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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On June 22 2017 14:00 Nyxisto wrote: don't forget that the great mind of his invented the brilliant phrase 'priming the pump'... also why is Trump holding a rally? so he won't have to try to actually do any policy work? | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On June 22 2017 14:00 Nyxisto wrote: don't forget that the great mind of his invented the brilliant phrase 'priming the pump'... also why is Trump holding a rally? His formal campaign for 2020 has already kicked off. Lets him say any ill-advised tweet or speech is just campaigning that no one should hold him accountable for. Pretty handy that way! On June 22 2017 09:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: They must have found the tapes right next to the proof of Obama's forged birth certificate and Trump's healthcare bill that provided coverage for all Americans. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On June 22 2017 13:29 NewSunshine wrote: It's probably how he built the Panama Canal. He made a deal with France. Best deal ever. Got us a bunch of land. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23826 Posts
On June 22 2017 09:52 Buckyman wrote: My point is, don't blame the Democrats for all 20 million. We know that the ACA (Obamacare) had always expected to leave 20,000,000+ uninsured at least through 2020 with no plan to change that significantly? Legislation which was passed with only Democrat votes. Where it was Democrats who killed the public option (let alone single payer). Why would you blame Republicans for that? | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On June 22 2017 14:00 Nyxisto wrote: don't forget that the great mind of his invented the brilliant phrase 'priming the pump'... also why is Trump holding a rally? Because he can bypass the bullshit filter of the media and stroke his ego. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On June 22 2017 17:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/877689450184101889 I saw that quote, opened up the link to watch, and man the whole sequence is just sickening. You don't need billions to understand the economy, and having billions doesn't mean you're qualified for economic management. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11795 Posts
On June 22 2017 20:17 Amui wrote: I saw that quote, opened up the link to watch, and man the whole sequence is just sickening. You don't need billions to understand the economy, and having billions doesn't mean you're qualified for economic management. The problem is simply that too many people don't have the skillset of being born to a rich father and inheriting shitloads of money. I more people bothered to do that, the economy would be way better off. And they could also stop leeching off welfare, pay more taxes, and thus fix the budget. But those lazy bums just can't be bothered to do that and instead work 2-3 jobs at minimal wage. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
McDonald's shares hit an all-time high on Tuesday as Wall Street expects sales to increase from new digital ordering kiosks that will replace cashiers in 2,500 restaurants. Cowen raised its rating on McDonald's shares to outperform from market perform because of the technology upgrades, which are slated for the fast-food chain's restaurants this year. McDonald's shares rallied 26 percent this year through Monday compared to the S&P 500's 10 percent return. Andrew Charles from Cowen cited plans for the restaurant chain to roll out mobile ordering across 14,000 U.S. locations by the end of 2017. The technology upgrades, part of what McDonald's calls "Experience of the Future," includes digital ordering kiosks that will be offered in 2,500 restaurants by the end of the year and table delivery. "MCD is cultivating a digital platform through mobile ordering and Experience of the Future (EOTF), an in-store technological overhaul most conspicuous through kiosk ordering and table delivery," Charles wrote in a note to clients Tuesday. "Our analysis suggests efforts should bear fruit in 2018 with a combined 130 bps [basis points] contribution to U.S. comps [comparable sales]." He raised his 2018 U.S. same store sales growth estimate for the fast-food chain to 3 percent from 2 percent. The analyst raised his price target for McDonald's to $180 from $142, representing 17.5 percent upside from Monday's close. He also raised his 2018 earnings-per-share forecast to $6.87 from $6.71 versus the Wall Street consensus of $6.83. "MCD has done a great job launching popular innovations within the context of simplifying the menu, while introducing more effective value initiatives that have recently begun to improve the brand's value perceptions," he wrote. Source | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
