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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 14 2017 15:55 GMT
#146801


So far, govt claims 36 ISIS fighters dead, 0 civilian casualties
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45247 Posts
April 14 2017 15:55 GMT
#146802
On April 15 2017 00:36 KwarK wrote:
Modern textbooks are a bit of a joke, in case anyone hasn't been to college in the last few years. The textbook company lobbies the department to use its textbooks, the department says "all professors must now teach using McGraw-Hill Connect online learning tools", the students all have to pay $200 for an online e-text edition textbook because it allows them to do the homework and the homework is a mess of "you entered $0, this is wrong, the correct answer is to leave it blank" and "we see you got that question wrong, here is the right answer, would you like to try it again and improve your score". Then their marketing material has the audacity to claim that when courses teach using their online learning tools they do better. No shit, it's not possible to not get 100% when you get unlimited attempts at a question and whenever you get it wrong they give you the right answer.

I would fucking love to have an actual textbook. But I'd love to have bought it 5th hand or borrowed it from the university library or something like that and that's not how it works anymore. Most people no longer have an actual textbook to reference. And they don't need to reference it because their assessment consists of one giant conflict of interest as the online learning company has no interest in ever failing any student.


Definitely agree. The private high school I work at actually recognizes the need for a good textbook, so it's a lot easier for me to switch textbooks (specifically, to something I want and that will benefit the students the most) than in public high schools or in colleges. It's a great benefit.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43537 Posts
April 14 2017 15:59 GMT
#146803
On April 15 2017 00:55 Danglars wrote:
https://youtu.be/2fclx6MirA4

So far, govt claims 36 ISIS fighters dead, 0 civilian casualties

While I certainly approve of dead fighters and living civilians it's important to note that the definition for civilians excludes any men older than 14 or so. These numbers are deliberately massaged to produce low civilian counts. Also, for balance, Obama used to do the same.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 14 2017 16:00 GMT
#146804
There's nothing about anything that universities do that seems like obvious waste. And yet they have a persistent excess in costs that make schooling far more expensive than we want, and significantly more expensive than in other countries. Certainly, it's true that there is no "easy" solution here. But it would be rather fair an assessment to say that for the sake of being to effectively maintain a college system, we would do well to systematically reduce expenditures in universities that are not necessary to the tasks of research and education. Those who say that the one-liners don't properly address the problem in depth are correct, even if the one-liners are in fact quite useful at highlighting problems.

One thought I had is that part of the problem is that a "university level" is simply not what most students need. A university is very much an academically-focused environment, whereas students are overwhelmingly strictly practical in their educational needs. And universities are rather clunky on logistics, compared perhaps to the community college system which services people far more efficiently (through a combination of online coursework, multiple campuses, practica, other factors that are suitable for a practically minded education but not for academics). My idea would be that perhaps the latter should be expanded, whereas universities should be scaled down into a far more narrow, generally academic, enterprise. Qualification creep, of course, is a very real problem and where a lot of the issues come from.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 14 2017 16:05 GMT
#146805
WASHINGTON ― In a spate of local elections last week in Illinois, Democrats picked up seats in places they’ve never won before.

The city of Kankakee elected its first African-American, Democratic mayor. West Deerfield Township will be led entirely by Democrats for the first time. Elgin Township voted for “a complete changeover,” flipping to an all-Democratic board. Normal Township elected Democratic supervisors and trustees to run its board ― the first time in more than 100 years that a single Democrat has held a seat.

“We had a pretty good day,” said Dan Kovats, executive director of the Illinois Democratic County Chairmen’s Association. “We won in areas we normally would win, but we also won in areas Republicans never expected us to be competitive in. They were caught flat-footed.”

These may seem like relatively small victories ― we’re talking about municipal races in towns with tens of thousands of people ― but they fit with a broader pattern that should have Republicans on edge ahead of the 2018 elections: Progressive grassroots activism, exploding with energy since President Donald Trump’s win in November, is fueling Democratic gains in GOP strongholds.

This week, a Democratic congressional candidate in Kansas nearly pulled off a shocking win in a heavily Republican district. In Georgia, 30-year-old Democratic newcomer Jon Ossoff is outpacing his GOP rivals in a race to replace former Rep. Tom Price. The seat has long been Republican and was once held by former Speaker Newt Gingrich. These races come after a Democratic state Senate candidate in Delaware, buoyed by anti-Trump activism, annihilated her GOP challenger in an election that’s traditionally been close.

In the case of Illinois, a number of Democrats who just won got a boost from a program launched by Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-Ill.) called Build The Bench. It’s an all-day boot camp that offers nuts-and-bolts details for running a successful campaign. Bustos came up with the idea last year when she noticed a dearth of new Democratic candidates for Congress, and decided the best way to help build up her party’s ranks was at the local level.

