use language.

Like, I'm pretty sure that the author of that headline felt the need to put 'very significant' there because 'disaster' on its own would not be enough to garner attention -- even if it was subconsciously.


Yeah, but it begs the question as to what would be assumed an insignificant disaster. It's like saying that someone has very terminal cancer. Or the other way around, "only a little bit terminal cancer".

It's nitpicky, but i don't understand where that's supposed to lead. If that is a significant disaster, what was the japanese tsunami?

A series of unfortunate events. Or Gojira's awakening. I'm leaning towards the latter.


Guess a hurricane would be Mothra then.
On track to MA1950A.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 25 2017 15:10 GMT
#170979
On August 25 2017 23:47 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:46 Artisreal wrote:
Yesterday someone posted a link to the FEMA website where their head was named.

that's because they have one. Danglers just spouting alternative facts and blaming the dems. Trump-in-Training.

sorry, spouting not shouting.

Gah I didn't see the date on CNN story. It was delayed for months, but eventually went through. My bad guys.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9618 Posts
August 25 2017 15:13 GMT
#170980
word you can't say things like that if you want to be leader of the free world man
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