I also don't see what is "dark" about the future where people don't have to waste away their lives by doing things that can be automated. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Anyways, it is a good thing but the transition is just going to be painful. On a different topic, congress is still the most powerful branch of the government. They seem to have forgotten that though. All the handwringing comments from senators about sessions implementing another war on drugs for instance, they can just change the law so marijuana isnt a class 1 drug, or better, just fucking legalize it. There's other things they've complained about on similar lines that has led me to believe that they really have forgotten they're allowed to pass laws. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On June 22 2017 22:02 Plansix wrote: We don’t have the robust social services and safety nets EU nations do. So it is eliminating low skill jobs in areas of the US where there might not be much of an economy to begin with. And the local, state and federal governments have not been interested finding ways to replace those jobs for a while. The super market I go to just added more self serve registers and got rid of most of their cashier registers. Seriously. It's bad enough that little is getting done for the coal miners/towns to help them move on, and that's such a small industry. Wide spread automation in the fast food sector is going to cause crime to rise. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Honestly, automated kiosks are a fantastic idea. So are all the new online ordering schemes most places have. We just have to find a use for the grunts that used to do those jobs. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On June 22 2017 06:43 Danglars wrote: Trump opponent or Trump apologist is one of the more sickening dichotomies in this forum. I'm daily sickened by his behavior, and he ran in the lower half of acceptable Republican candidates for president, but I felt forced to vote for him because his policies more closely aligned with mine than his opponent in the general. Some posters here go overboard with comparing qualified defenses of his acts (at a maybe 1:10 ratio of things I agree with and things I disagree with) to an inability to see straight on his issues. If you refuse to see nuance on the right-of-center, you're teaching people to be callous to your appeals to reason ... since you do not approach with reason. I think Igne meant this as a criticism, but I don't: it seems like you mostly only decide to post when you're defending Trump in some regard. That's fine, you can post of not post whenever you want, you don't owe us anything - but it does make it hard for me to tell what your actual objections to Trump are. It seems like they're usually exact opposite of most of us - mad he hasn't repealed Obamacare yet, mad the wall seems like it won't happen anytime soon, mad tax reform isn't anywhere close to happening. If you don't mind my asking, how much of the stuff liberals are outraged at is stuff you'd defend? The travel ban? The AHCA (both its policies, and the process they're using to try to pass it)? The large number of vacancies in the executive branch? The anti-NATO and anti-NAFTA talk? The renewed war on drugs? Seems to me we hardly ever have actual policy discussions in here, as evidenced by the fact I've read a ton of your posts but can only guess how you feel about most of those. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
On June 22 2017 21:57 opisska wrote: So the automatic kiosks are a novelty in the US? Because EU McDs have them for years. It's actually the main reason I ever even go to a McD, because it's just so convenient. I really wish all fast foods did that, I don't really need an impatient high-school dropout to look angrily at me because I don't eat this shit every day so I have no idea what's on the offer ... I also don't see what is "dark" about the future where people don't have to waste away their lives by doing things that can be automated. The darkness comes less from the loss of the shit jobs and more from our nation's political unwillingness to do anything about said loss. Even most Democrats have their heads buried in the sand on this one. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On June 22 2017 22:08 LegalLord wrote: Most supermarkets I go to these days have way more cash registers than they ever use - probably because the self serve registers eat up the lion's share of the traffic. Honestly, automated kiosks are a fantastic idea. So are all the new online ordering schemes most places have. We just have to find a use for the grunts that used to do those jobs. I hate automatic kiosks in CA, maybe I'll write a blog explaining at some point | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On June 22 2017 22:10 ChristianS wrote: I hate automatic kiosks in CA, maybe I'll write a blog explaining at some point Not nearly as bad as how greedy Californians are with shopping bags. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11795 Posts
On June 22 2017 22:05 Gahlo wrote: Seriously. It's bad enough that little is getting done for the coal miners/towns to help them move on, and that's such a small industry. Wide spread automation in the fast food sector is going to cause crime to rise. But it is quite obviously a waste to have a person do a job that a cheaper machine can also do. We just need to figure out a good way to distribute the added productivity to more people than just the McD shareholders, and give the people who now don't have to man a cash register something more useful to do. In my opinion, automatisation should be a net positive, we just need to make sure that it is not a large positive for some people and a negative to others. Instead, we need to figure out a way to make it a small positive to everyone. With automatisation, there is now more stuff then before. Distribution is the problem. And that is not easy to figure out, but it is something that we will eventually need to figure out. Low skilled jobs are easy to automate and they are not going to come back, because it makes no sense to have people doing them. | ||
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