She’s held two boot camps in her district so far ― The Huffington Post attended one of them in March ― and she’s already seeing tremendous payoff. Twelve Build The Bench alumni ran for local seats in this election cycle, and eight of them won. A ninth alum, Rita Ali, is currently down by one vote in her race for Peoria City Council.

“I am incredibly proud that the majority of our graduates who were on the ballot in April municipal elections won their races,” said Bustos. “If we want to be successful in the heartland, we need to connect Democratic candidates for office at all levels with the best practices, skills and expertise needed to run winning campaigns.”

Chemberly Cummings and Arlene Hosea are among the Build The Bench alumni who recently won races. They both made history by becoming the first black members of Normal Town Council and Normal Township Trustee, respectively. That is no small feat in a predominately white, Republican region of the state.

“There’s this concept in Bloomington-Normal that everybody is conservative,” said Cummings, a 34-year-old State Farm employee. “But we are a group of people who are actually concerned about the issues in our community. I also think ... when you have the representative of a party who is negative, I think you’ll start to see some things change. Nobody wants to be associated with something negative. They want to be associated with the positive.”

Hosea, a 57-year-old former Illinois State University employee, came out of retirement to run for her seat. She hadn’t planned on going into politics, but was deeply affected by Trump’s divisive tone all last year.

“I am a descendent of slavery,” she said. “I saw and heard on the campaign trail so much awful rhetoric. My mom is still alive, she’s 90, and she faced racism through all of her childhood. I thought, ‘Arlene, you have to do more. You have to be the change that you want to see.’”

As someone born and raised in the area, Hosea said she takes pride in being able to give back to her town’s next generation. She got choked up thinking about how far she and her family have come, recalling how her mom lived through Jim Crow in the South and once watched the Ku Klux Klan drag her uncle out of the house and “almost beat him to death” in front of her when she was a child.

“Even if it’s just my seat at the table, they get to see me at that table. I have a voice,” Hosea said, her voice cracking. “In this community, no one has done it. So, it’s time.”

Of course, not everyone can win their first campaign. Jodie Slothower, a Build The Bench attendee who HuffPost met in March, lost her race for Normal Township clerk. She is disappointed, of course, but she’s already onto her next project: fueling the progressive momentum to oust more Republicans, like Rep. Rodney Davis (Ill.). She started a grassroots mobilization group in November, Voices of Reason, and it’s up to 2,000 members.

“We have events planned all the way through August,” Slothower said. “We’re going to keep up the pressure on the congressman. We’re figuring out how to take what we’ve learned here and bring it to other communities. We have a lot of work to do.”


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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 14 2017 16:10 GMT
#146806
I just hope the Democrats wise up and don't try to use their momentum to sneak a Hillary Clinton or equivalent past us.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45247 Posts
April 14 2017 16:19 GMT
#146807
On April 15 2017 01:10 LegalLord wrote:
I just hope the Democrats wise up and don't try to use their momentum to sneak a Hillary Clinton or equivalent past us.


You mean for the next presidential election? I hope that the Democrats field someone who's more liberal and less establishment than Hillary, although I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats end up using the argument of "See? Trump is what you get when you try non-establishment, so you should vote for this establishment candidate X!"
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 14 2017 16:24 GMT
#146808
On April 15 2017 01:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2017 01:10 LegalLord wrote:
I just hope the Democrats wise up and don't try to use their momentum to sneak a Hillary Clinton or equivalent past us.


You mean for the next presidential election? I hope that the Democrats field someone who's more liberal and less establishment than Hillary, although I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats end up using the argument of "See? Trump is what you get when you try non-establishment, so you should vote for this establishment candidate X!"

For the next presidential election is of course where the primary concern lies. But I have to say that I am quite unhappy with them at a legislative level. Reid was ineffectual and Schumer is honestly probably worse. DWS sucked and they took their support for her to the grave. And then they chose Perez when the voters they really needed are highly invested in Ellison.

The overarching problem, it seems, is that Democrats don't really seem to "get it." I give Hillary a lot of deserved flak because she is pretty much the personification of the out-of-touch politician of yesteryear, but the truth is that most establishment Democrats are like her. And I don't see much desire for change, yet, on their part. They just want to demonize the Trump-Putin-Comey alliance for as long as it gets them their relevance back.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 14 2017 16:34 GMT
#146809
Since Ted Kennedy died, there has been a lack of unified leadership in the democratic party. I get the dislike of the “establishment”, but I think there is also a lack of unified vision in the party in general that has nothing to do with entrenched members. The party has a lot of masters with sweeping national ambitions that run counter to the specific state’s economics. They try too hard to please everyone and keep them in the party, so they just please no buddy. While the Republicans have the opposite issue, their far right social conservatives just say they will never leave and the Republicans have to deal with them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
April 14 2017 17:26 GMT
#146810
On April 15 2017 01:00 LegalLord wrote:
There's nothing about anything that universities do that seems like obvious waste. And yet they have a persistent excess in costs that make schooling far more expensive than we want, and significantly more expensive than in other countries. Certainly, it's true that there is no "easy" solution here. But it would be rather fair an assessment to say that for the sake of being to effectively maintain a college system, we would do well to systematically reduce expenditures in universities that are not necessary to the tasks of research and education. Those who say that the one-liners don't properly address the problem in depth are correct, even if the one-liners are in fact quite useful at highlighting problems.

One thought I had is that part of the problem is that a "university level" is simply not what most students need. A university is very much an academically-focused environment, whereas students are overwhelmingly strictly practical in their educational needs. And universities are rather clunky on logistics, compared perhaps to the community college system which services people far more efficiently (through a combination of online coursework, multiple campuses, practica, other factors that are suitable for a practically minded education but not for academics). My idea would be that perhaps the latter should be expanded, whereas universities should be scaled down into a far more narrow, generally academic, enterprise. Qualification creep, of course, is a very real problem and where a lot of the issues come from.


universities are largely a class filter engaging a feed back loop of toxic credentialism and providing a substrate for profit extraction for capital. its very difficult to disentangle the virtuous "educational" dimension from the other largely autonomous and self-aggrandizing structures
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 14 2017 17:29 GMT
#146811
President Donald Trump's White House will not release its visitor logs, a senior administration official said Friday, breaking with President Barack Obama and raising concerns about transparency.

The decision to withhold the records marks a drastic change from the Obama administration, which posted the visitor logs online. The senior official said the administration debated whether to release the records for several months.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 14 2017 17:31 GMT
#146812
Well that makes the FOIA lawsuit simpler.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9025 Posts
April 14 2017 19:44 GMT
#146813
Several months? He's been in office for less than 3. What's the definition for several?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-14 20:08:18
April 14 2017 20:02 GMT
#146814
On April 15 2017 02:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
President Donald Trump's White House will not release its visitor logs, a senior administration official said Friday, breaking with President Barack Obama and raising concerns about transparency.

The decision to withhold the records marks a drastic change from the Obama administration, which posted the visitor logs online. The senior official said the administration debated whether to release the records for several months.


Source











Donald Trump is not credible.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
April 14 2017 20:04 GMT
#146815
On April 15 2017 04:44 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Several months? He's been in office for less than 3. What's the definition for several?

I think 3 could qualify for several, it's at the low end, but permissible. did a quick google, yeah, 3 is enough to qualify for several.

they also could've been discussing it before they came into office; I mean once the transition starts some of this stuff probably gets raised, and I could easily imagine nov-jan having some discussions on the topic.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9025 Posts
April 14 2017 22:27 GMT
#146816
I'll allow it. But this whole thing, coupled with Doodsmack's post, show just how backwards and hypocritical this administration is. At least Obama tried to be transparent and straightforward with the people. trump is a snake-oil salesman of the highest caliber. I'm impressed.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 14 2017 23:04 GMT
#146817
On April 15 2017 07:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I'll allow it. But this whole thing, coupled with Doodsmack's post, show just how backwards and hypocritical this administration is. At least Obama tried to be transparent and straightforward with the people. trump is a snake-oil salesman of the highest caliber. I'm impressed.

Well, to the extent people believe he tried to be transparent, even that he tried to be straightforward, is debatable and subjective. It really does matter where you are on the political spectrum that rate his failings significant or insignificant, due to external factors or internal factors, perception or reality. I'm in danger of biting off more than I'm prepared to argue at length here, but I'll want to give a good hard look back after their first years and see what transparency matters.

All I can see is propensity to tell full fabrications, which will remain in Trump's court.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10842 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-14 23:26:43
April 14 2017 23:25 GMT
#146818
Danglars... over the last ~20+ pages, have you said anything more than "my guy is doing it so its ok"?
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4887 Posts
April 14 2017 23:31 GMT
#146819
On April 15 2017 07:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I'll allow it. But this whole thing, coupled with Doodsmack's post, show just how backwards and hypocritical this administration is. At least Obama tried to be transparent and straightforward with the people. trump is a snake-oil salesman of the highest caliber. I'm impressed.


What;s fun about this the "why." Obama claimed some form of executive privilege to withhold the names of anyone who went to the WH as he wished-- he was within his right to do so (and the Courts said as much). Instead Trump is just scrapping it all together, not even attempting to maintain the appearance of transparency. Why?

Fun times.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 14 2017 23:53 GMT
#146820
On April 15 2017 08:25 Velr wrote:
Danglars... over the last ~20+ pages, have you said anything more than "my guy is doing it so its ok"?

I have. News on the bomb drop, on the type of bomb, current events, government, and healthcare. Have you read any of them?
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